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hal2kilo

Lifer
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The turds doing these grabs and not poor or disadvantaged snatching something for a quick fix. They are organized gangs with high tech communication and planning. Arrests so far have yielded large scale operations with thousands of items stored and some of the items listed for sale on high end consignment websites.

At least one was an mid-upper class white woman running essentially a resale business out of her home.
Someone is buying. Just like someone is buying catalytic converters. Those are the criminals. Oh, and people who think buying stuff out of someones trunk, is A OK.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Add to the discussion:
SFGate: Chesa Boudin: We’re blaming the wrong things for San Francisco retail theft.
Headline misrepresents the DA's op ed. He never said, "We’re blaming the wrong things for San Francisco retail theft."

What he ACTUALLY said...
Organized retail theft is not a problem that can be addressed solely by law enforcement solutions — which come after a crime has been committed.

Which is 100% true.
 

dank69

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Any post that does not advocate locking up thieves is a pro crime post.
I think you meant any post that advocates not locking up thieves, of which I don't see any. Otherwise a post about a graphics card would be a pro-crime post according to you.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Whataboutism
It shows you don't really give 2 shits about crime. You only care about crime when it serves the purpose of having a boogeyman to distract people from the greater threat.

What is more devastating to the country, having some designer watches stolen or having the Democracy stolen?

Having said that I still want the smash and grabbers prosecuted but what is going on with the vote is a much greater threat.
 
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MrSquished

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It shows you don't really give 2 shits about crime. You only care about crime when it serves the purpose of having a boogeyman to distract people from the greater threat.

What be more devastating to the country, having some designer watches stolen or having the Democracy stolen?

Having said that I still want the smash and grabbers prosecuted but what is going on with the vote is a much greater threat.
Exactly. And I'd like plenty of police. Just much better trained and accountable police.
 
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hal2kilo

Lifer
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Meanwhile domestic violence is even more out of control.

The real crime wave that Fox News is ignoring: Domestic violence has increased drastically | Salon.com

Tune into right-wing America's favorite network, and you'd get the strong impression that leaving your house, especially in any major city, is the equivalent of walking into a war zone, with hosts raving about "coast-to-coast crime crisis" and suggesting it's impossible to walk "down the street in any major liberal city" without getting murdered lots. When a mentally ill homeless man set fire to the Fox News Christmas tree, this was taken as the ultimate proof that life in American cities is like living in Sarajevo in the early 90s, with hosts screeching that "no city is safe" and "no person is safe" from the supposed onslaught of "random violence."

There is, however, another contributing factor to rising crime rates that Fox News is largely ignoring because it's not useful for scaring your grandma: Domestic violence.

While property crime and even other assaults actually remain low, the incidents of people attacking intimate partners appear to be skyrocketing. Considering that intimate partner violence typically accounts for around 15% of all violent crime, this explosion of violence is bound to have a significant impact on the overall picture of violent crime in the U.S. Because national statistics tend to take time to collect and thus lag behind by a couple of years, it's hard to get hard numbers from the bird's eye view, though sociologists have estimated that domestic violence went up over 8% due to the pandemic. Statistics are coming in from around the country suggest that picture may be even grimmer than that.
 

killster1

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Add to the discussion:
SFGate: Chesa Boudin: We’re blaming the wrong things for San Francisco retail theft.
wow great fluff article he goes in every direction almost like hes in a elected position and is worried what people might think of a true opinion. my favorite part was

"Affordable housing, quality education, access to health care and addiction services can provide the stability that empirical evidence has shown actually deters criminal activity."

while yes i agree it does lower crimes but does not change crime of high end items. i guess we have found a solution /sortof.. items glued down (ruined if removed) and a once pay, a locker opens system? how about robots that work at the stores that can perform citizen's arrest (dang a robot most likely isnt a citizen)
 

killster1

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It shows you don't really give 2 shits about crime. You only care about crime when it serves the purpose of having a boogeyman to distract people from the greater threat.

What is more devastating to the country, having some designer watches stolen or having the Democracy stolen?

Having said that I still want the smash and grabbers prosecuted but what is going on with the vote is a much greater threat.
frankly i never said i cared about anything unless you can quote me.. i just wanted to have a discussion, just about every discussion in my life was on things i dont care about, you obviously do too because you are here non stop with comments on a thread you think shouldnt exist.

whats more important what i eat for dinner or that you even exist? My dinner so that means go away forever!
 
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The high end stores could afford to install GPS type tracking pods in their items. Remove them for legitimate sales.
 

uclaLabrat

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wow great fluff article he goes in every direction almost like hes in a elected position and is worried what people might think of a true opinion. my favorite part was

"Affordable housing, quality education, access to health care and addiction services can provide the stability that empirical evidence has shown actually deters criminal activity."

while yes i agree it does lower crimes but does not change crime of high end items. i guess we have found a solution /sortof.. items glued down (ruined if removed) and a once pay, a locker opens system? how about robots that work at the stores that can perform citizen's arrest (dang a robot most likely isnt a citizen)
It's almost like he's arguing that addressing the root causes of crime are cheaper and more effective than trying to arrest everyone who's committed petty theft. Same approach as the failed war on drugs.

It's almost like this shit has been studied in detail or something. Weird.
 

JD50

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frankly i never said i cared about anything unless you can quote me.. i just wanted to have a discussion, just about every discussion in my life was on things i dont care about, you obviously do too because you are here non stop with comments on a thread you think shouldnt exist.

whats more important what i eat for dinner or that you even exist? My dinner so that means go away forever!

Translation - Who me?
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
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We're still advocating locking up thieves, just way more interested in ones you give zero fucks about.

Speak with innuendo. Good way to get your message across while ignoring there is someone outside your home stealing your neighbor's catalytic converter to support his dimebag weed habit.
 
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himkhan

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The only people outside stealing my catalytic converter were the lily white meth heads still flying their Trump 2020 flag.

It about time we cracked down on white vs white crime. It's running rampant in our neighborhoods.

Just LAST year we saw the most violent year for crime in recorded history. By all accounts those numbers are down this year.

I wonder what changed.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
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The only people outside stealing my catalytic converter were the lily white meth heads still flying their Trump 2020 flag.

It about time we cracked down on white vs white crime. It's running rampant in our neighborhoods.

Just LAST year we saw the most violent year for crime in recorded history. By all accounts those numbers are down this year.

I wonder what changed.

Crime is crime. Lock them up too.

In the meantime you should probably get help for your dimebag weed habit. Thats the only thing that would blind you to libearl's soft on crime policies.
 
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dank69

Lifer
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Crime is crime. Lock them up too.

In the meantime you should probably get help for your dimebag weed habit. Thats the only thing that would blind you to libearl's soft on crime policies.
Right after you get help for your gambling addiction. It makes you into a disgusting human being.
 
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himkhan

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Crime is crime. Lock them up too.

In the meantime you should probably get help for your dimebag weed habit. Thats the only thing that would blind you to libearl's soft on crime policies.

Working 72 hours a week in the ICU I have no time for your recreational drugs. Most liberals I hear from are very tough on crime and think there should be harsher punishments on crime. Not softer. I have ever heard some liberals say that punishments should include public execution of any government official tried and found guilty of helping to plan and or carry out January 6. That not particularly soft but I am not to blind to know that one guys soft is another man's strong and proud erection.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
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Working 72 hours a week in the ICU I have no time for your recreational drugs. Most liberals I hear from are very tough on crime and think there should be harsher punishments on crime. Not softer. I have ever heard some liberals say that punishments should include public execution of any government official tried and found guilty of helping to plan and or carry out January 6. That not particularly soft but I am not to blind to know that one guys soft is another man's strong and proud erection.

So if we agree its time to clamp down on petty crime, why are we arguing?
 
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