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Rifter

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But it would require me to go out and buy older hardware. Nintendo being Nintendo they don't discount their hardware either. Why would I go out and pay $300 for a dead system when they should be bringing their catalog forward?

It can't be much work...they are porting Twilight Princess to nVidia Sheild afterall

You can score a used 3ds for under $100, i have purchase 2 of them used. I agree nintendo could sure come down with their old hardware prices though. If they dont on the switch in a couple years ill have to look for one of them used too.
 

zerocool84

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I bet the Virtual Console is going to be a subscription service that'll be introduced with the paid online service, and hence the delay. That's the only thing that makes any sense for a console starved of games put out by a company with such a great back catalog.
They've already said that's how it's going to be, bundled with their online service that you pay for. I just hope they get on it soon.
 

SteveGrabowski

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They've already said that's how it's going to be, bundled with their online service that you pay for. I just hope they get on it soon.

Sucks, I'll probably just buy a New 3DS XL then and wait for the 2019 games I'm really looking forward to before buying the Switch. I want the Switch screen for SNES but I don't rent games.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
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Yes but in reality if you really want full-featured home console you should buy PlayStation because Switch isn't good enough

This is true and really it comes down to the different games associated with the brand and the online play the console does. I think Nintendo's reliance on a phone app is an absolute joke and I'll never pay for their service ever. Virtual Console does not interest me when I've played all the games before or already have them on one of my various emulators. The lack of Netflix etc on the switch is another sticking point for some who may want a more well rounded device as well. For me though it's just a matter of looking at the games and deciding whether they are good enough.
 

Rifter

Lifer
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This is true and really it comes down to the different games associated with the brand and the online play the console does. I think Nintendo's reliance on a phone app is an absolute joke and I'll never pay for their service ever. Virtual Console does not interest me when I've played all the games before or already have them on one of my various emulators. The lack of Netflix etc on the switch is another sticking point for some who may want a more well rounded device as well. For me though it's just a matter of looking at the games and deciding whether they are good enough.

no apps for switch? no netflix, spotify, youtube etc????? If true thats pretty short sighted, PS, XB has had this functionality for a decade.

Hell my Wii has netflix app nintendo is moving backwards here with functionality....
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
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no apps for switch? no netflix, spotify, youtube etc????? If true thats pretty short sighted, PS, XB has had this functionality for a decade.

Hell my Wii has netflix app nintendo is moving backwards here with functionality....

Yeah there's threads on other forums wondering what is going on there. Not sure if it's coming or not either.
 

JeffMD

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Yes but in reality if you really want full-featured home console you should buy PlayStation because Switch isn't good enough

Thats right because the PS3, Xbox 360, and all the game systems before it were not full featured home consoles.
 

JeffMD

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no apps for switch? no netflix, spotify, youtube etc????? If true thats pretty short sighted, PS, XB has had this functionality for a decade.

Hell my Wii has netflix app nintendo is moving backwards here with functionality....

Your Wii did not even have an hdmi port. I was able to get netflix, spotify, youtube, and alll those fun apps well before the switch came out... why do I need them on my switch now?
 

purbeast0

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LOL @ saying Netflix, Spotify, and YouTube apps make a gaming console ... a gaming console.

That is some astounding logic.
 
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zerocool84

Lifer
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LOL @ saying Netflix, Spotify, and YouTube apps make a gaming console ... a gaming console.

That is some astounding logic.
Microsoft originally thought that was the case, unfortunately for them, the public doesn't think that way.
 

JeffMD

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Microsoft originally thought that was the case, unfortunately for them, the public doesn't think that way.

Never ONCE did it ever come up "You know what would make the xbox better then the PS? ... Netflix! "

I have streaming boxes... they have more apps then I know what to do with. Anything streaming they put on my console would be totally ignored.
 

HitAnyKey

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I bet the Virtual Console is going to be a subscription service that'll be introduced with the paid online service, and hence the delay. That's the only thing that makes any sense for a console starved of games put out by a company with such a great back catalog.

I wonder if the licensing of the games is one of the problems. The moment you put the games online to play for anyone around the world, you are dealing with Geographic property rights.
Probably a huge licensing headache. More than likely they need to restrict it by Country so they can have multiple vendors. Then it will probably explode.

I do miss the days when Cartridges were King. Good old days are long gone. Nowadays there are so many knockoffs that it will probably start scaring away the quality game developers.
 

zerocool84

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I wonder if the licensing of the games is one of the problems. The moment you put the games online to play for anyone around the world, you are dealing with Geographic property rights.
Probably a huge licensing headache. More than likely they need to restrict it by Country so they can have multiple vendors. Then it will probably explode.

I do miss the days when Cartridges were King. Good old days are long gone. Nowadays there are so many knockoffs that it will probably start scaring away the quality game developers.

Every online console buying shop is split into regions already when you sign up so that's not the issue.
 

Rifter

Lifer
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Your Wii did not even have an hdmi port. I was able to get netflix, spotify, youtube, and alll those fun apps well before the switch came out... why do I need them on my switch now?

Im aware, it had component connection, for 720p. Which woked fine for netflix untill i replaced it with a PS3 for that purpose.
 

CZroe

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thanks for the link shorty. The hardware in this thing is seriously under powered for the price. I guess there is a reason i only buy nintendo handhelds nowadays not the home versions.
Good thing it is a handheld then, eh?

Did you miss that somehow?
 

zerocool84

Lifer
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Good thing it is a handheld then, eh?

Did you miss that somehow?
It's a home console first not a handheld per Nintendo. As much as we would like to believe the opposite. It doesn't matter though as it's a hit and people love it.
 

CZroe

Lifer
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It's a home console first not a handheld per Nintendo. As much as we would like to believe the opposite. It doesn't matter though as it's a hit and people love it.
Do you think that they are following up the 2DS/3DS with another strictly-portable successor [that isn’t a Switch variant]?

I don’t. If the Switch replaces their dedicated handheld then it doesn’t matter if it’s primarily a home console based on his logic.

The New 2DS XL is basically this generation’s Game Boy Micro. It’ll soon be over for the DS line and the Switch is their only successor. No doubt, they will make revisions to the Switch to improve/cater to portability as the years go by, just like the DS lite, GBA SP, and GB Pocket before.

2004 DS replaces GBA SP
2005 GB Micro launches (only plays GBA games)
2006 DS lite launches

Early 2017 Switch replaces DS line
Mid 2017 New 2DS XL launches
2018+ More portable Switch with better battery life
 
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Sonikku

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Do you think that they are following up the 2DS/3DS with another strictly-portable successor?

I don’t. If the Switch replaces their dedicated handheld then it doesn’t matter if it’s primarily a home console based on his logic.

The New 2DS XL is basically this generation’s Game Boy Micro. It’ll soon be over for the DS line and the Switch is their only successor. No doubt, they will make revisions to the Switch to improve/cater to portability as the years go by, just like the DS lite, GBA SP, and GB Pocket before.

2004 DS replaces GBA SP
2005 GB Micro launches (only plays GBA games)
2006 DS lite launches

Early 2017 Switch replaces DS line
Mid 2017 New 2DS XL launches
2018+ More portable Switch with better battery life
Agreed with everything bro. I wonder though if Nintendo might release a Switch in 2020 or something that vaguely resembles the clam shell design of the DS once the parts are smaller and cheaper. Perhaps in the same vain as the PSP go where the control stick/buttons pop out of it. The only issue I see with the Switch replacing the 3DS is that the Switch is not nearly as portable, having to be toted around in a bag where as the 3DS could fit in one's pocket. Though the discomfort that came with upgrading to an XL made that prospect more challenging.
 

CZroe

Lifer
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Agreed with everything bro. I wonder though if Nintendo might release a Switch in 2020 or something that vaguely resembles the clam shell design of the DS once the parts are smaller and cheaper. Perhaps in the same vain as the PSP go where the control stick/buttons pop out of it. The only issue I see with the Switch replacing the 3DS is that the Switch is not nearly as portable, having to be toted around in a bag where as the 3DS could fit in one's pocket. Though the discomfort that came with upgrading to an XL made that prospect more challenging.
Very possible (likely even), but I think they have ceded pocket space to smartphones for now. The transition to games programmed for asynchronous performance between portable and docked mode should also make it easier to introduce hardware based on newer, more powerful/efficient ARM SOCs. They’ll be able to take advantage of the latest performance and power characteristics without needing to revise and continue producing an obsolete chip. It didn’t use the most modern SOC to begin with, so that means a pocket-sized version with improved battery life is definitely possible VERY soon!

They’re also going up against iPads, smart TVs, and AppleTV type devices with the seamless transition being the Switch’s greatest strength. To only consider/compare it as a dedicated console like PS4/XBOX1 is way off the mark. It’s a console-class handheld that can do double-duty and there’s no good reason not to consider it Nintendo’s next handheld if you are into those, even if it’s a little awkward in the first iteration.

Throughout history, many portables have had awkward first iterations. Heck, the naming between Game Boy and Game Boy Pocket seems to admit that Game Boy was too big for that. There were also two major iterations of Atari Lynx, SNK Neogeo Pocket Color, Nokia nGage (including the “taco,” LOL!), DS, DSi, 3DS, 3DS XL, 2DS, and PS Vita. PSP had FOUR major iterations! If he likes Nintendo’s handhelds but not their consoles, history shows that he’s definitely got reason to keep an eye on the Switch.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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Do you think that they are following up the 2DS/3DS with another strictly-portable successor [that isn’t a Switch variant]?

I don’t. If the Switch replaces their dedicated handheld then it doesn’t matter if it’s primarily a home console based on his logic.

The New 2DS XL is basically this generation’s Game Boy Micro. It’ll soon be over for the DS line and the Switch is their only successor. No doubt, they will make revisions to the Switch to improve/cater to portability as the years go by, just like the DS lite, GBA SP, and GB Pocket before.

2004 DS replaces GBA SP
2005 GB Micro launches (only plays GBA games)
2006 DS lite launches

Early 2017 Switch replaces DS line
Mid 2017 New 2DS XL launches
2018+ More portable Switch with better battery life

I wish they'd release a Switch with no screen for $200 to be used strictly as a home console. Something like a Playstation TV except with actual support from the company.
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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I wish they'd release a Switch with no screen for $200 to be used strictly as a home console. Something like a Playstation TV except with actual support from the company.
Me too. I hate wearing the battery because I want to keep it original. It stays docked for me.
 

JeffMD

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You guys asking for non portable versions are missing why the system is selling so well.
 

SteveGrabowski

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You guys asking for non portable versions are missing why the system is selling so well.

The system sold well because of BOTW. No one would have cared at all about the Switch if it wasn't for that game. And something like 30% of Switch buyers got it exclusively to be a home console. My brother and his wife use their Switch that way. Now that I have a New 3DS for SNES and NES games it's probably how I will use my Switch when I get it. Just because you might enjoy it more as a handheld doesn't invalidate others' use cases. Whether or not they'd make more money making a cheaper home console version is an open question, but there would definitely be a market for it.
 

Rifter

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Do you think that they are following up the 2DS/3DS with another strictly-portable successor [that isn’t a Switch variant]?

I don’t. If the Switch replaces their dedicated handheld then it doesn’t matter if it’s primarily a home console based on his logic.

The New 2DS XL is basically this generation’s Game Boy Micro. It’ll soon be over for the DS line and the Switch is their only successor. No doubt, they will make revisions to the Switch to improve/cater to portability as the years go by, just like the DS lite, GBA SP, and GB Pocket before.

2004 DS replaces GBA SP
2005 GB Micro launches (only plays GBA games)
2006 DS lite launches

Early 2017 Switch replaces DS line
Mid 2017 New 2DS XL launches
2018+ More portable Switch with better battery life

If Nintendo is going to replace the 3DS with the switch they would likely not have marketed it as a home console first, they would have marketed it as a mobile console first and saved themselves the headache of having it compared to the XB/PS. To do otherwise would be pretty stupid.

I think Nintendo will release another mobile only console to replace the 3ds or the switch would be being marketed as mobile console from the get go.

I mean its either that or have no mobile console in the lineup as they themselves consider the switch a home console first and its mobile aspect to nintendo is secondary.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
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If Nintendo is going to replace the 3DS with the switch they would likely not have marketed it as a home console first, they would have marketed it as a mobile console first and saved themselves the headache of having it compared to the XB/PS. To do otherwise would be pretty stupid.

I think Nintendo will release another mobile only console to replace the 3ds or the switch would be being marketed as mobile console from the get go.

I mean its either that or have no mobile console in the lineup as they themselves consider the switch a home console first and its mobile aspect to nintendo is secondary.

Sometimes I think even Nintendo themselves doesn't know what they want to do.
 
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