How to watercool this rig?

[jambon2006]

Hi, i'll have this setup assembled and watercooled not by myself, i know it would be best, i can learn the ways of watercooling but i cant take the risk of setting it myself, got pretty serious attention disorder, there is just no way i'm installing the watercooling system. Maintenance of it should be fine, the company building it lives pretty close to me and i can do "minor" things, also that setup comes with a 3 years waranty. Anyway its a risk i'm willing to take i guess

Anyway I've gotta tell them how i want it to be cooled, keep in mind the less maintenance there is, the better, same goes for performance
I'm heading towars 2 loop, one for CPU+MOBO, second one for the 3 GPUS, redundant pumps on every loop, 3 or 4 radiators according to what they'll tell me they can do.

The setup is :

corsair 900D (or any case you think i can have better performance with)
3xGTX titan
asus rampage extrem IV
I7 3970x Overclocked to something stable and durable
Asus Xonar Phoebus
32g (4x8)Corsair vengeance 2400mhz
1300w cooler master psu
1to velociraptor 10krpm for data
128go Samsung 840pro
512go Samsung 840pro

I'm heading towars 2 loop, one for CPU+MOBO, second one for the 3 GPUS, redundant pumps on every loop, 3 or 4 radiators according to what they'll tell me they can do. Do you have any better idea for it?

Thanks in advance !

 

[nsafreak]

*head explodes*

One loop for the CPU & motherboard (although I don't think anything on the motherboard really needs watercooling) along with one loop for the GPUs should be fine. I'd probably go with a 240mm radiator for the CPU/motherboard loop and a 360mm radiator for the GPU loop. I don't know about the redundant pumps though, I haven't seen them on any of the watercooling setups that I've seen various folks put up and I probably wouldn't recommend them.

I do have to ask though, just what on earth do you need all of this horsepower for? Yeah it's your money I suppose but I simply can't comprehend any kind of game load that would need 3 GTX Titans. For all the world it looks like you picked all of the most expensive parts available and said "build it".

 

[jambon2006]

Short answer is because i can (thats for gaming only)

Why wouldnt recommand redundant? Ive heard its basically a safety belt (without factoring money)

 

[dma0991]

according to what they'll tell me they can do.

You should ask them for their recommendation since money isn't an issue here.

 

[lehtv]

Short answer is because i can (thats for gaming only)

The parts that matter for gaming:

- GPU setup (framerates)
- CPU (avoiding bottle neck)
- SSD (game loading times)
- 8GB RAM
- cooling (overclockability)
- Sound card (to some extent)
- sufficiently large and reliable PSU

That's it. If you want extras like a huge SSD with space for much more than your OS and games, a velociraptor for data files, a super high end case because it's fancy, 32GB of RAM because you can fill the slots... etc... you don't buy them for gaming.

 

[aigomorla]

I haven't seen them on any of the watercooling setups that I've seen various folks put up and I probably wouldn't recommend them.

really?

a lot of people i know use dual pumps.
a lot people on single pumps eventually even migrate to dual pumps.

he has 3000 dollars in the gpu end which doesnt have safty throttling.
a 79 dollar pump to save 3000 dollars worth of eq incase one of the 79 dollar pumps fails is more then a worthwhile investment.

How many pumps do u think my system uses?
Lemme show you..

Answer is 6...
4xDDC + 2xD5
3 loops each having a redundant pump.


now uve seen a 6 pump system...



Lastly... OP...
I assume u fixed your problem of "not building this yourself".
I warned you on the other thread its very dangerous to have someone build u a custom LC unit.
I can list out great parts... give u great advice how to cool things... but i am not next to you 24/7.
The only person next to you 24/7 is you.
This is why its important to learn how to watercool, as much as do i want to watercool.

 

[MrK6]

Lastly... OP...
I assume u fixed your problem of "not building this yourself".
I warned you on the other thread its very dangerous to have someone build u a custom LC unit.
I can list out great parts... give u great advice how to cool things... but i am not next to you 24/7.
The only person next to you 24/7 is you.
This is why its important to learn how to watercool, as much as do i want to watercool.

I agree. I don't think it's wise to put that much money (regardless of how much you have) into a system and not know what you're doing. I'd recommend sticking to air cooling if you want that much horsepower and building a second "easier" system, low-end with only a single discrete GPU, to get your feet wet (hopefully only figuratively). Watercooling is easy to understand and do well if you're careful, pay attention, and have a good grasp of physics. However, many people lack one or more of these qualities innately and have to learn it.

 

[Harrod]

I've been water cooling for about 10 years now, and one thing that I've learned in the process is water cooling your video cards is a huge waste of money when the card become obsolete. At that time you will not only have 3 old cards you will want to get rid of, you will also have practically no one in the market for those cards with the water blocks to sell them to.

You've said that you are going to have someone else do all the work, but what are you going to do when you find out that one of your cards overclocks becomes unstable? Are you planning on packing up your whole unit and running it back to the builder every time something goes wrong so they can nickle and dime you to death?

One other thing that I've learned is I have always regretted running multi-card GPU setups, the benchmarks will show you great increases, but in real life the increase was minimal compared to the extra noise and heat that ended up getting dumped into the room. Also micro stutter was prevalent in both of those builds.

I'm not trying to shoot holes in your build or anything, but you created this post asking for recommendations.

 

[aigomorla]

I've been water cooling for about 10 years now, and one thing that I've learned in the process is water cooling your video cards is a huge waste of money when the card become obsolete. .

very true..

but i always save the box.. and stock heat sink.

And if i decide to resell it, i realized it sells faster with the waterblock then without..

 

[MrK6]

very true..

but i always save the box.. and stock heat sink.

And if i decide to resell it, i realized it sells faster with the waterblock then without..

Ditto. I've never had a problem selling a card with a waterblock.

 

[Interitus]

OP if you're throwing that much money at this rig, and a little more wouldn't bother you...

I would highly recommend a nice WC friendlier case like Caselabs or Lil Devil's.

Another +1 for pump redundancy. Think of it as an insurance policy. I ran 2 DDC's in mine.

Also, to keep routine maintenance simple, have them install an easily accessible drain and fill line for the loops. If you go the distilled route for fluid, that'll pretty much keep your maintenance easy. Just pull drain plug, refill and bleed. Set it and forget it. Showtime Rotisserie style.

 

[smackababy]

Ditto. I've never had a problem selling a card with a waterblock.

I usually end up throwing my water blocks away. =( Put the stock cooler back on and sell the card for cheap.

 

[Aikouka]

I usually end up throwing my water blocks away. =( Put the stock cooler back on and sell the card for cheap.

Are those GPU-only blocks or full-cover blocks that you're tossing away!? After paying for all my water cooling stuff, I couldn't imagine just tossing $140+ worth of hardware away.

 

[MrK6]

Are those GPU-only blocks or full-cover blocks that you're tossing away!? After paying for all my water cooling stuff, I couldn't imagine just tossing $140+ worth of hardware away.

Waterblocks are easy to sell by themselves too.

 

[Z15CAM]

$$$$ - HIC! - Love it, by all means just do it ;o)

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i7 2700k/ASUS P8Z68-V Pro Gen3/Corsair H110 (running @ .996v/1600Mhz to 1.376v/4600Mhz 24/7 between 36 to 67C), 4 x's 4 sticks of Samsung MV-3V4G3D-US DDR3 running at 1.5v/1866Mhz 9-9-9-24 1T (Fastest Ram I've come across), XFX 850W Pro Black modular PSU, EVGA e-GeForce GTX 280, 1 Samsung 256G Pro as Boot Drive, 2 x's WD5001AALS HDD's in Raid-0 and 1 x's WD1002FAEX, Fractal Design ARC Midi R2 case, ASUS DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS optical drive, numerous Usb 2 & 3 USB Flash Thumbs and a Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1250 PCI-e and oh yes an extra PCI Intel NIC Card - for whatever.

Looking forward to updating the VGA perhaps an EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 with the old GTX 280 assigned to Physic's-X would be nice; but, I'm not much of a Gamer.

I've got approx $1,500 Canadian LOONIES in her now and that does not include a 120Mhz LCD/LED Monitor or a descent Video card; but she's a 5+ Ghz Rig ;o)

 

[UNhooked]

What another poster said. Ditch the Corsair 900D, it's too dam heavy. Look into MountainMods, CaseLab or LittleDevil. Costs a little more but very watercooling friendly. Also for PSU look into the Lepa 1600W. Hands down the best PSU money can buy.

As per the loops, one 240mm for CPU+Mobo should be more than you need and if you can get a 480mm rad for the GPU's.

Also redundant pumps won't hurt. Try to get the MCP 655 or DDC variant pumps only.

O also I would use Koolance No Spill Quick disconnects in both loops so that you swap out the parts easily without needing to dismantle the entire loop if any part goes bad.

To all posters saying it's a waste of money. I can't imagine spending that much blah blah.. You have no business being in this thread. It's the OP's prerogative with that said, this is going to be one kick ass machine that would be every gamer's wet dream

 

[smackababy]

While, I don't have a 900D yet, I don't see any problem with it. I would never recommend a MountainMods case though. You are paying for a few pieces of sheet metal and some screws? And I hadn't heard of LittleDevil until now, but they have a 1200€ case. No thanks. No case is worth that. I don't care what comes with it.