Originally posted by: jaybert
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Apply to a state school, attend for 4 years, pay off your $20k student loans (instead of $80k) and realize that top ranked school wasn't worth it.
not sure why people say that...it does make a difference, depending on what you want to do. Certain companies/industries, it almost impossible to get into if you are not from a target school. One specifically, is the finance industry. If you do not attend one of the target schools, the chances of getting a job there are so much lower than if you had. Is it fair? Probably not, but with limited number jobs, and number of people wanting these jobs, schools are by far one of the easiest ways to cut down the applicant pool.
Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: aplefka
Just be happy you only got rejected by your number one school, and not your number one and two after having everyone tell you you were a shoe-in for both. All that bullshit they feed you about SATs, ACTs, and GPAs is bullshit. I got over 2000 on my SAT, got a 32 overall on my ACT, and my GPA was over 4.2 even having only one weighted class out of my last eight. Extracurriculars, check. Community involvement, check. Everything was there, it just didn't work out for me.
those scores are pretty mediocre, i had a 33 and a 1480 (of 1600) and never even considered that i was a candidate for an ivy league school. Of the 3 schools that i applied to, i was accepted by all 3 and went to my last choice because if was cheaper and more convenient.
That elitist attitude isn't going to help him buddy.
Originally posted by: Eeezee
Originally posted by: jaybert
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Apply to a state school, attend for 4 years, pay off your $20k student loans (instead of $80k) and realize that top ranked school wasn't worth it.
not sure why people say that...it does make a difference, depending on what you want to do. Certain companies/industries, it almost impossible to get into if you are not from a target school. One specifically, is the finance industry. If you do not attend one of the target schools, the chances of getting a job there are so much lower than if you had. Is it fair? Probably not, but with limited number jobs, and number of people wanting these jobs, schools are by far one of the easiest ways to cut down the applicant pool.
Because it's true in 99.999% of cases. Even that finance job could be obtained by a state school graduate with a few years of experience over the new graduate straight from Harvard or wherever.
B-students at Harvard aren't worth more than A students at a good state school.
Originally posted by: jaybert
Originally posted by: Eeezee
Originally posted by: jaybert
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Apply to a state school, attend for 4 years, pay off your $20k student loans (instead of $80k) and realize that top ranked school wasn't worth it.
not sure why people say that...it does make a difference, depending on what you want to do. Certain companies/industries, it almost impossible to get into if you are not from a target school. One specifically, is the finance industry. If you do not attend one of the target schools, the chances of getting a job there are so much lower than if you had. Is it fair? Probably not, but with limited number jobs, and number of people wanting these jobs, schools are by far one of the easiest ways to cut down the applicant pool.
Because it's true in 99.999% of cases. Even that finance job could be obtained by a state school graduate with a few years of experience over the new graduate straight from Harvard or wherever.
B-students at Harvard aren't worth more than A students at a good state school.
I'm just telling you what I observe first hand at my job (hedge fund), and other ibanks out there. Also, its not fair to compare someone graduating from state school with a few years experience with someone coming out of Harvard. They are not applying for the same jobs. In the finance industry, those who are getting top jobs are those who already have jobs at the top companies.
EDIT: i would like to re-state that I am referring specifically to certain industries, and I'm also not saying whether its "fair" or even makes sense, but I'm just telling you what I have observed first hand.
Originally posted by: Eeezee
Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: aplefka
Just be happy you only got rejected by your number one school, and not your number one and two after having everyone tell you you were a shoe-in for both. All that bullshit they feed you about SATs, ACTs, and GPAs is bullshit. I got over 2000 on my SAT, got a 32 overall on my ACT, and my GPA was over 4.2 even having only one weighted class out of my last eight. Extracurriculars, check. Community involvement, check. Everything was there, it just didn't work out for me.
those scores are pretty mediocre, i had a 33 and a 1480 (of 1600) and never even considered that i was a candidate for an ivy league school. Of the 3 schools that i applied to, i was accepted by all 3 and went to my last choice because if was cheaper and more convenient.
That elitist attitude isn't going to help him buddy.
miketheidiot doesn't realize that ivy league schools were accepting people with as low as 1200 (out of 1600) on their SATs. Could it be because he's an idiot?