How to control the people : Keep them stupid and uninformed

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xthetenth

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Well stop saying the standard stupid things and you'll stop getting the standard answer.



Who gives a rats ass what you've allegedly done on your "spare time"? Funny thing, the most educated people are the ones that's been screwing our planet up and causing climate change. Idiots like me don't get the chance to make planet-altering decisions...just "educated" clowns like you.

What gives people like you with an active disdain for knowledge the idea that their opinions are worth anything? If you have ever been correct about anything in your life, it is because you were graciously given knowledge or sheer lucky coincidence.
 
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ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Actually, no. most of those industrialist types are probably college dropouts and, maybe, MBAs at the most. hardly the brightest of people. Just really good at dicking people over and profiting from it.
Tesla is a good example. Frickin' genius, horrible businessman.
 

Retro Rob

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Actually, no. most of those industrialist types are probably college dropouts and, maybe, MBAs at the most. hardly the brightest of people. Just really good at dicking people over and profiting from it.

I think my point is that you don't have HS Diploma/GED holders making those decisions. Its only persons with degrees and/or those who attended college.
 

xthetenth

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I think my point is that you don't have HS Diploma/GED holders making those decisions. Its only persons with degrees and/or those who attended college.

I'm concerned that you don't fully understand your point. I am not, however, surprised.
 
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Azuma Hazuki

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Who gives a rats ass what you've allegedly done on your "spare time"? Funny thing, the most educated people are the ones that's been screwing our planet up and causing climate change. Idiots like me don't get the chance to make planet-altering decisions...just "educated" clowns like you.

This is a non-sequitur. The point is that I know your religion, its ancestry, its theology, its Scriptures, and its apologia far better than you do. You really do not seem to understand the tenets of your own faith, and this kind of reaction only shows that I've hit a nerve, badly.
 
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cytg111

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Well stop saying the standard stupid things and you'll stop getting the standard answer.

Who gives a rats ass what you've allegedly done on your "spare time"? Funny thing, the most educated people are the ones that's been screwing our planet up and causing climate change. Idiots like me don't get the chance to make planet-altering decisions...just "educated" clowns like you.

And providing infrastructure for indoor plumbing, running water, vaccines, computers, clean energy, gas guzzling trucks, people on the moon and mars plus we found the higgs boson, you know the god particle. If you dont like our western science I hear the Taliban is recruiting.
 

Retro Rob

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This is a non-sequitur. The point is that I know your religion, its ancestry, its theology, its Scriptures, and its apologia far better than you do. You really do not seem to understand the tenets of your own faith, and this kind of reaction only shows that I've hit a nerve, badly.

Yeah, I probably don't know my own faith....
 

Azuma Hazuki

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Based on how you're posting here, I would say you definitely don't know your own faith.

Which is to say, you know the catechism or creed, but you don't know its history, its changes, its antecedents, its connections with earlier traditions...all of which are important.

Besides, you've given the game away already: you've chosen to believe certain things, and in order to maintain those beliefs, you dismiss out of hand anything that might possibly challenge them. Why are you so afraid of the possibility that God is better than people have told you?
 
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Azuma Hazuki

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Ohhhh, boy. You really are frightened, aren't you? Wanna mix it up? Fine: how do you know what is good and what is evil, and by what standard do you judge?
 
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Azuma Hazuki

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I notice both him and the other "good Christian" on the forum, ol' Buckyball, steadfastly refuse to engage with me on this question. Possibly because they know they'll get their asses beat harder than a shop that specializes in donkey leather.
 
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I notice both him and the other "good Christian" on the forum, ol' Buckyball, steadfastly refuse to engage with me on this question. Possibly because they know they'll get their asses beat harder than a shop that specializes in donkey leather.

A pair of ass-less chaps don't provide much protection from a beating like that though.
 

xthetenth

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I notice both him and the other "good Christian" on the forum, ol' Buckyball, steadfastly refuse to engage with me on this question. Possibly because they know they'll get their asses beat harder than a shop that specializes in donkey leather.

For a lot of people a religion is a cultural identity more than anything to do with the teachings of those they theoretically revere or any sense of morality other than the prejudices of their community that were ingrained into them before they could learn to question things.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Very true. It's part of who you are. I am proud that my kids will make it to adulthood without religion being forced on them.
 

GagHalfrunt

Lifer
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I notice both him and the other "good Christian" on the forum, ol' Buckyball, steadfastly refuse to engage with me on this question. Possibly because they know they'll get their asses beat harder than a shop that specializes in donkey leather.

Don't flatter yourself. The wannabelievers have been getting their ass kicked here long before you showed up.
 

Moonbeam

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Be fair, Gag, how many people on here have trained themselves in moral philosophy?
Objectively speaking and for the sake of nothing but that and without any personal implications whatsoever, training while it might inspire positive confidence can't be seen, in my opinion, to assure anything. There is a saying that was given to me in a book that was recommended reading: A donkey loaded with books remains a donkey. That tells me that while a person may have even memorized moral texts it does not assure their understanding.

My personal take on the matter is that one's moral understanding will be self evident to others who have it and invisible to anybody else, regardless of pedigree.
 

trenchfoot

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The pope is a fake christian to many of these whack jobs.

Really sad seeing as if this Pope, a Pope that I truly consider to be of, for and by the common people of the world, is the very first one that I truly respect and admire as a human being.

If only our world's leaders would be cast from the same mold.

And then there's Trump. ugh
 
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