How to burn a CD with a capacity of 791MB?

mikeymikec

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I have a pretty old game CD, and considering that my store-bought DVDs occasionally stop becoming readable after many years I decided to make a backup of the game CD. However I was a bit surprised when writing an image to disk ended up with a 791MB file.

I vaguely remember that Nero had an option called something like 'overburn' to get more content onto a disc than the official specs suggest but I didn't ever try it.

Does anyone have any experience on this topic?
 

Billb2

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Overburning (sometimes called oversizing) is the ability to write beyond the manufacturer’s declared capacity on a CD-R or CD-RW disc. This is accomplished by using the disc’s Lead-Out Area (reserved to indicate to a reading device that the end of the data has been reached) to store the additional user information. Although some recorders and premastering software packages have the ability to overburn a disc the practice is not permitted by Orange Book standards. Overburning might affect product warranties and result in lost data so it is not recommended.
 

PliotronX

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For that size of image, 800MB discs would be needed and my preferred software is ImgBurn using DAO. Not all burners will support DAO/overburning but far more of them will than DVD+R burners doing more than 4483MB.
 

JimKiler

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Why not just use a DVD? Waist of space, I know, but it will work.

This is what I did to backup some games that have multiple CD's i ripped the ISO files and burned the iso files onto a DVD and then i would just mount the ISO files to use the discs.
 

mikeymikec

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@Skunk-Works
This is what I did to backup some games that have multiple CD's i ripped the ISO files and burned the iso files onto a DVD and then i would just mount the ISO files to use the discs.

Some games have CD audio tracks though, surely that won't work with a DVD? Admittedly the game I want to back the disc up for doesn't have that problem, but others do.
 

JimKiler

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@Skunk-Works


Some games have CD audio tracks though, surely that won't work with a DVD? Admittedly the game I want to back the disc up for doesn't have that problem, but others do.

If you have the ISO file on a DVD and mount the file you will have access to the audio tracks since it is a CD image. your computer will not see a difference between a mounted ISO file and the original CD.
 

Lordhumungus

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I don't suppose this is for a Dreamcast game disc image? If so, go buy the total playtime, not the file size. This might be helpful.
 

XavierMace

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It seems like it would be more convenient to just keep an ISO copy of any disks you're concerned about rather than burning a second CD/DVD.
 
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BonzaiDuck

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I remember the days when CD burners were still expensive. I think you would spend ~ $150 for them in those days. And I also remember over time, the capacity of blanks changed. So I might have an older blank, put it into a newer burner, and it wouldn't even format or burn.
 

mikeymikec

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Why not just rebuy them on Steam? CDs will always degrade and you'll need to do this exercise again in a few years.

A review of the GOG version lists problems with the version they have on sale. I've seen issues with the Steam version of Kotor1/2 in some scenarios. If it was guaranteed to work at least as well as the original (and frankly I have to patch the originals to get 1080p support for example, so I'd expect that too), I'd consider it.

CDs may downgrade but CD image files don't
 
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