I often wondered if the term "The Big bang theory" implied that God was having a giant orgy up there.....
Dude, it wasn't a chili contest; bringing the Universe and everything in it into existence is all about endurance! Plus he wasn't just saying words, think about the distance at which he had to shout them because he's not part of our Universe.
You're looking at it wrong. God simply is not a part of the universe. The idea is that the universe and everything that is in it and all that has ever happened or will happen is like a book. God can see all the pages at once while not being contained within the "book" or something like that.
If God began to exist then you may have a point.
Darnit!"The universe" generally denotes the totality of things that exist. There are no things that exist that are not members of this set. If it is your contention that something exists which is not in the universe, it is your burden to demonstrate that your idea is coherent and meaningful.
Good luck with that.
I wasn't presenting any argument here.Please present your evidence that the universe began to exist.
No I didn't. Did you understand what I wrote, at all?Darnit!
You used a definition to prove that God doesn't exist!
Seems like you couldn't care less about reading comprehension, either.Look, believe what you want I couldn't care less.
I wasn't presenting any argument here.
We as in me and you. I'm done.
lolYeah I figured you were all out of arguments. That happens when facts do not bear out your position.
"The universe" generally denotes the totality of things that exist. There are no things that exist that are not members of this set. If it is your contention that something exists which is not in the universe, it is your burden to demonstrate that your idea is coherent and meaningful.
Good luck with that.
I often wondered if the term "The Big bang theory" implied that God was having a giant orgy up there.....
I am agnostic, but how do you feel about the multiverse theory? That theory says that there could be more out there than this universe. What is in that universe? Could universes be born from other universes in some way? From something else?
I believe that long after I am dead some physics theories and cosmological facts will be changed. There is a lot of unknown in the physics world and observable universe.
If there is no problem, what use were your comments?lol
I didn't make one argument and you said you didn't make any either so whats the problem?
Have a happy thanksgiving.
Wow, what a prick. Ok since you shit on my well-wish. How about you stick that turkey up your ass?Thanksgiving is capitalized.
Wow, what a prick. Ok since you shit on my well-wish. How about you stick that turkey up your ass?
Wow, what a prick. Ok since you shit on my well-wish. How about you stick that turkey up your ass?
I wished you a happy thanksgiving and you corrected my capitalization in return. That was a prick move pure and simple.There's those true colors shining through! Don't worry, you're surprising exactly nobody.
I wished you a happy thanksgiving and you corrected my capitalization in return. That was a prick move pure and simple.
If the existence of a watch implies a watchmaker then the existence of a god implies a godmaker.
Which law is that?The answer to this one (at least) is very easy. The law of causality requires a one-directional movement in time.
Incoherent. Without time creation cannot happen.The Bible teaches that God CREATED all matter, space, and time, so there is no violation of cause and affect before the Universe began at the Big Bang. No beginning required because without time, there's no such thing as a beginning.
I've never heard the gradual day-lengthening theory before, but I can tell you right now exactly why it's a very disprovable theory: We can see almost every stage of the universe' existence through telescopes and there is NEVER any record that the laws of physics have changed. It'd make red-shift detection of universal expansion pretty unreliable.
The Genesis account fits perfectly with the scientifically-accepted model of today, that being everything came from a near-infinitely dense and hot singularity around 14 billion years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality_(physics)Which law is that?
It's kinda funny, you just answered your first question with your secondIncoherent. Without time creation cannot happen.
It doesn't state that 7 24 hour periods actually equals billions of years. The Hebrew word 'yom' has 4 different meanings, one of which is 'an indefinite period of time'. We see 'day' instead of 'era' in english translations of Genesis because there was no reason to think otherwise until relatively recent discoveries in science.Where does Genesis indicate that 7 days amount to billions of years?
I don't find this alleged law of causality in that page. I did find a description of non-causal phenomena, however. That shouldn't be if there is a "law" against it, right? Please, educate me how that can be.
That's not what the big bang model describes.It's kinda funny, you just answered your first question with your second
Think about this for a minute, I feel like this is just your opinion because the big bang model states that all matter, space and time came from a single point, before which there was no matter, space and time.
No, I will agree that the universe is.I think we can all agree that the universe 'happened'
So where are those revisions in the text?It doesn't state that 7 24 hour periods actually equals billions of years. The Hebrew word 'yom' has 4 different meanings, one of which is 'an indefinite period of time'. We see 'day' instead of 'era' in english translations of Genesis because there was no reason to think otherwise until relatively recent discoveries in science.