How to WIPE your HD clean if RIAA comes around?

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ScottMac

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With no exceptions, drives with Classified information are wiped, then crushed, then shredded, then burned / smelted.

If you're that worried about getting caught, don't do the crime.

FWIW

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Scott
 
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Originally posted by: ScottMac
With no exceptions, drives with Classified information are wiped, then crushed, then shredded, then burned / smelted.

If you're that worried about getting caught, don't do the crime.

FWIW

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Scott

Folks, we have a winner.

All the supposed "Approved by the DoD for use on Top-Secret drives" programs? Pure bunk. If there's stuff on there about aliens, JFK, or anything else beyond a glimpse of the public eye, the closest you'll ever get to the drive will be its use as raw metal to make your case.

- M4H
 

apoppin

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Unless i am seiously mistaken, the RIAA only cares about those who SHARE copyrighted works - not D/L'ers . . .

at least, not yet..

JOIN THE RIAA BOYCOTT.

Pretty soon, NOTHING will be free -

And there is NOTHING but the physical destruction of the HD that can prevent data recovery.

IF your data is that "sensitive, make backups of what you want to keep and then hammer it into oblivion. :Q
 

glugglug

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Originally posted by: ScottMac
With no exceptions, drives with Classified information are wiped, then crushed, then shredded, then burned / smelted.

If you're that worried about getting caught, don't do the crime.

FWIW

.02

Scott

:camera:'s?
 

hudster

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Originally posted by: Burninator
any programs or things of that nature to destroy entirely?

back to answer the OP's original question, maybe take a look at dban



now, as for the infamous RIAA, two thoughts:

1) going after a 12-year-old girl, wow, that must make you guys feel big and tough, eh?

2) um, how many millions of people are doing this? Is this a country where the majority still rules (I'm referring to the U.S. here...and maybe I don't want the truthful answer to that question... I may find out that $$$ rules)? I mean, if enough people think it's ok, shouldn't it be put to a vote, maybe copyright laws could be repealed or something...
 

Barnaby W. Füi

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Originally posted by: hudster
Originally posted by: Burninator
any programs or things of that nature to destroy entirely?

back to answer the OP's original question, maybe take a look at dban



now, as for the slime-ridden filth known as RIAA, two thoughts:

1) going after a 12-year-old girl, wow, that must make you guys feel big and tough, eh?

2) um, how many millions of people are doing this? Is this a country where the majority still rules (I'm referring to the U.S. here...and maybe I don't want the truthful answer to that question... I may find out that $$$ rules)? I mean, if enough people think it's ok, shouldn't it be put to a vote, maybe copyright laws could be repealed or something...

Well, argument #1 isn't even really an argument, and #2 seems unlikely. Money and power are what rules the world (for the most part). Basically - people with ambition (which is often due to greed) rule the world, and usually that ambition is for money and/or power. File sharers don't seem all that ambitious, at least about file sharing, and at least in comparison to who they're up against.

A great read: http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~78~1626541,00.html
 

fredtam

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Strap it to a bat and beat the hell out of the RIAA member who shows up at your door. If your going to be charged with something it may as well be something good. Which would you rather say to your cell mate: "I was downloading MP3s" or "I savagely beat some a$$hat". I know they are only fining people now but I'm sure they will find a way to take it to the next level. I wonder if you could charge them with extortion since they make you buy 12 crap songs to get one good one. Just a thought.
 

RVN

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If they sue you for illegally downloading music ...don't sweat it ...you should be able to keep what you downloaded after you pay them!

I especially liked what David Bowie said when he pointed out that it is quite a sad state of affairs that the RIAA started suing the very hand that feeds them (...not the exact quote just the jist!)
 

ScottMac

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I just wish they were a publicly traded company (the RIAA) - I forsee a great deal of income in their future....

Oh well...

 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: ScottMac
I just wish they were a publicly traded company (the RIAA) - I forsee a great deal of income in their future....

Oh well...
Try the OT thread . . . I say the RIAA will not be recognizable as today's giant in 10 years.

Seriously - IF you are THAT worried about your HD's contents, copy the data you want and then destroy it. They are pretty cheap (see Hot Deals) nowadays.



 

JackBurton

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Dude, just encrypt your music folder, and then encrypt the folder inside of that, and the folder inside of that....and when the RIAA shows up say "here it is! Oh, by the way, I forgot that password." Just find a 1024bit encryption program to do the job right.
 

RhythmAddict

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I dont think it matters whether your HD has anything on it. I dont think it matters if there is a PC even in your house. They're monitoring shares, ie what "you" are sharing. They track down that IP, contact the ISP and the ISP discloses the name on the account...Basically, if that IP is documented as being registered to an individual - they're goint to get screwed. I mean, who knows you could have a laptop that isn't in a 1,000 mi. radius, theoretically, but RIAA will still try to screw you.
 

erikistired

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as has been stated, stop using file sharing programs. kazaa has been so flooded with crap files anyway it's about useless. there are much better alternatives to get music.
 

Alexadi

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Guys, a thought:
Why make a contract with an isp in your own name?

When I had to register my mobile phone number it went like this:
-Name an address please?
-Madonna, Ocean Boulevard, Beverly Hills.
-Hmm, ok sir, but you do realise if there is a problem with the phone, Madonna will have to come to the service center?
-Yup, no problem.
-Ok then...your account is activated.



Ps: if your computer would ever be taken into custody and found to contain mp3's, you will definetely not get it back, because it would be an evidence. So, if in doubt, remove the hd and use it for target practice.

 

slicksilver

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I guess I must consider myself lucky for living in India........no RIAA no nothing....but that's because 90% of us are still on the stupid 56k dialup

Raj
 

crisp82

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Format the HD and overwriting all data is the only way to ensure the data is gone.
 

damonpip

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Maybe you should just quit using Kazaa? There are other ways to get music, buying it is one option, or there are other illegal ways, but I'm not going to tell you how.
 

Kev

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do you guys really think they will try to recover evidence from a hd that has had zero's written or just formatted?

this is the RIAA, not the NSA
 

ScottMac

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It wouldn't matter. If they busted him, they'd already have all the evidence they needed. If anything, they'd impound the machine just to make it part of the "lesson".

They can supoena every machine in the house... including his parent's laptops from work.

If it's a criminal complaint, they can impound anything that they can reasonably use to argue their case .... even if they don't use it. You wouldn't get it back until after the verdict.

If it's a civil case, they can ask to have whatever they want on the subpoena, and the court will decide if it's a fair request or not.

They can also ask for records from your ISP, the Telco, credit cards .... as long as they can provide a reason for wanting it and the court approves it.

For a criminal case, they would only have to prove reasonable suspicion, within the limits of state law and the current interpretation of the Fourth amendment.

FWIW

Scott
 

EeyoreX

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Format the HD and overwriting all data is the only way to ensure the data is gone.
No. It is not. The only was to ensure the data is gone is to completely, irrevocably, destry the hardware. Data can be retrieved off of hard drives that have been formatted, serveral times, that have been submerged in water, been burnt in fires, or have been "wiped" by software. As long as there is a physical platter to work with. It just depends on how much time money and effort the retriever is willing to put in. Of course, this has all been mentioned to varying degrees before me. As was also already mentioned, if the RIAA comes a knockin' you are already busted, they don't even need to look at your hard drive or computer. They are just there to say "See you in court. We accept cash, checks, and all major credit cards. Just so you know."*

\Dan

*Actual quote may vary.
 
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