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MrSquished

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Are you insane? Spending all your time worrying about them ignores the threat posed by the Deep State and The Caravan!
Apparently you should be worried about big buildings too. Like the one Matt Damon just spent 16 million in to buy a penthouse, now the most expensive real estate deal in Brooklyn. In a high-rise building. They had to use cranes to get trees up there for his outdoor patio. He's really going to be slumming it in there. Cuz that's what happens when you make big buildings

High rises. Election stealing Antifa. BLM. Shoplifters. CRT teaching teachers! Potsmokers. Immigrants that are not white. Communists and socialists neverywhere. The gays!

I'm surprised these conservatives leave their homes.

Meanwhile I'm near anarchist NYC having a good time oblivious to the chaos around and above me. Kamikaze Anarchist immigrants jumping off of high rise slums in midtown Manhattan trying to kill me with their bodies.

I should start bringing an umbrella with me everywhere I think. For safety's sake
 
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fskimospy

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Apparently you should be worried about big buildings too. Like the one Matt Damon just spent 16 million in to buy a penthouse, now the most expensive real estate deal in Brooklyn. In a high-rise building. They had to use cranes to get trees up there for his outdoor patio. He's really going to be slumming it in there. Cuz that's what happens when you make big buildings

High rises. Election stealing Antifa. BLM. Shoplifters. CRT teaching teachers! Potsmokers. Immigrants that are not white. Communists and socialists neverywhere. The gays!

I'm surprised these conservatives leave their homes.

Meanwhile I'm near anarchist NYC having a good time oblivious to the chaos around and above me. Kamikaze Anarchist immigrants jumping off of high rise slums in midtown Manhattan trying to kill me with their bodies.

I should start bringing an umbrella with me everywhere I think. For safety's sake
I live in Park Slope, which is a very wealthy area. While it’s not dense for NYC it’s much denser that almost any other city in America. I should tell all these doctors and lawyers to stop living in the slums.
 

JD50

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Apparently you should be worried about big buildings too. Like the one Matt Damon just spent 16 million in to buy a penthouse, now the most expensive real estate deal in Brooklyn. In a high-rise building. They had to use cranes to get trees up there for his outdoor patio. He's really going to be slumming it in there. Cuz that's what happens when you make big buildings

High rises. Election stealing Antifa. BLM. Shoplifters. CRT teaching teachers! Potsmokers. Immigrants that are not white. Communists and socialists neverywhere. The gays!

I'm surprised these conservatives leave their homes.

Meanwhile I'm near anarchist NYC having a good time oblivious to the chaos around and above me. Kamikaze Anarchist immigrants jumping off of high rise slums in midtown Manhattan trying to kill me with their bodies.

I should start bringing an umbrella with me everywhere I think. For safety's sake

Damn, sucks for Matt Damon, too bad he couldn't afford a single family home like every single person in the world apparently wants.
 
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JD50

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It's not that he doesn't really believe it, it's that like most conservatives, he is unable to put himself in someone else's shoes. HE wouldn't want to live in high density housing, so naturally in his world no one else would want to live in high density housing.

what kinda person would want to live in high density housing? the kind of person that HAS TO! You can choose a house or a apartment with 10000 neighbors you pass by as you enter your house why would you choose the gauntlet?

Case in point.
 
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MrSquished

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I live in Park Slope, which is a very wealthy area. While it’s not dense for NYC it’s much denser that almost any other city in America. I should tell all these doctors and lawyers to stop living in the slums.
Park slope is gorgeous. What are the lot sizes there on average for those brownstones? Around by me a full lot size is 25x100. I was going to guess they're probably the same.

There is a fantastic ramen joint in Park slope, one of the best in the city I've tried so far. If you haven't been, check it out. Ramen danbo.
 

Moonbeam

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The beauty of high density living is that you don't need to know your neighbors and can have nothing to do with them. You can have the greatest love for humanity and utter contempt for people. You can even hold the deplorables on the farms who feed you in contempt. Meanwhile all over the globe there are schools or architecture and design striving to bring farming and nature into the city. It seems that apes have this inner yearning to live in trees. I wonder when the territorial wars between apartment buildings for open space will begin. Maybe when most of the rest of the planet is dead.

You know what they say about a tiger that has been kept for years in a cage and the bars are taken away. Ask him if he likes life in a cage.

Too many camel bones and you forget what a real camel looks like. A saying

How would anybody know their hearts desire who has learned the terror of feeling?
 

MrSquished

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Case in point.

Maybe Killster lives in a quiet mostly white suburban single family zoned area is my guess. In Texas, probably conservative. Maybe deep down he realizes how shitty those people are and would not want to live in an apartment building full of them in closer quarters.

I mean I can relate to that.
 
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Moonbeam

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Any post that does not advocate locking up thieves is a pro crime post.
They don't lock up thieves in Saudi Arabia and they have an astoundingly low theft rate. But I would wager one would not have see a lot of theft among Tibetan monks a hundred years ago.

There is, in my opinion only one sure cure for theft and it is personal pride, the knowledge and capacity and experience of successfully supporting one's self legally. Nobody with real self respect would steal and do not only out of fear, you will have no idea what I am talking about.
 

MrSquished

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Damn, sucks for Matt Damon, too bad he couldn't afford a single family home like every single person in the world apparently wants.

Just another dumb liberal, you can fool them into thinking they enjoy a lifestyle then charge them 16 million to live in a slum. Dumbass liberals.
 

fskimospy

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Park slope is gorgeous. What are the lot sizes there on average for those brownstones? Around by me a full lot size is 25x100. I was going to guess they're probably the same.

There is a fantastic ramen joint in Park slope, one of the best in the city I've tried so far. If you haven't been, check it out. Ramen danbo.
Good question, I don’t know the lot size as I’ve never tried to buy one, haha. I will happily take your ramen suggestion though, I’m a big fan.
 

MrSquished

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Good question, I don’t know the lot size as I’ve never tried to buy one, haha. I will happily take your ramen suggestion though, I’m a big fan.

Yeah you'd need at least 3 million to even get a foot in the door at a brownstone there down in the slums of Park Slope

When you go to Danbo, just add more pork to the basic soup, the pork portion is small, but the price reflects that. But everything is great, the noodles, the broth and the pork, and the egg is perfectly cooked. Every element is excellent.
 

railer

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yeah, jail is such a huge deterrent we have 20% of the world's prisoners but only ~4.5% of its population. seems to be working reeeeeal well here.
But it did work. This problem didn't exist before police became less proactive, and criminals started getting appearance tickets (if they were even caught) instead of an immediate stint in jail.
That's the biggest difference between now and and a couple years ago when this problem really didn't exist to this extent.
I don't really care how the prison rate in the US compares to the rest of the world. Locking crooks up does dissuade crime. I have seen no real other solutions in this thread.
"Ending income inequality" is one of those slogans that's a good idea and completely ridiculous at the same time. I think most slogans are like that.
 

MrSquished

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But it did work. This problem didn't exist before police became less proactive, and criminals started getting appearance tickets (if they were even caught) instead of an immediate stint in jail.
That's the biggest difference between now and and a couple years ago when this problem really didn't exist to this extent.
I don't really care how the prison rate in the US compares to the rest of the world. Locking crooks up does dissuade crime. I have seen no real other solutions in this thread.
"Ending income inequality" is one of those slogans that's a good idea and completely ridiculous at the same time. I think most slogans are like that.
You are ignorant like all conservatives. Yes there are bad apples in the world, they will always be criminals, but inequality is a big part of crime. To not understand that you have to have no critical thinking skills.

Look at crime rates in western Europe vs the US, and violent crime rates. Big big difference. Two to four times worse here in most cases.

But conservatives hate the thought of a more equitable society and well trained cops and a non prejudiced justice system against the poor and minorities. I mean it honestly bothers them.

This is why I don't like conservatives. Just bad hombres.

A thief may break into my car and rob me, and I am against that, but a conservative is robbing me of a better society and country. Much worse.
 

Moonbeam

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But it did work. This problem didn't exist before police became less proactive, and criminals started getting appearance tickets (if they were even caught) instead of an immediate stint in jail.
That's the biggest difference between now and and a couple years ago when this problem really didn't exist to this extent.
I don't really care how the prison rate in the US compares to the rest of the world. Locking crooks up does dissuade crime. I have seen no real other solutions in this thread.
"Ending income inequality" is one of those slogans that's a good idea and completely ridiculous at the same time. I think most slogans are like that.
I have no problem with what you say. What I have a problem with is the likely assumption you have that you see the situation fully, that because you can see no solution one does not exist. And are you open to learning differently, considering scientific studies that might suggest that the stresses of income inequality, poverty really, when mitigated affect the crime statistics? Are you patient enough to allow for that fact that any solution may not take effect immediately?
 

MrSquished

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I have no problem with what you say. What I have a problem with is the likely assumption you have that you see the situation fully, that because you can see no solution one does not exist. And are you open to learning differently, considering scientific studies that might suggest that the stresses of income inequality, poverty really, when mitigated affect the crime statistics? Are you patient enough to allow for that fact that any solution may not take effect immediately?
Many conservatives think poverty, systemic judicial and economic prejudice, have nothing to do with crime. Quite a few think it has to do with being black and brown though.
 
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HomerJS

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I'm wondering why the OP has little concern about the ongoing attempts to steal Democracy from this country?
 
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Moonbeam

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Many conservatives think poverty, systemic judicial and economic prejudice, have nothing to do with crime. Quite a few think it has to do with being black and brown though.
I didn’t see in railer’s post that I replied to any antipathy toward increasing economic injustice even for people of color. What I thought he was saying is that such policies won’t fix this issue of mob crime. Personally, I hear that as a personal opinion for which I, myself, have no evidence.
 
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The turds doing these grabs and not poor or disadvantaged snatching something for a quick fix. They are organized gangs with high tech communication and planning. Arrests so far have yielded large scale operations with thousands of items stored and some of the items listed for sale on high end consignment websites.

At least one was an mid-upper class white woman running essentially a resale business out of her home.
 

cytg111

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who do we think is committing these robberies and how do we stop them?

take away mask mandates and bring back jail time?



its going to eventually ruin in person shopping if it cant be controlled / countered.


When i went to a Walgreens in Vegas i watched people just casually taking items in front of the security guard and walking out, he didn't seem to be able to stop any of it, but about 90% of the items in the store over 5$ where under lock and key in lil display cases (which would not stop a mob of course), In SF they are closing most of the Walgreens because of this rampant theft/.

if there is already a thread you can delete / move this one.
You need to hold them accountable… or they will do it again and it will spread… here watch this

 
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MrSquished

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I didn’t see in railer’s post that I replied to any antipathy toward increasing economic injustice even for people of color. What I thought he was saying is that such policies won’t fix this issue of mob crime. Personally, I hear that as a personal opinion for which I, myself, have no evidence.
He made a general statement about crime will not be reduced with less inequality. I think this goes beyond just this one type of crime.
 

Moonbeam

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He made a general statement about crime will not be reduced with less inequality. I think this goes beyond just this one type of crime.
The point I was making to you was that typically, among conservatives who do as you suggest, deny a connection between economic injustice and criminal behavior, there lies behind that belief, additionally, a hostility to doing anything about such injustice. For that reason I felt you were putting him in a box he had already given evidence he didn’t fit. I have no truck with the description you gave of many who are conservatives, or even if further reply to the questions I asked and he has not yet answered, would reveal him to fit that box, only that in the post I questioned him about, he gave just the opposite indication, that he is for doing something about economic injustice even though he believes it will not fix the kind of crime on which the OP, intended to focuses.
 
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