I'll leave it to you same as the other thread to demonstrate what value you place in clear evidence. Eg. GOP excuses for charlottesville, ie. no big deal it's just a few bad apples every conservative here felt compelled to protect for some reason:
So, no quotes, right? Why not?
Because you have to resort to scurrilous characterization to make your point, such as it is.
The whole effort on the part of the White Supremacists is actually pretty pitiful. These guys came from all over the country to participate & only a few hundred did so.
Each one is a one in a million special snowflake...
Thinking one knows the totally obvious is the default conservative brain state. If truth were totally obvious everybody would know it, not just the billions of only ones who think they do. Truth is in fact so totally obvious that it is completely misses by people who make that assumption they just know what it is. You are engaged in a form of low level thinking such that the obvious rolls off your tongue like saliva.
I'll leave it to you same as the other thread to demonstrate what value you place in clear evidence. Eg. GOP excuses for charlottesville, ie. no big deal it's just a few bad apples every conservative here felt compelled to protect for some reason:
@Jhhnn does get hyperbolic and I think in an unaware way.
But was that last part directed to me? I am not a Republican and I do not carry water for the Klan or Nazis. I would be very pleased if Republicans made it crystal clear that these groups are not to be bedfellows, explicitly or implicitly. They have failed to cut them out, and I did not appreciate their size or power, but they should have no support in Washington from anyone.
agent says they are like that because it is to their advantage to be like that, but the advantage must not be seen as a universal because, from where I stand at least, you and many others are not like that. Why do you think honk that is? Why do some practice self deception and are clawless about the hypocrisy they are capable of and others will engage in self examination?
Did I offer anything inaccurate? Did I express sympathy or justification for lame ass White Supremacists or Nazis? Quite the contrary.
I have every confidence that the American People will hold them in check, one way or another, just as we've done since before either of us was born.
America won't buy into their symbols, their rhetoric or their history far enough for them to be more than a nuisance we have to deal with.
They just crawled out of the woodwork as they've done periodically, this time in response to the stench of the execrable Donald Trump.
Isn't that the same argument that is used by Fox News about "Say the words Obama, Radical Islamic Terrorism". From what I recall he finally did say the words.
Can you say more because I really don't understand how these things connect?
You forgot to say obviously. Your post seems so less credible without saying it.Conservatives & friends sure love to play dumb, like pretending they don't know that carrying water for nazis/klan comes at a cost they expect to be repaid. Weren't your liberal pals back when you saw more opportunity with them insisting that you play 4d chess?
You forgot to say obviously. Your post seems so less credible without saying it.
Funny how all the conservatives like in the charlottesville thread were offering all sorts of excuses for their own, such as how there are plenty fine people on both sides. And by funny I mean parody come to life.
That was Trump. I don't recall anybody here claiming that Nazis & White Supremacists were fine people. He still has a lot of 'em chumped, however, so they'll defend him reflexively. They believe in Trump in an entirely irrational way. They fell head over heels into the arms of the Devil.
You want a strong denouncement because you believe that person/group/party supports policies that support the flourishing of a hate group.
Not equivalent at all. This group is actively associating themselves with the Republican party. I don't and didn't fault them for drawing a line before recent events, although I think it would have been better if they did and were more active in preventing campaign donations, etc., but this is quite different.
For example, @agent00f is actively associating me with them, and I am drawing a clear line as a result.
You do a pretty passable job of carrying water for conservatism while trying hard to never get any on yourself.
Fun metaphor. But I think you've mistaken carrying water for humans as carrying water for conservatives. Believe it or not, conservatives are humans too.
It's just not really something that lends itself to deduction. It's like intuit and infer, surely, but i'm not a pychatrist, so who knows. Not psychiatrists. 9/10 psychiatrists make the same mistake, which arouses resentment amongst myselves, and possibly others, for psychiatry. I met a psychiatrist who studied theology, for example. Literally. He said it was in order to learn greek and latin, but I suspect it was because he takes religion a bit too seriously :/Not me. Near as I can deduce, mine comes from not fitting in with peers and thus I had to find a different way of understanding society than the one everyone took for granted. I guess I made lemonade from lemons. Probably wouldn't have tried if I were given an orange like just about everyone else.
Sure, lotta fine people goosestepping in charlottesville, just exercising their first amendment rights no need to be heavy handed. I think you're smart enough to know how this works.
Not equivalent at all. This group is actively associating themselves with the Republican party. I don't and didn't fault them for drawing a line before recent events, although I think it would have been better if they did and were more active in preventing campaign donations, etc., but this is quite different.
For example, @agent00f is actively associating me with them, and I am drawing a clear line as a result.
I do not support, have never supported, nor ever will support white supremacy. I want the groups that due to die off, and I am disgusted by the very notion that there could be political support for them, tacit or otherwise. Their ideology should be granted no legitimacy in government or anywhere else. I would not knowingly patron any business connected to white supremacy.
And I believe that they are not inherently less human than any other. As such, I believe their constitutional rights are valid. But right to free speech does not mean right to be heard. I will draw a line if I am fed their hateful message, but I will always make myself open to hear how their humanity led them to it, and I will not shun them for being human.
Now I have drawn a line here in the message you are feeding me. If you would like instead to examine our humanity and human reasons for having this exchange, I will remain open to hear it, and I promise I will also not shun you for being human. I will only shun the ideas and actions which they have produced.
If you wish otherwise to continue to assert for me beliefs which I do not hold then I will place you on ignore for a while.
They're surely pretty human to act in their self-interests by subjugating lesser ethnicities/genders, just as it seems in your self-interest that they're handled with kiddy gloves.
Just a protip if that you're trying to distinguish yourself from all the other conservatives making all manners of excuses for nazis/klan (they're bad, but...really who are we to judge), best to avoid doing the same yourself least you appear exactly like the rest of the party.
I see you've chosen the ignore function. OK. Maybe things will be different in time. I hope so.
Color me impressed by your devotion to the holy work you do. You sound like one massively suckered chump. Care to name the sacred cause to which you claim agency. Everything about you screams, I want to attract the mentally disturbed among the tech enabled. Shane on you. What you do to others is evil. You are a worthless person.Worth nothing that less mouthy talkback only makes what I do easier.
You just have to stop defending yourself against agent's inane and transparent charges and start sharing him for the deplorable mental illness that grips him. He tries to make others feel bad because he is a sick deplorable who gets off on it. He's just a jacist degenerate who hides it with pretend anti racism so he can get at and insult the real anti racists. Don't be suckered in by his seeming sincerity. He's human garbage. He needs to be put down for the rabid dog that he is, with words of course. No need for more. He has no real life.I see you've chosen the ignore function. OK. Maybe things will be different in time. I hope so.
You just have to stop defending yourself against agent's inane and transparent charges and start sharing him for the deplorable mental illness that grips him. He tries to make others feel bad because he is a sick deplorable who gets off on it. He's just a jacist degenerate who hides it with pretend anti racism so he can get at and insult the real anti racists. Don't be suckered in by his seeming sincerity. He's human garbage. He needs to be put down for the rabid dog that he is, with words of course. No need for more. He has no real life.