How will the presidential election winner be determined?

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MtnMan

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So what's even the point of elections anymore?
Trump has covered that, if elected he claims we will never have to vote again.
Surprised at how many people in this thread are resigned to the notion that either SCOTUS or a House vote will install Trump.
Have you been in a coma for the last several years?
  • SCOTUS has ruled that Trump can not be charged with any crimes. Yea, sure they say the president, but they really mean Trump.
  • The speaker of the house is a boot licking Trump puppet, of course they will install Trump.
And you called me a bedwetter.
Based on how clueless your first two statements are, I doubt that you even notice you wet the bed.
 
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APU_Fusion

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I don't think anyone is resigned in the sense of giving up.

But you call it like you see it.

As far as voting in the election, that's the only possible way to keep Trump out, so you still have to do it and hope that it's a big enough win that the cheaters can't overcome it. I'm not convinced the SC will be involved or be enough involved to overturn it, or even if they'd be willing to (they have surprised me before).

Trump and the GOP would love it people were intimidated into not voting. That's the easy street for them.

As far as another coup attempt, that is a given. I think there will be both sneaky election stealing attempts like the ones still in court from 2020 and at least one big riot type thing if Harris wins. I don't worry about the latter--if crazies feel like they want to water the tree of liberty with their blood over a rapist felon, go for it. Take over another fucking building and chant songs you freaking lunatics. Win either a meaningless death or lots of time behind bars for your day in the sun. Either way that's a win for the rest of us, less of them out and about in society.
People won’t be intimidated and they will vote. My concern is for the maga who infiltrated the voting boards and commissions at the state level. They are clearly traitors to the republic.
 

Pens1566

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I sincerely hope that the US government is ready to put down another coup attempt which is without doubt already being planned. Though if another coup is attempted and stopped, considering that SCOTUS is fundamentally compromised, a pretty radical conclusion is required.

DHS has already declared 1-6-25 as a special security event.
 
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nickqt

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Electoral College if Trump wins with 270.

Electoral College if Harris wins with 270 and Republicans do not attempt another coup (higher standard to win if Democrats because they aren't traitors).

If Electoral College 269-269, House of Representatives if 25+ states have majority Republicans ->Trump.
If Electoral College 269-269, House of Representatives if 25+ states have majority Democrats-> Harris.

If Electoral College 269-269, House of Representatives cannot decide, then Senate selects VP as acting President.

If Senate Majority exists, then that Majority Party's candidate for VP selected as acting President until House of Representatives picks President.

SCOTUS only if Republicans attempt another coup and are successful in preventing the Constitutional process from moving forward with regards to Electoral College or House of Representatives/Senate selection in case of 269-269.

*Wildcard: Republicans kick out Mike Johnson and put in Trump as Speaker of the House.
 

mikeymikec

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I just keep in the back of my mind that the SCOTUS has granted immense immunity for official presidential acts. I weirdly would love to see a coup attempt with that notion in my mind.

Only GQP Presidents have immunity, silly. What's the point in having the law on your side if it benefits your opponents too.
 
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hal2kilo

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The shit that happened in 2021 won't be happening. There will be much tighter security and way further out from the capital. Think about the secured zones for the conventions.
Lockdown the bridges from Chain to Wilson. Oh crap Wilson would shut down the beltway.
 

nickqt

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lol they plan to assassinate Biden and Harris before Jan 20?
I never implied as much. It's a wildcard move that is entirely possible that wasn't included in the poll so I added it. Having Trump as Speaker of the House could result in much more chicanery than having just a Trump stooge like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson sorta gives a shit about the government continuing to operate. Do you believe that of Trump?
 

Dave_5k

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My detailed election forecast for winning 2024:

- Trump will claim fraud at least once a week from now until election day
- The only significant number of individuals committing election fraud will be multi-voting across multiple states, for which hundreds or low thousands will be committed by Republicans from red states (which have dropped all participation in multi-state election security). And none of these deliberate double voting fraudsters will ever face more than pleaded misdemeanors, most will never even be prosecuted.
- Trump will declare victory on election day well before polls close
- Republicans will succeed in getting thousands of ballots from valid voters thrown out for technicalities
- Kamala Harris will win both the popular vote and the electoral vote
- More than 3 jurisdictions will have MAGA-planted elections officials illegally block certification past statutory deadlines.
- At least one republican controlled state legislature will illegally vote to overthrow the election, although the governor or secretary of state will ultimately follow rule of law ignoring legislature
- The election will barely be certified for Harris, with more than 2/3 of Republicans voting to overthrow the government, in a failed attempt to block certification.

Hmm, replace "Harris" with "Biden", and my forecast looks almost identical to 2020... maybe I should think up some new material. Except MAGA never changes.
 

Indus

Lifer
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They've already done it once, and conservatives seem resigned to the idea they can't win popular votes anymore. This is the obvious end-game.

Back a decade ago, before Trump.. there were polls those conservatives were totally okay with a military takeover replacing Obama.

Wasn't there the whole Jade Helm conspiracy?

And there's this that was forgotten from last year

 

fskimospy

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So what's even the point of elections anymore?

Surprised at how many people in this thread are resigned to the notion that either SCOTUS or a House vote will install Trump.

And you called me a bedwetter.
Ok even you have to admit that it’s funny that you switched from ‘Trump will win in a landslide’ and then when it looks like he will lose you switched to something else.

It does not take a genius to see your schtick.
 

Stokely

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The shit that happened in 2021 won't be happening. There will be much tighter security and way further out from the capital. Think about the secured zones for the conventions.

They should just set up a "honeypot" location. Clear anything and anyone out of whatever building, though you let "slip" to whoever is left in the Proud Boys and other asshats that Harris will be in there. Let em all bust in there, surround the building and then scoop them up, starve them out (or shoot them if they won't go quietly). Talk about draining the swamp, you can do it one group of moron rebels at a time.

I watched a ton of videos from the Parler hack, including many of the people in their hotels getting ready and walking to the Capitol. Most are simply just morons. They were dumb enough to think that busting into a federal building in a mob wasn't doing anything wrong or illegal (????).... some of course were truly dangerous, but most on the videos were just cosplaying boobs. I really, really doubt that most of these suburban fantasy warriors will be up for doing this again, seeing jail time and/or losing their jobs in the offing. Any Jan 6 type attempt I reckon will be far smaller.
 

cytg111

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I'm going with SCOTUS, Harris will take the EC, local courts will find 'irregularities', fast tracked lawsuits will get to SC within days, SC will declare Trump winner in key states.
I hope Biden/Harris has Seal Team 1..99 ready to level SCOTUS if it goes that way. SCOTUS or not it's still a coup, just means SCOTUS is complicit.
 

gothuevos

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fskimospy

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How do you combat this?

No need to worry about election subversion because Trump is going to win by 99-1.
 
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Indus

Lifer
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How do you combat this?


You ship em off to Russia if you're smart or you do nothing and let the cancer metastasize.
 

iRONic

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Jan 28, 2006
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How do you combat this?

I combat that by voting.

You combat that by buying more diapers.

The federal government combats that by putting protocols in place and executing them if the situation arises.

And finally if none of that works the President of the United States has all of them arrested and jailed under the Presidential powers of immunity granted to him by the SCOTUS.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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I combat that by voting.

You combat that by buying more diapers.

The federal government combats that by putting protocols in place and executing them if the situation arises.

And finally if none of that works the President of the United States has all of them arrested and jailed under the Presidential powers of immunity granted to him by the SCOTUS.
Oh this is fun, let me try.

Then the SCOTUS overturns the sentences because the voting process is a state issue, then overturns the election.
 
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