How will republicans repeal ObamaCare?

[steppinthrax]

I keep hearing this. What would be the process for the republican controlled congress to perform this?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I keep hearing this. What would be the process for the republican controlled congress to perform this?

If Republicans vote to repeal ACA it will be purely symbolic...there is no way it can be realistically repealed while Obama is in office.

 

[steppinthrax]

If Republicans vote to repeal ACA it will be purely symbolic...there is no way it can be realistically repealed while Obama is in office.

So if the vote to repeal it Obama will simply veto it?

But in two more years it will probably be vetoed anyway....

 

[dphantom]

There will be no repeal of Obamacare. However, it may very well be restructured in some way that puts more control back in the hands of people and their choice in policies. Things like data sharing of health information will continue

 

[PokerGuy]

For starters, the repubs would need a super-majority in the senate to pass any laws that would get rid of obummercare. Even if they were to do so, the president would obviously veto any legislation that didn't further harm the country.

No, there will be no repeal, but if the pubbies play their cards right, they can cut funding for certain key parts, and they can use leverage to get concessions.

Ultimately, Reid shielded the president and other dems from having to vote (or veto) legislation by simply not bringing anything to a vote in the senate, and then blaming the repubs for being a "do nothing" congress. Now that's going to change. The repubs can use that leverage to get some things done, but in the end there will be no repeal.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

So if the vote to repeal it Obama will simply veto it?

He'll veto if Democrats are unable to get enough votes to filibuster...which is quite possible imo.

But in two more years it will probably be vetoed anyway....

That's 2 years away...you assume much.

 

[hal2kilo]

With Cruz on the loose as a foil to McConnel, the idiot's going keep dagging it out ad nausim. Be prepared for more of the same.

 

[fskimospy]

He'll veto if Democrats are unable to get enough votes to filibuster...which is quite possible imo.


That's 2 years away...you assume much.

Democrats can easily filibuster any ACA repeal vote. It won't be an issue.

The repeal of the ACA is never going to happen. The only thing that might happen is a symbolic "repeal" that replaces the ACA with something that functions the same way. Health economics basically limits any plan that eliminates preexisting condition exclusions to something that looks a lot like the ACA.

 

[rudder]

Now that the election is over and the obama administration will now release the 2015 insurance prices.... everyone may want the ACA repealed.

 

[Genx87]

They wont

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Now that the election is over and the obama administration will now release the 2015 insurance prices.... everyone may want the ACA repealed.

Plus the mandate penalties "get real" the next couple of years...people are going to be pissed.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Ultimately, Reid shielded the president and other dems from having to vote (or veto) legislation by simply not bringing anything to a vote in the senate, and then blaming the repubs for being a "do nothing" congress. Now that's going to change. The repubs can use that leverage to get some things done, but in the end there will be no repeal.

Truth hurts....you and I both know that it honestly was a do nothing congress......everybody knows that...

 

[Thebobo]

They cant

 

[Newell Steamer]

They can start by suei,.. oh, wait - nm.

 

[cabri]

Plus the mandate penalties "get real" the next couple of years...people are going to be pissed.

People that have avoided the purchasing of insurance due to the low "penalty" will see the changes.

Even though it can not be enforced, it will reduce any refund that is expected.

Only those that have a tax due will not feel the forced pinch.

And you will have people that have subsidized rates see a tax bill if their income increased.

 

[PokerGuy]

Truth hurts....you and I both know that it honestly was a do nothing congress......everybody knows that...

Depends on what you define as "doing nothing". Working hard to stop the libs and dear leader from doing more damage to the country is not "doing nothing", it's critical work. As the minority party in the senate, the role of the repubs was to prevent as much damage as possible, they did a pretty decent job of it. They weren't able to stop the obummercare disaster, but that was not their fault, they tried.

 

[michal1980]

they can't. and if they try more then a symbolic bone to the party, they'll be wasting time.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

they can't. and if they try more then a symbolic bone to the party, they'll be wasting time.

They may do it to get Dems on record.

 

[spidey07]

If Republicans vote to repeal ACA it will be purely symbolic...there is no way it can be realistically repealed while Obama is in office.

Not true at all. Repeal it in the house and then in the senate get a few Democrat senators to vote for it with enough votes to override Obama veto.

After the election the incumbent democrats are going to be very scared of voting for any Obama policies. As stated the really bad shit about Obamacare is about to kick in. It's very possible Democrats would be scared to NOT repeal it.

How many dumbocrats would they need to get 2/3rds veto override? 14? Very possible.

 

[fskimospy]

Not true at all. Repeal it in the house and then in the senate get a few Democrat senators to vote for it with enough votes to override Obama veto.

After the election the incumbent democrats are going to be very scared of voting for any Obama policies. As stated the really bad shit about Obamacare is about to kick in. It's very possible Democrats would be scared to NOT repeal it.

How many dumbocrats would they need to get 2/3rds veto override? 14? Very possible.

Is it now. I know how much you like political betting so do you care to make a wager on that? I'll give you 10-1 odds on a $500 bet. Hell, I'll give you 20-1. If the senate overrides obama's veto to repeal the ACA at any time in the next two years I'll pay you $10,000. If they don't, you pay me $500.

Deal?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Democrats can easily filibuster any ACA repeal vote. It won't be an issue.

The repeal of the ACA is never going to happen. The only thing that might happen is a symbolic "repeal" that replaces the ACA with something that functions the same way. Health economics basically limits any plan that eliminates preexisting condition exclusions to something that looks a lot like the ACA.

They can indeed make changes. The only thing off the table is preexisting conditions. The mandate is not going away but it might be modified in some way. The remaining few thousand pages are up for grabs.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Is it now. I know how much you like political betting so do you care to make a wager on that? I'll give you 10-1 odds on a $500 bet. Hell, I'll give you 20-1. If the senate overrides obama's veto to repeal the ACA at any time in the next two years I'll pay you $10,000. If they don't, you pay me $500.

Deal?

Overt repeal will not happen. They can however restructure it. No member of Congress Republican or Democrat, is going to be the one to push for eliminating pre existing requirements and without direct replacement that is just what would happen.

 

[spidey07]

Republicans have said they will repeal and replace.

 

[michal1980]

Republicans have said they will repeal and replace.

but what the say, and what they can do are two different things.

say they get another 2 republican senators. 54 voters. they would need 13 dems to vote against. I doubt that will happen.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

No because Romney crafted such a great bill that its suicide to repeal. We'll all go back to the old way with higher rates, no thanks or how about the millions that have care now tell them sorry its not for you or what about the hospitals that get compensated because more have insurance tell them to suck up the emergency room visits?