How to Fix America! - Sell Alaska to China

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FoBoT

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i thought china owned $800 Billion in US treasuries, not $2 trillion
but either price is too low for Alaska, it is worth more in the long run for its natural resources
 
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PJABBER

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i thought china owned $800 million in US treasuries, not $2 trillion
but either price is too low for Alaska, it is worth more in the long run for its natural resources

Make that Billions with a capital B and you are getting close.

China holds in excess of $800 Billion of U.S. debt. Japan, around $750 Billion.

http://www.treas.gov/tic/mfh.txt
 

waggy

No Lifer
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Why?

Let THEM pump all the oil?

We should just drill for the damn oil; the US gov will get about half (as usual) of the money in royalties.

Fern

well Obama is a Il politician. that would fit in with how they do business.

Chicago sold the rights to parking meters to a company for over 1 billion for the next 75 years. So what did the company do? doubled the cost of meters (in some it went up 5 times the amount) and is now making a fucking killing on the meters.
 

Blackjack200

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Make that Billions with a capital B and you are getting close.

China holds in excess of $800 Billion of U.S. debt. Japan, around $750 Billion.

http://www.treas.gov/tic/mfh.txt

Yet we never hear about that... hmmm...

I never understood the "China holds our debt! China holds our debt!" hysteria. I don't care if I owe my mortgage to Wells Fargo or Bank of America. In fact, if anything it helps align our interests with China, since inflation of our currency would be very bad for them.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
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well Obama is a Il politician. that would fit in with how they do business.

Chicago sold the rights to parking meters to a company for over 1 billion for the next 75 years. So what did the company do? doubled the cost of meters (in some it went up 5 times the amount) and is now making a fucking killing on the meters.

This is exactly why NJ residents didn't want the state gov. to "monetize" the turnpike and parkway tolls.
 

IGBT

Lifer
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better yet. sell california. it's trashed out with reckless liberals and eco-KOOKS and up to their arse in financial alligators.
 

PJABBER

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I'm almost certain this word is used wrong... although I haven't read it or used it enough myself to be sure.

RETICENT

Main Entry: ret·i·cent
Pronunciation: \-sənt\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin reticent-, reticens, present participle of reticēre to keep silent, from re- + tacēre to be silent — more at tacit
Date: circa 1834

1 : inclined to be silent or uncommunicative in speech : reserved
2 : restrained in expression, presentation, or appearance <the room has an aspect of reticent dignity — A. N. Whitehead>
3 : reluctant
synonyms see silent

— ret·i·cent·ly adverb
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Even if we could sell it and completely wipe our debt, our politicians would look at it as a multitrillion dollar credit card and run it right back up to it's limit.
 

fskimospy

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I'm almost certain this word is used wrong... although I haven't read it or used it enough myself to be sure.

It was definitely used wrong. Being reticent means to be quiet, to not talk. Being reticent in considering would mean that you were not speaking while considering something (probably a good idea). Doesn't make much sense as a sentence though. You would think a 50 something year old like him would have nailed this one down by now. Then again, most people probably would think that a 50 year old man would know how to formulate an opinion that wasn't cut and pasted from an ultra right wing editorial.

I don't really know what this thread is about as I long ago put PJABBER on ignore, but I did notice that he's really outdoing himself today in clogging up the front page. (6 threads and counting so far).
 

Schadenfroh

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Even if we could sell it and completely wipe our debt, our politicians would look at it as a multitrillion dollar credit card and run it right back up to it's limit.

Yep, but we would probably have an easier time selling them a pass to invade Taiwan.
 

UberNeuman

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We can't sell Alaska to China! Putin has been rearing his head over it for some time, so he's got dibs...

/oh yeah, ya betcha!
 

ebaycj

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Can't we sell them Canada instead?

This is a much better idea:

Sell to Canada, get $$$ to pay China back.
Pay China back.
Take over Canada.
Ship all the Canadians to Mexico to pay Mexico back for years of Illegal immigration.
Problem solved.
 
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piasabird

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This is an idiotic idea. Alaska is full of national resources. Why give up oil and fertile fishing grounds and all of our bases that we use to intercept any possible threats coming in from the west like Russia and China. Alaska is a really important strategical piece of landscape. Do you know anything about our strategical defense? Are you really that ignorant?

The mountainous regions are probably also full of mining reserves as well.
 

Patranus

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This is an idiotic idea. Alaska is full of national resources. Why give up oil and fertile fishing grounds and all of our bases that we use to intercept any possible threats coming in from the west like Russia and China. Alaska is a really important strategical piece of landscape. Do you know anything about our strategical defense? Are you really that ignorant?

The mountainous regions are probably also full of mining reserves as well.

The problem is that the federal government is too ignorant to develop Americas own natural resources.
 

piasabird

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Do you know how much in Federal Gas Tax Alaska pays? Do you really want to kiss that goodbye?
 

glenn1

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This is an idiotic idea. Alaska is full of national resources. Why give up oil and fertile fishing grounds and all of our bases that we use to intercept any possible threats coming in from the west like Russia and China. Alaska is a really important strategical piece of landscape. Do you know anything about our strategical defense? Are you really that ignorant?

The mountainous regions are probably also full of mining reserves as well.

No kidding. You don't sell the cash producing assets while keeping the money losing liabilities. Maybe for a small payment for services, China will take money sinkholes like Michigan and its sh!tty auto companies off our hands so that we'll have one less money pit that we're throwing $ into.
 

PJABBER

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It was definitely used wrong. Being reticent means to be quiet, to not talk. Being reticent in considering would mean that you were not speaking while considering something (probably a good idea). Doesn't make much sense as a sentence though. You would think a 50 something year old like him would have nailed this one down by now. Then again, most people probably would think that a 50 year old man would know how to formulate an opinion that wasn't cut and pasted from an ultra right wing editorial.

I don't really know what this thread is about as I long ago put PJABBER on ignore, but I did notice that he's really outdoing himself today in clogging up the front page. (6 threads and counting so far).

Ha! I did use it correctly, but employed it in the sense of the 2d and 3d definitions quoted above. Which you would see if you did not have me on ignore. You do so at the cost of seeming foolish and incapable of understanding references made in the course of a thread. Which you admit to above, and which I can comment about at will because you have no idea that I am!

Not only am I catching up on posting today, but I have written close to twenty pages of dialogue for a screenplay I am helping out with!

Caffeine, my friend, caffeine!
 

Ryan711

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Sell them Texas. It would solve so many problems for us.

smart idea moron, sell off a state that contributes to 10% of the GDP and refines a disproportionate amount of this country's oil. Are people really this stupid?
 

ebaycj

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smart idea moron, sell off a state that contributes to 10% of the GDP and refines a disproportionate amount of this country's oil. Are people really this stupid?

I'm certain he was at least partially kidding.

99% of Texas is a shithole though.
 

fallout man

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