how to make Athlon 64 3500+ as fast as P4 3.4GHz @ Video encoding

sunilv

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I just built a new machine

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 90nm
Asus A8N-SLi Deluxe
1GB OCZ Premier
Leadtek Geforce 6600 GT
WD 200 SATA harddrive

I updated all the drivers. Games are fantastic on this machine:thumbsup::laugh: (far cry)

but how do i make this machine as fast as P4 3.4 GHz at video encoding

is it possible? do i have to increase RAM? update anything?will the new 64bit OS help?


thanks
 

DoC91383

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Heh, am i the only one that thinks this thread should be called " How do i start a flame war?"
 

sunilv

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my intention is not to start a war

i am a newbie and i just have a question

please do not post any arguments or so called "war starting" comments


I just need advise and help

thanks
 

DanDaMan315

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Isn't an Intel an Intel, and an AMD an AMD? AMD is superior in almost every area, except for possibly video encoding, but I don't believe that you can change your processor to magicallly be superior in something that it was never meant to be superior in.
 

DaveSimmons

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You can't. The CPU is the bottleneck, slow point, chokepoint, limiting factor, cause of why turtlelarity will ensue.

Your CPU is as good at encoding as at least a P4 2.8 GHz, so it's still pretty fast.

If encoding is the most important thing in the world to you, either buy a second computer or sell the A64. Just remember that the P4 3.6 you buy will be as slow as an A64 2800+ - 3000+ in some recent games.
 

sunilv

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does addding more ram improve it or not?

AMD stills rocks at games, no doubt, no doubt!
 

mUcHiLuS

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you can do a little bit effort, making a OC to the processor, i'm very sure if you push little higher your FSB will kick ass intel 3.4

try to push the fsb to 226 or 233 to get better results on your entirely bandwithd in the system.
 

Bateluer

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I doubt you can make it as fast as a 3.4Ghz P4, but with fast supporting hardware and the most optimized video encoding you can find, you can probably come close.
 

Jeff7181

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You could overclock it...

I'm not sure what kind of video encoding you're doing... but xvid is usually faster on AMD processors I think. So if you're using divx now, you could switch to xvid.
 

Tiamat

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Overclock your 3500+. I dont know if you can match the encode performance of a 3.6 but you can get close. You should look at 300mhz "fsb" and probably at least 2.4 ghz. It would probably help if you could pull 2700mhz, but i dont know if that is possible without exotic cooling.
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: thunderroller
aditional ram and overclock can help you
Read the specs before posting :roll: -- sunilv already has 1 GB, more RAM will not help.

Overclocking will help if the overclocked system is 100% stable, otherwise the faster encoding could produce corrupted files. But to match a 3.4 GHz P4 will require around a 20% overclock.

will the new 64bit OS help?
Maybe, if there is a 64-bit version of the program you are using.
 

sandorski

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Once Win64 and a 64bit version of an Encoding app comes out, it will likely be as fast if not faster.
 

MScrip

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If you're serious about video encoding, you might wanna invest in a real-time video editing accelerator. The Matrox RT.X100 is a PCI card that encodes MPEG2 in real-time, allowing you to edit video without having to wait for it to render/encode. You'll be more productive going straight from editing to burning DVDs.

It's expensive, starting at $999. But... the results are remarkable. Even with the newest, fastest processers... you'll still never get real-time encoding.

Matrox RT.X100
 

NightCrawler

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Originally posted by: MScrip
If you're serious about video encoding, you might wanna invest in a real-time video editing accelerator. The Matrox RT.X100 is a PCI card that encodes MPEG2 in real-time, allowing you to edit video without having to wait for it to render/encode. You'll be more productive going straight from editing to burning DVDs.

It's expensive, starting at $999. But... the results are remarkable. Even with the newest, fastest processers... you'll still never get real-time encoding.

Matrox RT.X100


That's the way you do It !!!
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: sunilv
I just built a new machine

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 90nm
Asus A8N-SLi Deluxe
1GB OCZ Premier
Leadtek Geforce 6600 GT
WD 200 SATA harddrive

I updated all the drivers. Games are fantastic on this machine:thumbsup::laugh: (far cry)

but how do i make this machine as fast as P4 3.4 GHz at video encoding

is it possible? do i have to increase RAM? update anything?will the new 64bit OS help?


thanks



I have done extensive testing and I can tellyou for the most part my 2.66ghz A64 is better in encoding in about half of my apps and equal in a few more highly HT opitmised ones....

The p4e's seem to be a bit better at encoding ot equal to their northwood brother so I would say you will need 2.5-2.6ghz......so it looks like a combination of ocing and low latency (highest bandwidth you can get with Low latency) can get you to equal it....

Ofcourse the gaming will just get better and better and likely better then anything P4 has out now....


ONe should be careful of comparing such things considering you proably can get a 3.4 to 3.8ghz, albeit with more cooling then the A64 needs but then really you couldn't equal it with current oced A64'S.....
 

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Lifer
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Your best bet is to just use programs that normally work faster with AMD processors.
 
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