"How old do you think the Earth is?" Marco Rubio: "I'm not a scientist, man."

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Yreka

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Assault on the 'next guy' starting already eh ? JHC, the voting machines aren't even cold yet.
 

MooseNSquirrel

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As usual I agree. While it may not be directly related to a politicians duties, failing to acquire a basic grasp of where we are in scientific terms is hardly wise, and more disturbingly Roubini seems to have an attitude of a willfully ignorant person. If major scientific findings are dismissed as irrelevant or inconsequential, what else does he choose to be ignorant of?

Seems a damned foolish mindset.

THank-you!

People don't realize the damage caused to science in this country by having a scientifically illiterate know nothing be elected for 2 terms.

We really can't afford another Bush.
 

Aikouka

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I agree with him on how his views on science don't apply to some aspects of the government, and as long as he doesn't attempt to codify any religious beliefs into law, I couldn't care less what he thinks in regard to the Earth's creation. I cringed a little when he said that people should be free to teach what they want as I really do not want to see Creationism taught in public schools outside of a religion class, but then he goes into talking about parents. The latter is a non-issue.
 

buckshot24

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THank-you!

People don't realize the damage caused to science in this country by having a scientifically illiterate know nothing be elected for 2 terms.

We really can't afford another Bush.
Do you have any specifics or are you just talking shit?

Maybe they don't realize it because you're full of shit?
 

buckshot24

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I agree with him on how his views on science don't apply to some aspects of the government, and as long as he doesn't attempt to codify any religious beliefs into law, I couldn't care less what he thinks in regard to the Earth's creation. I cringed a little when he said that people should be free to teach what they want as I really do not want to see Creationism taught in public schools outside of a religion class, but then he goes into talking about parents. The latter is a non-issue.
Right, science should be science. Creationism is not science.

But seriously, does anybody really think that a president could make it mandatory to teach creation in all schools even if he wanted to?
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Is this the new rape gotcha? What he believes about this isn't relevant to his job.

LOL. Several Republican politicians don't merely stick their own feet in their respective maws, but rather swallow the damn things whole with their idiotic comments about rape, and somehow it's a "gotcha"?

That's fuckin' rich. What is it like to live without integrity?
 

Cerpin Taxt

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"it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States"

Speaking as an evolutionary biologist, I agree with him that the age of the earth has little immediate/direct relevance to the economy of the US. That said, fluency in basic scientific thinking, like scientific methods, data generation and analysis, etc. are absolutely very important to the economy of the US. Rubio might be interested to know that the calculations that give us estimates of the earth's age are extremely similar to many financial calculations. Then again, he might not be - he doesn't strike me as a curious person.

But a bird will never turn into a giraffe! Birds are still birds! And flood geology! And Piltdown man was a hoax! And Haeckel's embryos! And uniformitarian assumptions! Naturalistic presuppositions!

Therefore evolution is false.
 

buckshot24

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LOL. Several Republican politicians don't merely stick their own feet in their respective maws, but rather swallow the damn things whole with their idiotic comments about rape, and somehow it's a "gotcha"?

That's fuckin' rich. What is it like to live without integrity?
Call it a trap question then.
 

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Is this the new rape gotcha? What he believes about this isn't relevant to his job.

Rape gotcha? It's amazing you still post here after this most recent election, given the intellectual and verbal beat down you took. He'll I'm surprised you still can muster the courage to access the Internet after that drubbing.

Rape gotcha? To each his own I guess, lol.
 

JEDIYoda

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It's really unfortunate that Mr. Rubio couldn't gather the courage to risk offending the evangelical wing of the Republican Party by answering this with, "About 4 billion years old, obviously."
whats funny is you slam Rubio for being honest.......
Who is to say exactly or even approximately how old the earth is??
Not even the Bible says how old the earth is.....what it says is how long it took God (if you believe in God) to create the earth......I see no mention of the age of the earth...do you>?????
 

HomerJS

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Call it a trap question then.

Do you believe blacks are mentally inferior?

Hey man I'm not in the business of measuring IQs.

Some trap question!!



If Rubio were honest he would just unequivically say if he is going to legislate his religious beliefs? Did you guys not learn fron Nov 6?
 

JTsyo

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Well God created everthing in 6 days , Now the last thing he created was man. All this in six days . Now it really doesn't say How long a god day is to man . But God does asign man to one day. That 1 day is what we call 1,000 years. But thats Man day. God does not asign a day to creation as measured. Thats what they say according to Moses. Befor the flood and creation itself those stories are older than the hebrew text.It is written in stone and clay tablets . The eden story the flood all of it. Moses had access to all the knowledge that was kept . Even Amon/ Amun /Amen Ra. A mono Egyptian God who also was 3 differant gods. A concept later adopted by christians threw Rome. Hebrew and Roman(Greek) mythology can be traced directly back to Egyptian .
I don't know how old it is. Its what ever the authorities say . I don't think God really measures time. Man does. Time was meant for man. The beast is driven by nature

Why would it take God 6 days though? That's some laziness right there. All he had to do was say a few words. If you count up all the words that was said by God in Genesis, you would have to wonder why he felt the need to rest on the 7th day.
 

techs

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Here's the answer I would vote for:

My faith tells me the Universe was created in 6 days and I believe it.
Science tells me that the Universe is billions of years old and I believe that too. I make all my political decisions based on science. However, I reserve the right to believe in my faith.

I keep both separate but I won't try and tell you what to do.
 

actuarial

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It's really unfortunate that Mr. Rubio couldn't gather the courage to risk offending the evangelical wing of the Republican Party by answering this with, "About 4 billion years old, obviously."

I am in no way religious, and would not have answered the question "About 4 billion years old, obviously" because I didn't know that was the answer. I knew the answer was in the billions, but how many billions has exactly zero impact on my life, so it hasn't stuck in my memory (this post will serve to stick it there now though, as that is how my brain works).

I half agree with the rest of what he says, though he does give too much credence to things that have obviously been disproved. I agree with him that parents should be able to teach their kids whatever matches their faith, but the 'teaching' of non-scientific theories should end there. I also don't consider it the great mystery that he does either.

But he's right that as long as he isn't out there shouting 'the earth was created in seven days' or advocating for teaching creationism in schools it has little impact on his job.
 

nehalem256

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So if a Republican Governor doesn't know the age of the earth. Or pretends not to, to avoid alienating his religious base. And this belief has exactly zero to do with any policy. Bad.

If the Democratic President believes in a nationwide conspiracy to pay men more than women for the same work(despite also believing that companies only care about profits), and bases his first action in office on this belief. Good.

 

Ryan

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What good is knowing how old the earth is?


Yeah - what good is knowing basic 3rd grade scientific knowledge to someone on the Congressional Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation?



If Rubio needs to brush up on the basic history of earth, all he needs to do is stroll down to the Smithsonian - The Natural History Museum is literally visible form the front steps of Congress. He won't even have to pay admission, it's free.
 

jackschmittusa

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I believe that any politician that cannot publicly state that evolution is a fact and that the universe is billions of years old is unqualified to serve and make law and policy.

Willful ignorance is a dangerous state of mind. How could you trust any such person to acknowledge facts and make rational decisions about anything?

If you don't live in a reality based world, I wouldn't trust you to do my laundry, let alone make national law and policy.
 

kage69

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I am completely unimpressed with Rubio.

What 9/11 is to that moron Giuliani, "both sides do it/are the same" is to Rubio.

Much ado about nothing, hopefully his lame ass can be kept in Florida.
 

HomerJS

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Here's the answer I would vote for:

My faith tells me the Universe was created in 6 days and I believe it.
Science tells me that the Universe is billions of years old and I believe that too. I make all my political decisions based on science. However, I reserve the right to believe in my faith.

I keep both separate but I won't try and tell you what to do.

How dare you try to introduce common sense
 

Atreus21

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seems obvious to me that he's not dumb but doesn't want to offend extremists Christians.

the overwhelmingly vast majority of Christians do not believe that the world was literally created in 7 days, but a politician's gotta do what a politician's gotta do.

Stop it. Being reasonable. Just stop it.
 

GoPackGo

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I think the Earth could be much older than anyone here thinks. Especially if the Science Channels show on The Big Bang / Earth is made from Dead Stars theory is true. Our whole civilization is what? 10000 years old? We are just a blip on the timeline at this point.
 
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