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Fausto

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Nov 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: Fausto


Well....let's see. Roughly a dozen persons (myself included) have asked you questions. You have failed to answer them other than the aburd responses I mentioned. So now I'm just wanting to know what you're really on about here. Surely one so devout as yourself could easily dismiss the inquiries of us "god-haters" right? So start answering some questions or just shut it.

And calling science and religion the same kind of belief is just ridiculous. At one point, the earth was believed flat because we just didn't know better. Later, we orbited the earth in space....we're pretty sure it's round now. Science moves forward and corrects itself as it goes. Religion just rehashes the same things and thinks up new ways to "disprove" the latest science. People like you missed your true calling as criminal defense lawyers.

So let me get this straight: my beliefs are not valid because they are based on the Bible? Guess I'd better change my beliefs so they're more palatable for you Pagans then

"surely one so devout..." Oldest line in the Pagan handbook. I'm not G-d, how can I possibly have the answer for everything? Anyone who claims he can is a much bigger fool than I.
If they're so valid, start backing them up and answer a few questions. You can't hide behind "God said so, therefore it is so." bullshit forever. Me sitting back and saying "Gaia said so, therefore it is so." is essentially the same thing and just as pointless.

 

Flyermax2k3

Diamond Member
Mar 1, 2003
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Originally posted by: stnicralisk
Doesnt the Bible have a guy survive in a whale stomache for days?

Flyer I would suggest you dont take everything in the book literally.

Ever hear of a miracle? The idea behind a miracle is that the unexpected (indeed, impossible) occurs.
 

Flyermax2k3

Diamond Member
Mar 1, 2003
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: Skoorb
my beliefs are mine and mine alone. They are based on the Bible.
Again I'll remind people not to use Flyermax as an example of the average follower of God.

I'll remind you the same thing myself. The "average" follower of G-d doesn't follow G-d at all. The Bible even says so.
Who is this Gid that you follow?

Someone who isn't a sarcastic ass
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: conjur


We know you don't have the answer for everything.

We just want to see your proof for your answer to ONE thing! Something that proves what the Bible says is true. You just believe in one single book and totally dismiss all of science. That's not religious or even fundamental, it's fanatical.

If I had proof that the Bible was true, do you think I'd be posting on ATOT? Do you think anyone here would be posting if the Bible were proven to be true?

Come on...you're evading the question.

Give us ONE bit of proof debunked carbon dating. Come on...just one!
 

Flyermax2k3

Diamond Member
Mar 1, 2003
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Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: Fausto


Well....let's see. Roughly a dozen persons (myself included) have asked you questions. You have failed to answer them other than the aburd responses I mentioned. So now I'm just wanting to know what you're really on about here. Surely one so devout as yourself could easily dismiss the inquiries of us "god-haters" right? So start answering some questions or just shut it.

And calling science and religion the same kind of belief is just ridiculous. At one point, the earth was believed flat because we just didn't know better. Later, we orbited the earth in space....we're pretty sure it's round now. Science moves forward and corrects itself as it goes. Religion just rehashes the same things and thinks up new ways to "disprove" the latest science. People like you missed your true calling as criminal defense lawyers.

So let me get this straight: my beliefs are not valid because they are based on the Bible? Guess I'd better change my beliefs so they're more palatable for you Pagans then

"surely one so devout..." Oldest line in the Pagan handbook. I'm not G-d, how can I possibly have the answer for everything? Anyone who claims he can is a much bigger fool than I.
If they're so valid, start backing them up and answer a few questions. You can't hide behind "God said so, therefore it is so." bullshit forever. Me sitting back and saying "Gaia said so, therefore it is so." is essentially the same thing and just as pointless.

Once again, how can I prove something that I was not a witness to, nor do I have the tools to "scientifically" prove it so? The only thing I have to rely on is the word of G-d, and my own experience. I suppose next you'll be asking for "pics"
 

stnicralisk

Golden Member
Jan 18, 2004
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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: stnicralisk
Doesnt the Bible have a guy survive in a whale stomache for days?

Flyer I would suggest you dont take everything in the book literally.

Ever hear of a miracle? The idea behind a miracle is that the unexpected (indeed, impossible) occurs.

And this shows that no matter what - even if God himself said so Flyer wouldnt budge.

I would say a miracle is that a book that tells you things like Thou shalt not lie and Thou shalt not kill but then even God does the opposite of both still manages to hold you so fast.

You are a hilarious fanatic.
 

Flyermax2k3

Diamond Member
Mar 1, 2003
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: conjur


We know you don't have the answer for everything.

We just want to see your proof for your answer to ONE thing! Something that proves what the Bible says is true. You just believe in one single book and totally dismiss all of science. That's not religious or even fundamental, it's fanatical.

If I had proof that the Bible was true, do you think I'd be posting on ATOT? Do you think anyone here would be posting if the Bible were proven to be true?

Come on...you're evading the question.

Give us ONE bit of proof debunked carbon dating. Come on...just one!

HA! For me to prove anything to you people I would have to have a Master's Degree, and a PHD as well as "pics". Nothing I say will convince a single person here otherwise. Have any of you been able to convince me of anything?
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: Fausto

If they're so valid, start backing them up and answer a few questions. You can't hide behind "God said so, therefore it is so." bullshit forever. Me sitting back and saying "Gaia said so, therefore it is so." is essentially the same thing and just as pointless.

Once again, how can I prove something that I was not a witness to, nor do I have the tools to "scientifically" prove it so? The only thing I have to rely on is the word of G-d, and my own experience. I suppose next you'll be asking for "pics"

You can provide links to the proof of creation "scientists". They seem to be inline with your way of thinking.
Or give some other proof.

Something other than "The Bible tells me so."
 

Flyermax2k3

Diamond Member
Mar 1, 2003
3,204
0
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Originally posted by: stnicralisk
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: stnicralisk
Doesnt the Bible have a guy survive in a whale stomache for days?

Flyer I would suggest you dont take everything in the book literally.

Ever hear of a miracle? The idea behind a miracle is that the unexpected (indeed, impossible) occurs.

And this shows that no matter what - even if God himself said so Flyer wouldnt budge.

I would say a miracle is that a book that tells you things like Thou shalt not lie and Thou shalt not kill but then even God does the opposite of both still manages to hold you so fast.

You are a hilarious fanatic.

Interesting theory... Precisely where in the Bible does G-d go against His word?
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: conjur


Come on...you're evading the question.

Give us ONE bit of proof debunked carbon dating. Come on...just one!

HA! For me to prove anything to you people I would have to have a Master's Degree, and a PHD as well as "pics". Nothing I say will convince a single person here otherwise. Have any of you been able to convince me of anything?

WTF?

Did I go out and carbon date a tree? No, I provided a link...a few links, actually.

Let's see your arsenal. Come on...whip it out!
 

Fausto

Elite Member
Nov 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: Fausto


Well....let's see. Roughly a dozen persons (myself included) have asked you questions. You have failed to answer them other than the aburd responses I mentioned. So now I'm just wanting to know what you're really on about here. Surely one so devout as yourself could easily dismiss the inquiries of us "god-haters" right? So start answering some questions or just shut it.

And calling science and religion the same kind of belief is just ridiculous. At one point, the earth was believed flat because we just didn't know better. Later, we orbited the earth in space....we're pretty sure it's round now. Science moves forward and corrects itself as it goes. Religion just rehashes the same things and thinks up new ways to "disprove" the latest science. People like you missed your true calling as criminal defense lawyers.

So let me get this straight: my beliefs are not valid because they are based on the Bible? Guess I'd better change my beliefs so they're more palatable for you Pagans then

"surely one so devout..." Oldest line in the Pagan handbook. I'm not G-d, how can I possibly have the answer for everything? Anyone who claims he can is a much bigger fool than I.
If they're so valid, start backing them up and answer a few questions. You can't hide behind "God said so, therefore it is so." bullshit forever. Me sitting back and saying "Gaia said so, therefore it is so." is essentially the same thing and just as pointless.

Once again, how can I prove something that I was not a witness to, nor do I have the tools to "scientifically" prove it so? The only thing I have to rely on is the word of G-d, and my own experience. I suppose next you'll be asking for "pics"
Well, surely there are passages in the bible....something in the volumes and volumes of works by theologians over thousands of years.....that you could reference.

Admit it. You don't know what you're talking about. I've met plenty of people who can at least intelligently discuss the blurring of religion and science and you're not even trying.
 

Flyermax2k3

Diamond Member
Mar 1, 2003
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: Fausto

If they're so valid, start backing them up and answer a few questions. You can't hide behind "God said so, therefore it is so." bullshit forever. Me sitting back and saying "Gaia said so, therefore it is so." is essentially the same thing and just as pointless.

Once again, how can I prove something that I was not a witness to, nor do I have the tools to "scientifically" prove it so? The only thing I have to rely on is the word of G-d, and my own experience. I suppose next you'll be asking for "pics"

You can provide links to the proof of creation "scientists". They seem to be inline with your way of thinking.
Or give some other proof.

Something other than "The Bible tells me so."

Here's the problem with that: my beliefs may "seem to be inline with theirs" but are mine and not theirs. I'd rather not use another man's beliefs or work as a crutch.
 

stnicralisk

Golden Member
Jan 18, 2004
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: stnicralisk
Doesnt the Bible have a guy survive in a whale stomache for days?

Flyer I would suggest you dont take everything in the book literally.

You might like to read this.

http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/1991/PSCF12-91Davis.html

Articles in the Yarmouth Independent from 13 June 1891 and 20 June 1891

For all I know that is the "Star" of 1891

However my point was not exacted upon the whale it was one of many outrageous claims that i decided to cite- although I still do not believe it.

 

Fausto

Elite Member
Nov 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: Fausto

If they're so valid, start backing them up and answer a few questions. You can't hide behind "God said so, therefore it is so." bullshit forever. Me sitting back and saying "Gaia said so, therefore it is so." is essentially the same thing and just as pointless.

Once again, how can I prove something that I was not a witness to, nor do I have the tools to "scientifically" prove it so? The only thing I have to rely on is the word of G-d, and my own experience. I suppose next you'll be asking for "pics"

You can provide links to the proof of creation "scientists". They seem to be inline with your way of thinking.
Or give some other proof.

Something other than "The Bible tells me so."

Here's the problem with that: my beliefs may "seem to be inline with theirs" but are mine and not theirs. I'd rather not use another man's beliefs or work as a crutch.
Well, that pretty much takes the bible out of the equation then, doesn't it?

You are truly the master of the cop-out.

 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: Fausto

If they're so valid, start backing them up and answer a few questions. You can't hide behind "God said so, therefore it is so." bullshit forever. Me sitting back and saying "Gaia said so, therefore it is so." is essentially the same thing and just as pointless.

Once again, how can I prove something that I was not a witness to, nor do I have the tools to "scientifically" prove it so? The only thing I have to rely on is the word of G-d, and my own experience. I suppose next you'll be asking for "pics"

You can provide links to the proof of creation "scientists". They seem to be inline with your way of thinking.
Or give some other proof.

Something other than "The Bible tells me so."

Here's the problem with that: my beliefs may "seem to be inline with theirs" but are mine and not theirs. I'd rather not use another man's beliefs or work as a crutch.


Another troll cop-out.
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Precisely where in the Bible does G-d go against His word?
I think it's the section just after He says that you're not supposed to name him.
Which is immediately followed by the passage, "Then God laughed and said, 'HAHA! Tricked you beotch! Aw...don't pout at me. Oh come on Jonah, let's go over to the women's washing well and I'll grant you x-ray vision for a little while. We coo'? Oh, that x-ray thing...forget I ever said that word. In fact, you've already forgotten. BAM! Damn it's good to be a gangta.'"
 
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