How to fight off a dog

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NetGuySC

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Once he latches onto your forearm, wrap you other arm behind his neck and try to break his neck
 

angminas

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Avoid its teeth, Dogs aren't really that dangerous of an animal compared to a wild animal, there are reasons why they are domesticated and sold as pets. Cause they really aren't all that threatening. We aren't talking about a wolf, a bear or another frightening wild animal. Unless the dog is a dog trained to attack someone they tend to be fairly harmless.

Swoosh.

Anyway, for the people who can actually read.

In a real fight, angry dogs are almost unbelievably fast and strong. They have good balance and traction, and many of them have jaws which will rip you up like a chainsaw. If a decent-sized dog is making even a half-hearted attack, consider it a life or death situation and fight like a wolverine. Do not let up until the dog is dead or running away as fast as it can. Do not stop to feel sorry for the dog...you and your family come first. Sorry can come later. Besides, even if you don't kill the dog, you have to leave it with a negative association or it's likely to attack someone again. Maybe a pregnant woman. Maybe a child. As soon as you escape, you must 1. make sure you're not bleeding to death, and 2. call the police. That said...

Unless there's shelter VERY close at hand, don't try to outrun a dog. Roar as loud as you can and move purposefully toward the dog. Crouch slightly, make a fist and use your weak arm as a shield, keep your head back, don't run. This will protect your groin (a primary target for a dog), face, throat, fingers, and Achilles tendons. If it latches onto your weak arm, grab the neck tightly and chokeslam as hard as you can. If you can't grab it or lift it, go for the eyes or nose, or pull it down and put a knee on it. Press down with all your weight. Once the dog is pinned, you can put a second knee on its throat or ribs. Don't make a big swing with your leg...you cannot risk falling down. It doesn't take much of a bite to the throat to cancel your ticket.

This is for fighting a single dog, not a pack. Unless you're armed or you're fighting chihuahuas, you really can't win a fight against a pack...you have to get to shelter or scare them off.
 

NuclearNed

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A friend of mine, George Hatcher, was a POW in WWII, shot down during a bombing run over Nazi Germany.

http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/News/article.php?id=94720

^^^ pic of George & some of his story

George wrote a short account of his experiences in a Nazi POW camp, which I've had the pleasure of reading. While a prisoner, George did something that angered the guards, so they released their German Shepherds on him. George is an old country boy who knows a few things about dogs, including the fact that dogs' front paws are very sensitive. Basically, while being attacked George defensively rolled up into a ball on the ground, grabbed the dogs' paws, and squeezed them with all his strength. According to his book, this almost instantly made the dogs back off and leave him alone.
 
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Perknose

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There are plenty of stories around about professional dog handlers choking out vicious dogs while avoiding the jaws. I think an MMA fighter recently did one that made the news.

Possibly . . . but on the Bell Curve of dog-human fights these would be on one lonely end of the curve.

Anyone with any real life experience KNOWS how damn fast a dog can be when it want to bite you -- faster than most of us non-MMA fighters here.

For most all of us here, reaching for a dog's throat would get you bit, repeatedly, before you could do a damn thing.

Next up: Zombies, followed by zombie dogs, and then:

The most important self-defense scenario of all!
 

uclaLabrat

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Possibly . . . but on the Bell Curve of dog-human fights these would be on one lonely end of the curve.

Anyone with any real life experience KNOWS how damn fast a dog can be when it want to bite you -- faster than most of us non-MMA fighters here.

For most all of us here, reaching for a dog's throat would get you bit, repeatedly, before you could do a damn thing.

Next up: Zombies, followed by zombie dogs, and then:

The most important self-defense scenario of all!
I'm not sure...I wrestle with my ridgeback all the time, and he plays rough, where he's trying really hard to grab my hands. Even when I'm drinking, I'm usually fast enough to get to his throat if I use both hands. The trick is to use both hands, using one as a distraction and move the other in until you get close enough to grab it. Hook your hand under his chin and he can't do anything about it.
 

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One of my childhood friends had a chesepeke bay retriever who always tried to bite me everytime I went into their yard, even years after me coming around (nearly daily)...

I got pretty used to handling the situation. This is what I found as best in defending against the dog:

Basically as it comes to you, stiff arm it and grab the side of its face/neck area, it will try to bite your wrist, etc. While doing so, you pivot around them and jump on their back, and get its torso into a leg lock with you basically straddling it on their back and hold their scruff from behind.

Requires some wrestling to get into that position, but I found that was easiest for defense. Eventually the dog will calm down and you can get up and move away.

This method is not completely safe, as you will likely have bite marks/scratches on your wrist, but it won't be fatal. I did it to sacrifice my hands so it wouldn't overpower me and take me down. (I was 8 years old maybe, so the dog weighed nearly as much as me)
 

Perknose

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I'm not sure...I wrestle with my ridgeback all the time, and he plays rough, where he's trying really hard to grab my hands. Even when I'm drinking, I'm usually fast enough to get to his throat if I use both hands. The trick is to use both hands, using one as a distraction and move the other in until you get close enough to grab it. Hook your hand under his chin and he can't do anything about it.

Your ridgeback in not in attack mode, he is playing with you. Watch two dogs play fighting, they allow the other take-down moves that would never happen if they were serious.

Your tussels are a game to him, and YOU are the Alpha animal to whom he will defer.

Try sticking your hands in to break-up a dog fight just one time. You never will again.

When they are SERIOUS, dogs are freaking quick with their strikes. I'm not saying sometimes some pros haven't anecdotally won that battle, just that most of the rest of us would lose almost always.

Generally speaking, dogs are quicker than joo.
 

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I'd say it really depends on the dog. If it's something like a rottie, pit/staffordshire, german, akita, doberman, ect and it's trained to attack/kill...I'm going to try and get into any sort of defensible position that I can. Climb up something, grab something to put between me and the dog, find something to shield myself with, ect. Anything that I can swing or defend with that isn't attached to me.

If I'm over taken then I'm doing anything I can to grab a paw or leg and snapping that thing off. Dog's legs are not overly solid and can easily be dislocated or broken. Once I hobble it up I'm getting TFO if I'm still able to run.
 

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Your ridgeback in not in attack mode, he is playing with you. Watch two dogs play fighting, they allow the other take-down moves that would never happen if they were serious.

Your tussels are a game to him, and YOU are the Alpha animal to whom he will defer.

Try sticking your hands in to break-up a dog fight just one time. You never will again.

When they are SERIOUS, dogs are freaking quick with their strikes. I'm not saying sometimes some pros haven't anecdotally won that battle, just that most of the rest of us would lose almost always.

Generally speaking, dogs are quicker than joo.

I was going to say something like this. Even with the story about the Chesapeake, bite mode is not the same as murder mode.
 

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I've had and been around dogs my whole life, I have walked dogs my whole life, and I was never attacked. I was approached once by a aggressive dog that I felt might get a little nuts while walking my dogs. A small shot of pepper spray on the snout drove him away. In a few other instances I just stood my ground and there was no problem.

I'm waiting for the Jerry Springer crowd and the "just shoot 'em y'all, yuk, yuk" responses.
 

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Your ridgeback in not in attack mode, he is playing with you. Watch two dogs play fighting, they allow the other take-down moves that would never happen if they were serious.

Your tussels are a game to him, and YOU are the Alpha animal to whom he will defer.

Try sticking your hands in to break-up a dog fight just one time. You never will again.

When they are SERIOUS, dogs are freaking quick with their strikes. I'm not saying sometimes some pros haven't anecdotally won that battle, just that most of the rest of us would lose almost always.

Generally speaking, dogs are quicker than joo.

I did this once. A girl was walking her dog on the street in front of my house. My dog ran out and attacked hers... I was thinking about the potential lawsuit, realized I was very likely to get bitten, and grabbed my dog by the scruff of his neck to pull him off the other dog. I still have the scars
 

Perknose

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When they are SERIOUS, dogs are freaking quick with their strikes. I'm not saying sometimes some pros haven't anecdotally won that battle, just that most of the rest of us would lose almost always.

Generally speaking, dogs are quicker than joo.

I was just speaking from my own experience, so now I went to the Internet, where everything posted is true.

Anyway, from the very first listing:

How to Defend Yourself Against a Dog Attack

[FONT=Verdana,sans-serif]My name is Adam Katz. For [approximately] seven years, I owned a company called South Bay K-9 Academy. I currently own the web site: Dogproblems.com. And I am the author of the widely acclaimed book, "Secrets of a Professional Dog Trainer!" [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,sans-serif]
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[FONT=Verdana,sans-serif]Here are the facts about defending yourself against a dog attack. [/FONT]

- If the dog is a trained personal protection or police dog and it is a good specimen: You have no chance. All of this nonsense about kicking the dog at the right time is baloney. Your best chance of surviving is to stand absolutely still. If you are unarmed, and you try to fight the dog, you will lose. The dog is fast enough to bite you two or three times before you even realize where you've been bit. And by then... it's over.

Anyone who does not believe me can contact me, and we will outfit you with a padded suit and you can give it your best shot.

 

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I've had and been around dogs my whole life, I have walked dogs my whole life, and I was never attacked. I was approached once by a aggressive dog that I felt might get a little nuts while walking my dogs. A small shot of pepper spray on the snout drove him away. In a few other instances I just stood my ground and there was no problem.

One time I've had a dog rush me. Well, not even me actually. It was coming after my dog. It was an old miserable bitch that that just went apeshit anytime someone walked in the street past the house. One time it got out the front door and made a beeline for my dog (who's a Rhodesian twice this dogs size). As the dog got close to engaging mine, I caught it with an NFL style field goal kick right in the ribs. It yelped and ran back to it's house. I really didn't want my dog getting engaged and having to deal with that aftermath.
 

lokiju

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I'd kick it has hard, fast and often as I could until it latched on then go for the kill. Wind pipe, smash head, eyes, etc.
 

JTsyo

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Anyone who does not believe me can contact me, and we will outfit you with a padded suit and you can give it your best shot.

:hmm: Might be kind of fun.
 

SP33Demon

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May sound unorthodox, but go for its gag reflex. That means shoving your fist down its throat as far down as you can. Try it sometime and see what the dog does. I've controlled some huge dogs by doing this. Yes, you will get bit but there is nothing they can do when they're gagging. It will allow you to pin it on the ground where it's helpless.

Of course this only works with dogs that have big mouths, little yap yaps you just punt like a football.
 

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I think the best answer is always ↑, ↑, ↓, ↓, ←, →, ←, →, B, A.
 

sygyzy

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Has anyone ever seen or watched a person fight off a large (pitbull) dog attack successfully, without the use of a firearm or large weapon? I don't think I've ever heard of this happening.
 
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