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xeemzor

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For a lot of schools #1 will be a waste of time. My school didn't honor CC classes you took as anything but elective credit. This was for an engineering specfic school though, and they felt the math, physics, and chemistry base you get your first 2 years was too important to allow a CC to screw it up.

You had an idea of what you wanted to do right out of school. Most students need some more time to decide their major since a majority of students switch during college. It's much better, and cheaper, to spend time at community college figuring out what you want to do than at an expensive private school. If you know which schools you want to go to you can often get them approve transfer credit before you take the class. Many schools also approve classes upon petition to the dean even if not officially supported.
 

T_Yamamoto

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For a lot of schools #1 will be a waste of time. My school didn't honor CC classes you took as anything but elective credit. This was for an engineering specfic school though, and they felt the math, physics, and chemistry base you get your first 2 years was too important to allow a CC to screw it up.
fuck CC
Actually go to class. I saw a lot of people drop out because they were too lazy\unmotivated to go to class. I also noticed a correlation connecting classroom attendance and who was paying for those classes (kids whose parents were paying were more likely to not go to class so be warned)
I'll go to class, school is actually fun. I'm happy that my parents are paying, most parents don't pay (parents paying for college is a Japanese thing)
So you speak/type like a retard on purpose? For what reason?
It was a joke.
 

T_Yamamoto

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If you think those applications are a pain, wait until you see what the rest of life has in store.

Suggestion #1: Don't get anyone pregnant.

Suggestion #2: Don't take on a lot of debt unless you're going into a field with a reasonable guaranteed income (engineering, finance, etc.). It's ok to be a 25 year old working in a coffee shop, but it's not ok to be a 25 year old working in a coffee shop with $100k in student loan debt.
Got it
what major are you going for?
Industrial Design
Wake Tech or NCCU in your future!
I'm actually applying to First Year College at NCSU and ID at VT. Also applying to a bunch of other lower level schools like UNC school below Chapel Hill (so like UNCW, UNCC, UNCG)
 

tynopik

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always finish your homework before the last office hours, because otherwise if you realize you have a question about it, tough

network, network, network

summers are for getting internships

actually read your textbooks
 

jaedaliu

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And do your homework. EVERY SINGLE PROBLEM.

The last class I taught, there was a kid that would skip the last homework problem because it was tedious. Bright kid, did well in class. However, on the final exam there was a tedious problem that was similar in style to the ones he skipped. He couldn't do it.

Good luck with getting in. Make sure you carve some time out to go to class and do your homework. College is lots of fun.
 

T_Yamamoto

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always finish your homework before the last office hours, because otherwise if you realize you have a question about it, tough

network, network, network

summers are for getting internships

actually read your textbooks
I figured that college isn't much different from my high school (people who graduate say college is easier than my high school)
And do your homework. EVERY SINGLE PROBLEM.

The last class I taught, there was a kid that would skip the last homework problem because it was tedious. Bright kid, did well in class. However, on the final exam there was a tedious problem that was similar in style to the ones he skipped. He couldn't do it.

Good luck with getting in. Make sure you carve some time out to go to class and do your homework. College is lots of fun.
I plan on it, thanks for the advice!
 

tynopik

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I figured that college isn't much different from my high school (people who graduate say college is easier than my high school)

i guess it depends on your college and high school, but . . . i'm going to strenuously disagree
 

jaedaliu

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i guess it depends on your college and high school, but . . . i'm going to strenuously disagree

I'm going to have to agree. If college is easier than your highschool, it means you went to the wrong college. I know someone that got a full ride to USD (party school) and dropped out in the middle of the first term because it was pointlessly stupid and easy. Moved back home and went to a JC instead to transfer to a real school.
 

Ken g6

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3) It's important to have a social life but focus your time on recruiting and network for jobs. Start your first year there, not your senior year.
This is what nobody told me when I was in college. Unless you really love studying and don't mind not having any money, in which case you can network with professors to become a grad student.

Parents paying
You lucky stiff! Can you get your parents to co-sign a credit card with you too? :twisted:

Technically, going to class depends on (1) how you learn best, and (2) whether or not the professor does stuff in class you can't get anywhere else, such as pop quizzes. I learn best by listening and asking interactive questions, so I attended almost every class (barring sick days, oversleeping, etc.)
 

OverVolt

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GL OP this thread is pretty dumb thus far with the advice though.

I agree on going the whole four years and screw community college. I did community college and transferred. The problem is that to be in a good program you generally need to be in it by sophomore year and you transfer in as a junior.

Without ever having taken any classes on that campus you don't know who the good professors are with connections that can get you jobs versus the professors with dead end programs that haven't landed anyone a job in 10 years. You really don't know until your feet are on the campus for a semester to feel it out. By then its difficult to switch.
 

T_Yamamoto

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I'm going to have to agree. If college is easier than your highschool, it means you went to the wrong college. I know someone that got a full ride to USD (party school) and dropped out in the middle of the first term because it was pointlessly stupid and easy. Moved back home and went to a JC instead to transfer to a real school.
I go to Enloe High School, one of the best high schools in North Carolina, 1/5 goes to UNC Chapel Hill, 1/5 goes to NC State, both flagship schools in the state of North Carolina. We have fellows who go to Ivys as well (Harvard, Princeton, UPenn).

The friends that I talked to (people who go to UNC and NCSU) say it is easier.
This is what nobody told me when I was in college. Unless you really love studying and don't mind not having any money, in which case you can network with professors to become a grad student.

You lucky stiff! Can you get your parents to co-sign a credit card with you too? :twisted:

Technically, going to class depends on (1) how you learn best, and (2) whether or not the professor does stuff in class you can't get anywhere else, such as pop quizzes. I learn best by listening and asking interactive questions, so I attended almost every class (barring sick days, oversleeping, etc.)
Here is what I've heard and something I will consider doing: reading the class syllabus.
I might ask them to help build up my credit by having my own, but letting them use it and pay the bills.
 

Red Storm

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Community College was my best experience in college. Better professors, smaller classes, lower costs, just a better experience overall (for me).

Then again, I was paying my way through school. If you've got your parents paying it for you, go to the best they can afford and do your best.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Here is what I've heard and something I will consider doing: reading the class syllabus.

It's a good thing that you're thinking about this now rather than later. This is not a decision lightly, and while it is good that you are considering reading it, keep in mind the ups and downs of both sides. The risks of spending 3 minutes of your life to be aware of exam dates, grading policies, and office hours are not trivial. Whichever you decide, you'll have my support and respect.
 

T_Yamamoto

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it's no School of Science and Math



are they taking African Studies at UNC?


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what's your SAT? (with subject breakdown)

1) we are on par with NCSSM

2) no they are not. 2 are doing CS while another is doing biology.
3) first try was a 1900 flat, don't really remember the breakdown, but I do remember my math being a 760 (only missed 2 problems). I plan on taking it again ASAP.




It's a good thing that you're thinking about this now rather than later. This is not a decision lightly, and while it is good that you are considering reading it, keep in mind the ups and downs of both sides. The risks of spending 3 minutes of your life to be aware of exam dates, grading policies, and office hours are not trivial. Whichever you decide, you'll have my support and respect.
I'm planning on reading it.
 

tynopik

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3) first try was a 1900 flat, don't really remember the breakdown, but I do remember my math being a 760 (only missed 2 problems).

1. your English skills must flat-out suck (but we already knew that)
2. with that math score, why not aim higher? you should be able to get into a more highly-ranked university
 

T_Yamamoto

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1. your English skills must flat-out suck (but we already knew that)
2. with that math score, why not aim higher? you should be able to get into a more highly-ranked university

GPA and stuff like that. SAT math is a piece of cake.
 

Red Squirrel

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I don't remember it being that hard, then again things probably changed. It seems everything today is about the paperwork. Ever apply for a passport or even renew one? WTF ridiculous.

Just fill it out the best you can, and hope for the best. Once you get the logistical stuff out of the way, college wont be that bad. The last year might be a little hectic though. I was pretty much a zombie near the end, with zero time for myself.
 

z1ggy

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On the question of is HS easier or harder than college....

College with out a doubt.

It's not only because your courses are indeed actually harder (I doubt you took calc III or differential equations in high school) but the teachers most of the time give zero fucks about you. There are different social situations you will find yourself in that will make you choose between work, and play. Time management will become harder, too.

Really the hardest part is being an adult.


And to the matter of getting in to a school...If your parents are going to write a check... And you get decent grades at a high level tech. high school... and you're asian... Hmmm yeah you are going to go where ever you want pretty much (except maybe Ivy's).

Btw, what the fuq is industrial design? Designing factories? Why the hell would you do that?
 
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