How to ensure the financial future of your child - social security disability

[Oldgamer]

Here is another article, and this pretty much sums up what my kin had to do. You cannot just sit on your butt and receive benefits. SNAPS food benefits is inadequate to live off in the way of food actually. My nephew was only receiving roughly 35.00 dollars a month in food benefits. It was mandatory that he participate in the work assistance programs http://www.lawny.org/index.php/bene...6/227-public-assistance-and-work-requirements

 

[Oldgamer]

The root of the problem isn't the poor choices. Those poor choices are often the end result of an upbringing that led them to a position where those "poor choices" are the only choices they know.

It is called economic mobility, and many poor are stuck in that. I agree there needs to be a better way to help them out of poverty, or some way to train them for other well paying jobs, and or giving child care assistance when they work should they have kids. There are many things that can be done, but most states do not want to invest the money or effort. It is far easier to peg all poor, disabled, or poor moms as undeserving cheaters and give them nothing, or make it impossible for them to get help.

 

[Texashiker]

Here is another article, and this pretty much sums up what my kin had to do. You cannot just sit on your butt and receive benefits. SNAPS food benefits is inadequate to live off in the way of food actually. My nephew was only receiving roughly 35.00 dollars a month in food benefits. It was mandatory that he participate in the work assistance programs

Too bad other states do not require some kind of work program.

 

[nehalem256]

The root of the problem isn't the poor choices. Those poor choices are often the end result of an upbringing that led them to a position where those "poor choices" are the only choices they know.

So the problem is they are being raised by people who make poor choices.

Again it seems like the only way out of the cycle is for the government to stop letting these people make poor choices.

 

[nehalem256]

It is called economic mobility, and many poor are stuck in that. I agree there needs to be a better way to help them out of poverty, or some way to train them for other well paying jobs, and or giving child care assistance when they work should they have kids. There are many things that can be done, but most states do not want to invest the money or effort. It is far easier to peg all poor, disabled, or poor moms as undeserving cheaters and give them nothing, or make it impossible for them to get help.

Did you read my article. From NPR btw, hardly a right-wing rag?

According to NPR the woman is poor because of her repeated bad choices. She is undeserving of help. Assuming you have any rational definition of undeserving.

 

[Olikan]

So the problem is they are being raised by people who make poor choices.

Again it seems like the only way out of the cycle is for the government to stop letting these people make poor choices.

mmm....yes?
without this.... theyr only chances is beeing poor or....even more poor

 

[Texashiker]

Bumping this thread with some news.

I found out today the mother has had the child who is 4 years old diagnosed with ADHD, along with autism, and has filed for social security disability. The autism is a new diagnosis. This started a couple of weeks ago.

I may not be a doctor, but all I see is a normal 4 year old.

 

[Engineer]

If you were disabled before 18 you can qualify based on your parents work record.

You can get SSDI without the parents working.

 

[ZaneNBK]

Bumping this thread with some news.

I found out today the mother has had the child who is 4 years old diagnosed with ADHD, along with autism, and has filed for social security disability. The autism is a new diagnosis. This started a couple of weeks ago.

I may not be a doctor, but all I see is a normal 4 year old.

I'm surprised anyone ever responds to you any more. You don't want suggestions or answers, you want to put your opinions/agenda out there and ignore any dissenting opinions as you've already made up your mind.

 

[Texashiker]

I'm surprised anyone ever responds to you any more. You don't want suggestions or answers, you want to put your opinions/agenda out there and ignore any dissenting opinions as you've already made up your mind.

What are you talking about?

There is no suggestion or answer to people mooching off the system.

 

[umbrella39]

I may not be a doctor, but all I see is a normal 4 year old.

So do we...

With the exception of the normal part. Grow up and give this shit a rest already.

 

[First]

What are you talking about?

There is no suggestion or answer to people mooching off the system.

That's because most people trying that hard to game the system can only be successful at it temporarily. Your anecdotal BS isn't all that interesting knowing that it doesn't happen often enough to matter and because no system (public or private) is perfect, so pointing out that gov't isn't perfect isn't surprising and can only be fixed so much before it starts overtly punishing legitimate claimants.

 

[ModerateRepZero]

A little late to this thread, but re: qualifying for Social Security disability, either:

1) you have to have enough & recent work (to apply for yourself)

2) you have to have be 18+, disabled before 22, unmarried, and parent must be receiving retirement or disability benefits

3) you have to have be 18+, disabled before 22, unmarried, and parent must be deceased

disabled child under 18 would qualify for child benefits since disability is not a factor until age 18 (then student or disabled child benefits takes over)

Also, for SSI (Supplemental Security income), people under 65 qualify if they are blind or disabled and meet the income, resource/asset, and other requirements. I've seen lots of children apply who're infants and thus never worked.

 

[ModerateRepZero]

What are you talking about?

There is no suggestion or answer to people mooching off the system.

Give enough information to a Social Security Rep or (anonymously) report it to the Inspector General (IG): https://www.socialsecurity.gov/fraudreport/oig/public_fraud_reporting/form.htm

 

[nehalem256]

Bumping this thread with some news.

I found out today the mother has had the child who is 4 years old diagnosed with ADHD, along with autism, and has filed for social security disability. The autism is a new diagnosis. This started a couple of weeks ago.

I may not be a doctor, but all I see is a normal 4 year old.

You aren't the only one:

Autism spectrum diagnoses are up 78 percent in 10 years. We're dramatically overdiagnosing it in everyday behavior

BY ENRICO GNAULATI PH.D.

http://www.salon.com/2013/09/21/thats_not_autism_its_simply_a_brainy_introverted_boy/singleton/

 

[Texashiker]

That's because most people trying that hard to game the system can only be successful at it temporarily. Your anecdotal BS isn't all that interesting knowing that it doesn't happen often enough to matter and because no system (public or private) is perfect, so pointing out that gov't isn't perfect isn't surprising and can only be fixed so much before it starts overtly punishing legitimate claimants.

The people who game the system are out-breeding those who work for a living.

If I remember right something like 40% of American households get some kind of assistance from the government.

I think people turning to the government is a sign of the times. The jobs that supported the middle class are gone, college can cost a fortune,,, so why not turn to the government for help.

If you want to ensure the financial future of your child, do not send them to college, do not send them to trade school, just get them on SSI.

 

[Brainonska511]

If you want to ensure the financial future of your child, do not send them to college, do not send them to trade school, just get them on SSI.

Oh yeah. Living on SSI is grand. Here in reality, no one is staying poor because the benefits are so good.

 

[Engineer]

If you want to ensure the financial future of your child, do not send them to college, do not send them to trade school, just get them on SSI.

That's not a plan. Oh, and for the record, there are many on SSI that has lost it (and had to fight to get it back - even to the point of going to court multiple times). Just getting on it doesn't mean that it will last for life.

Regardless, that's a shitty plan.

I do agree with you however that people are turning to the government more and more. Ship their good paying jobs out and give them shitty, low wage service jobs and this is the result. To those that tout the service industry as the savior, this is on you. Enjoy your ever expanding socialist state.

 

[Texashiker]

That's not a plan. Oh, and for the record, there are many on SSI that has lost it (and had to fight to get it back - even to the point of going to court multiple times). Just getting on it doesn't mean that it will last for life.

Regardless, that's a shitty plan.

You and I both know its a crappy plan.

How many children raised in welfare families break the cycle? On top of that, government handouts are like an infectious disease.

Family A is having problems making ends meet.

Family B tells family A to go sign up for food stamps and medicaid.

Family A gets signed up, then becomes dependent on the handouts.

Besides wanting a better life, and pride, there is no incentive to break the cycle. There is no requirement to go to college, or go to trade school,,, nothing but take the handouts.

The family in the opening post and in the bump have been on welfare for 3 generations.

I am 45 years old, been working since high school. So lets just say somewhere around 29 - 30 years I have been in the workforce paying my taxes and contributing to the system. When am I going to get my government handouts? When am I going to get my free healthcare and free food? I pay $547 every month so my family can get health insurance. And I still have to pay copays. But people on medicaid get paid to go to the doctor?

That is one hell of a system our government has rigged up.

 

[nanette1985]

Bumping this thread with some news.

I found out today the mother has had the child who is 4 years old diagnosed with ADHD, along with autism, and has filed for social security disability. The autism is a new diagnosis. This started a couple of weeks ago.

I may not be a doctor, but all I see is a normal 4 year old.

As an autism advocate, allow me to say that just because someone has been diagnosed with autism, SSDI seldom accepts that diagnosis. SSDI MD's at least here in NJ will do a thorough screening. Which usually isn't autism. It's very difficult to get SSDI for autistic children here in NJ. Is it easy where you are?

And for what it's worth, my autistic son was diagnosed with autism at a few months old.

 

[Lithium381]

As an autism advocate, allow me to say that just because someone has been diagnosed with autism, SSDI seldom accepts that diagnosis. SSDI MD's at least here in NJ will do a thorough screening. Which usually isn't autism. It's very difficult to get SSDI for autistic children here in NJ. Is it easy where you are?

And for what it's worth, my autistic son was diagnosed with autism at a few months old.

My nephew is 3 years old and depending on who you talk to, he's either got no autism, slight autism, or a full form of autism. In doing perliminary reasearch, autism isn't a single disease right? it's more of a condition that can be caused by a wide spectrum of causes. . it's rather complicated and diagnosis can vary. Do the symptoms improve/worsen over time or is it a day by day thing? I know it's very hard for my sister-in-law

 

[Texashiker]

As an autism advocate, allow me to say that just because someone has been diagnosed with autism, SSDI seldom accepts that diagnosis. SSDI MD's at least here in NJ will do a thorough screening. Which usually isn't autism. It's very difficult to get SSDI for autistic children here in NJ. Is it easy where you are?

Not having gone through the application process I do not know how easy it it.

I am not trying to sound rude, or disrespectful, I know three teenagers who have autsim. They range from being totally isolated from real life, to being able to sing cartoon theme songs, but still being able to interact with society.

One of the three will never be able to lead a normal life, and will always be dependent on the system.

The other two interact somewhat well with others. They should be able to hold some kind of job.

The young child in the opening post acts nothing like the three I know with autism. She shows a lot of emotion in her voice, interacts well with others, plays well with other kids,,,, the whole nine yards.

If I put her in a group of ten kids that were playing kickball, you would not be able to pick her out.

 

[Jhhnn]

The people who game the system are out-breeding those who work for a living.

If I remember right something like 40% of American households get some kind of assistance from the government.

I think people turning to the government is a sign of the times. The jobs that supported the middle class are gone, college can cost a fortune,,, so why not turn to the government for help.

If you want to ensure the financial future of your child, do not send them to college, do not send them to trade school, just get them on SSI.

So, uhh, the fabled Job Creators turned out to be the Lootocracy?

Funny how that works.

Truth is that they dumped their frumpy old American Workforce for a hot new Chinese mistress, a real slut, who'll do anything they ask for nearly nothing.

Between that and automation, there are increasingly limited employment opportunities in this country, but Righties still operate on the mindset that jobs are plentiful, more work is needed, and that resources are infinite & freely available, just like when the frontier was open. Too bad that their capitalist idols don't see it the same way.

Even as employment becomes more & more a privilege for the few, they see it in moralistic terms of laziness & sloth, of somehow being morally superior by dint of employment, when luck is more a factor than they can comprehend.

As Moonbeam referenced earlier, there are millions on welfare and millions on millions of low wage jobs there for the taking, but only in their imaginations. Robots & Chinese get those jobs to pad the profit margins of people whose incomes are enormous & whose purposes are merely to win & to obtain more power. They don't need for us to work at all, for the most part. They let us work, sometimes, just enough to service the debt on the money they lend us & to get by, never get ahead. At least that's their ideal situation.

We remain the richest nation on earth, but we've somehow lost track of how to share it constructively, mired in the ideology of selfish greed. Some are manipulated into accepting that ideology willingly, even when it's against their own interests. It's easy to convince us that we're somehow superior, and that those more unfortunate are inferior, because it's what we've been taught our whole lives. Our pride & sense of self worth is double edged, used both to enable ourselves & to vilify others.

 

[brycejones]

Oh hell, if you're shocked by this you haven't been paying attention. This is an old game. Go watch a documentary called "The Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia".

BTW I think its utter bs in an area that is ripe for abuse and needs to be tightened up.

 

[nehalem256]

As an autism advocate, allow me to say that just because someone has been diagnosed with autism, SSDI seldom accepts that diagnosis. SSDI MD's at least here in NJ will do a thorough screening. Which usually isn't autism. It's very difficult to get SSDI for autistic children here in NJ. Is it easy where you are?

And for what it's worth, my autistic son was diagnosed with autism at a few months old.

Depending on exactly what this means how is that even possible?

My nephew is 3 years old and depending on who you talk to, he's either got no autism, slight autism, or a full form of autism. In doing perliminary reasearch, autism isn't a single disease right? it's more of a condition that can be caused by a wide spectrum of causes. . it's rather complicated and diagnosis can vary. Do the symptoms improve/worsen over time or is it a day by day thing? I know it's very hard for my sister-in-law

The article I linked earlier pretty much explains that: http://www.salon.com/2013/09/21/thats_not_autism_its_simply_a_brainy_introverted_boy/singleton/

Autism has basically become a trendy diagnosis. I remember reading that they used to think that autism was rare in South Korea. Then they went looking for it and found it in a bunch of school children that had had no problems for years