How to Solve #OscarsSoWhite Controversy

[gururu2]

Absolutely love to watch award shows when I can catch them. I have always loved Hollywood and the movies, and like to put faces to the music on the radio. Its strange the way this years nominations were so colorless. I guess we can all think the way Meryl Streep does, that is that "We are all Africans."

 

[werepossum]

There simply were no good black movies good enough to be nominated. Sorry. Will Smith and others should have acted better in Concussion (and other movies) if they want to claim faux outrage.

One small point here: Will Smith is NOT claiming outrage; that's his no-talent wife. Will Smith actually pointed out that every time he's been nominated, he's never been beaten by a white man. (And his chances are now looking real good for 2016 . . .)

Anyway, this has already been fixed. The SAG Awards were given out to every black person nominated, thereby "proving" that they aren't racist for nominating all white people. And anyway, anyone who cares about how any industry hands out awards to itself is kinda messed up.

 

[Imp]

Anyway, this has already been fixed. The SAG Awards were given out to every black person nominated, thereby "proving" that they aren't racist for nominating all white people. And anyway, anyone who cares about how any industry hands out awards to itself is kinda messed up.

You, sir, do not like sitting in circles and jerking things.

 

[Imp]

Never bring up facts that could potentially make other minorities feel marginalized. I would go as far as to say, facts, reality and truth, are so ridiculously racist, that they all should be banned from society.

It helps that Asians are only ~5% of the American population, and that there are almost 3 billion Indians and Chinese back home. These two groups alone have humungulous film industries with their own awards. Also, I think that 5% includes all Asians from Chinese to Japanese to Koreans to Indians. That means the sub-groups are even smaller sub-populations in America so there's less expectation to be seen/recognized.

Hispanics have their own thing in Central/South America.

I don't think Africa has film industries or awards on the same scale as the groups above...

 

[gururu2]

Asian Americans have the highest per capita of millionaires and make the highest income.

http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-millionaire-odds/

http://www.scpr.org/blogs/economy/2014/09/22/17333/asian-have-highest-income-in-the-u-s-study-says/

The shocking thing here is that African Chinese and Mexican Chinese have the second and third highest per capita of millionaires in China with American Chinese being first. Why do you figure?

 

[Svnla]

The shocking thing here is that African Chinese and Mexican Chinese have the second and third highest per capita of millionaires in China with American Chinese being first. Why do you figure?

African chinese?

 

[StrangerGuy]

"Hey guys, let's keep playing the SJW race card, it will never get old right? RIGHT?!"

I'm not white BTW.

 

[purbeast0]

the day that there is no mention of a race when talking about winners of some arbitrary award, regardless of all the winners being white, black, or pink, is the day that the problem will be solved. unfortunately that day is nowhere close.

 

[Aikouka]

I thought that Screen Junkies took an interesting and arguably better approach to this topic on an episode of Movie Fights. Rather than just sit there and toss out names of good, non-white actors, the debate topic was to name what was snubbed and who/what shouldn't have been nominated in that category. In other words, the former should replace the latter in the nominations. What I liked is that it took a far more logical approach to looking at the nominations, and it doesn't simply prop up an actor because of their race.

Surprisingly, given how most of the people on Screen Junkies brandish their liberal opinions on their sleeves (to note, I really dislike political opinion in my non-political media), only one person mentioned a black person being snubbed (Samuel L. Jackson in Hateful Eight). I think his person to remove was Bryan Cranston for Trumbo.

 

[gururu2]

the day that there is no mention of a race when talking about winners of some arbitrary award, regardless of all the winners being white, black, or pink, is the day that the problem will be solved. unfortunately that day is nowhere close.

I disagree. I think any form of discrimination needs to be called out for what it is. Race, creed, gender, religion, anything.

 

[dainthomas]

Where are the Asians omg

Or Native Americans? Why does the academy hate Native Americans?

 

[dainthomas]

African chinese?

Apparently "too beaucoup" is not really an issue.

 

[Rakehellion]

Highly relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJy_OU1DPcg

 

[QueBert]

Highly relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJy_OU1DPcg

Let John Wayne play a real life person like Genghis Khan ? No big deal. Let a black actress play the fucking made up book character Annie? The shit hit the fan.

 

[Aikouka]

Let John Wayne play a real life person like Genghis Khan ? No big deal. Let a black actress play the fucking made up book character Annie? The shit hit the fan.

The Conqueror is 60 years old. Annie is 2 years old. Comparing the two is just asinine. Now, as even mentioned in the Last Week Tonight segment, the movie Aloha received a ton of flak for casting Emma Stone as a quarter-Hawaiian, quarter-Chinese woman, so it's not like there isn't any blowback in this day and age.

What about taking a look at the statistics on actors in Hollywood?
http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2016/01/film-and-race

 

[Anubis]

Except there are awards for directing, cinematography, costume design and about two dozen other categories and no black nominees for the last two years. I don't know how many they nominate for each category, but it has to be at least two, right? So out of about 100+ positions, none of them were filled by black candidates. That's quite the statistical anomaly.

not really, that depends on what % of those positions are actually staffed by non white persons

 

[soulcougher73]

If you're not good enough you just need to try harder. Whiners.

 

[momeNt]

The single most disturbing aspect of this entire movement is that a single group of people were able to be singled out, and cast as the villains of this whole thing, by simply giving them a euphemism.

Call a Jew a "Hollywood Executive" and you can say whatever you want about them.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Is there a list of 'snubs' and which nominee they should replace?

Example:

Will Smith - snubbed

Who should he replace?

 

[Aharami]

Asian Americans have the highest per capita of millionaires and make the highest income.

http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-millionaire-odds/

http://www.scpr.org/blogs/economy/2014/09/22/17333/asian-have-highest-income-in-the-u-s-study-says/

per capita, yes. But if you look at top wealthiest XX list, it's mostly white

 

[stlc8tr]

The Conqueror is 60 years old. Annie is 2 years old. Comparing the two is just asinine. Now, as even mentioned in the Last Week Tonight segment, the movie Aloha received a ton of flak for casting Emma Stone as a quarter-Hawaiian, quarter-Chinese woman, so it's not like there isn't any blowback in this day and age.

What about taking a look at the statistics on actors in Hollywood?
http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2016/01/film-and-race

Sure there was some flak but compared that with what the actors in Episode 7 and Fantastic Four got when their characters were revealed. No contest.

 

[PokerGuy]

There's nothing to "solve", because nobody has actually demonstrated any real issue.

 

[QueBert]

Sure there was some flak but compared that with what the actors in Episode 7 and Fantastic Four got when their characters were revealed. No contest.

LOL the black storm trooper was epic, I never figured Star Wars nerds to be the closet racist/redneck type. But apparently they are.

 

[Ackmed]

Is there a list of 'snubs' and which nominee they should replace?

Example:

Will Smith - snubbed

Who should he replace?

The answer is, nobody. Which everyone actually knows, but still wants to cry about something. There is no other actor that he should replace, not this year with that movie. So what other movie/actor then? Creed, Straight Outta Compton? No and no. Both were good movies, not Oscar worthy imo. I did really enjoy Compton because I grew up in that time and remember, so I felt somewhat connected. I liked Creed because like Compton, I grew up on Rocky's, so I felt connected again. Neither film or any actor was Oscar worthy to me. While I did enjoy both very much.

I know your question was sarcastic/rhetorical but answered it anyways.

Sam Smith won best new artist at the BET awards a few months ago.

He's not the best new artist imo, and he's not black. Not only does BET nominate white people who are undeserving, but they actually have white people winning too. And Sam's not the only example.

Oh look at that, in your opinion hes not the best new artist. Well in the people who picked the nominations Smith wasn't good enough. So you can have an opinion but they can't. Except theirs is the only that matters. Comparing the two is silly. One is a channel directed towards black people, hence the name of it. There is no channel like it for white people. If there was a WET, there would be hell to pay. I understand how BET came about, because when it first came out black people could hardly get on TV at all. Things are not like they were now. Just as if there was a White Miss America, while there is a Black Miss America. I don't care either way, except its hypocritical. Complaining about segregation while segregating themselves is just dumb.

Yes Sam Smith and others have won awards on BET awards. It's also music and not acting. And as I said, not the same thing. Why don't you research the history of nominations and winners for the last 20 years, then compare to the percentage of blacks in acting. Even better, the last 4 years. Then get back to us about how unfair it is, when blacks have been nominated and won at a much higher percentage than the demographics of black actors.

Meanwhile, there is real shit to be upset about. Like how a 6 year old was gunned down in Miami 2 days ago. The community isn't helping, because of the "no snitch" rule there. Why don't isn't there a "sit in" for this child, why aren't they boycotting for this tragedy? Kid outside playing, gets killed by stray gunfire. And not the first time recently either. But no, lets cry about a damn award for a movie. Which is up to opinion and not facts.

 

[LogicBoard]

One more thing to think about is maybe having more roles cast as minorities. That will level the nomination playing field.