How to destroy data on multiple harddrives.

cisco911

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I have a project coming up where 2000 pc's will need the hard drives destroyed or wiped. what would the fastest most reliable method to do this.

also the harddrives cannot be seperated from the pc except for the data removal. then the harddrive wouldh have to be replaced.
 
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skip + rubbish + wood + other flammables + petrol + Lighter + lawn chair + beer +shades + pet dog = no more data

or you could take a variety of power tools to them
 

theMan

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not one of these threads again! :disgust:

anyway, there are programs that run random data over the drive. do a zero fill, and then run that for a few days. the person would have to be pretty good to recover anything. low level formatting is good too.
 

cisco911

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Good ideas but the drives have to stay intact with the pc. Dont matter if it works, i dont think. but it has to stay with the pc.

Also a data wiper wont work as it is too slow. I will be dealing with 2000+ of these.


Also please no thread crapping, This is a serious question. It involves my Job. Thanks.
 

Jeff7181

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You either physically destroy the hard drive, or spend the time writing over and over and over. There's no shortcuts if the data actually NEEDS to be made unrecoverable.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: cisco911
Good ideas but the drives have to stay intact with the pc. Dont matter if it works, i dont think. but it has to stay with the pc.

Also a data wiper wont work as it is too slow. I will be dealing with 2000+ of these.


Also please no thread crapping, This is a serious question. It involves my Job. Thanks.

Using an inccinerator you can keep the hard drives with the PCs.
 

Oyeve

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Originally posted by: cisco911
Someone told me that a strong magent would work. Anybody know?

No, as some of the worlds strongest magnets are already IN hard drives. Use DBAN.
 

theMan

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all you have to do, is pop the HD out, that will take about 45 seconds. and then drop it onto a hard surface from above your head. if the platters are shattered, they are not recoverable. magnet would work, but you would have to take it out of the pc because it could break other things in there. also, you wont be sure wether or not the job is done.
 

cisco911

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It does not matter if it breaks other things inside the pc. Just as long as the harddrive is with the pc and the data is wiped.
 

RichUK

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Originally posted by: Oyeve
Originally posted by: cisco911
Someone told me that a strong magent would work. Anybody know?

No, as some of the worlds strongest magnets are already IN hard drives. Use DBAN.


i second that, the magnet is used for the movement of the arm accross the platters .. back in my college days we took one apart .. and o my god i had to pick the magnet off with a screw driver and some real force that thing was solid.. i have never seen somthing that powerfull (well magnet wise anyway) before ..
 

Arcanedeath

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HDD's use rare earth magnets as part of the heads so no using a magnet to erase them. My best suggestion would be to setup a network Ghost server w/ drive images that contain all zeros and push them out to all the PC's on the network that your getting rid of, thats prolly the most effective way to erase all the systems, if this isn't feasible then use some peice of software to write 0's to the drives on an indivdual basis, mabye hire a temp to erase all the systems.
 

RichUK

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Originally posted by: cisco911
I have a project coming up where 2000 pc's will need the hard drives destroyed or wiped. what would the fastest most reliable method to do this.

also the harddrives cannot be seperated from the pc except for the data removal. then the harddrive wouldh have to be replaced.

can i just ask why or wouldn't you rather say?
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: cisco911
It does not matter if it breaks other things inside the pc. Just as long as the harddrive is with the pc and the data is wiped.

This sounds very odd... if the entire PC can be destroyed, why are you worried about keeping the hard drive with the PC?

I wonder if MIG welding a hard drive would screw up the data.
 

yacoub

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Originally posted by: cisco911
It does not matter if it breaks other things inside the pc. Just as long as the harddrive is with the pc and the data is wiped.

Uh, okay then - tossing the whole PCs into an incinerator gets my vote. =p
 

sarotara

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How badly do you want someone not to be able to recover the information? And how much time and resources do you have to do this?

Considering that you're dealing with over 2000 hard drives it will be rather difficult to wipe the hard drives so that the data is not recoverable unless you have a lot of time.

Several methods I can think of:
1) Quick format - Fairly fast but obviously not very effective
2) a. Overwriting - The DoD requirement for overwriting AIS storage media is to overwrite the data with a pattern, then its complement, then another pattern. Slow, but effective.
b. Overwriting - The DoD clearing requirement is to write any character to all data locations. Faster than the above but not as effective.
3) Hand-held magnet - Some people suggested this, but for this to be effective you either need to have a very powerful, and usually very heavy, magnet, or you need to take each hard drive apart and put the data platters in direct with a magnet.
4) Type I or Type II degausser - Very effective but also tend to be expensive, unless you want to rent one.
5) Physical damage to the hard drive - You said you need to replace the hard drive after wiping the data so you would need to damage the data platters in some way. Time consuming.

 

sarotara

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Hmm, are you actually required to wipe the data? Wouldn't breaking off or bending the pins on the IDE or SCSI interface connectors do the trick? You could probably do this fairly fast.
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: sarotara
Hmm, are you actually required to wipe the data? Wouldn't breaking off or bending the pins on the IDE or SCSI interface connectors do the trick? You could probably do this fairly fast.

No... if someone wants access to the data they'll open the hard drive up and take the platters out.
 
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