How would I go about bypassing a bandwidth filter? (I'm on a university multi-T1 ethernet)

[Endarkened]

My school recently added a new feature to their firewall that can supposedly determine what program you are using to send stuff through, and effectively limit the bw of that send. It allegedly limits it to 5% of total available bw, but I'm lucky if I can get send speeds of 3 kb/s (even to another ethernet)..... I don't like this. The program I use for sending/receiving is mirc (SysReset, to be exact) and also an ftp I set up. Even running my sends through high port numbers doesn't bypass it -- it seems to be filtering all of them(well, at least the high number ports I tried at random). I encode anime fansubs for a channel on mirc, so it's crucial that I be able to send at reasonable speeds. If you have any ideas how I could get around this, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

~EnDarkEnd

 

[Tallgeese]

 

[Tallgeese]

Originally posted by: Endarkened
I encode anime fansubs for a channel on mirc, so it's crucial that I be able to send at reasonable speeds.

Why do I find this sentence particularly hilarious? Wait...I got it. The word "crucial" used in this context. :frown:

If you have any ideas how I could get around this, it would be greatly appreciated.

I'll be shocked and surprised if anything that you would greatly appreciate gets posted to this thread.

Except for maybe that punk spidey07. He's always b*tching about this very issue. He'll probably have some "social engineering" tips for you that could help get this issue resolved.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Hack the firewall and make it give you all of the bandwidth! You obviously deserve it. Your parents would be proud that the money they are spending to send you to college is getting used in such a wonderful and humanity helping way!

 

[n0cmonkey]

Here is a post I made in another thread about the same subject:

I can think of several solutions to your "problem."

1. Utilize the student discount effect. There should be plenty of software and whatnot in the campus stores available at a special student rate, take advantage of this.

2. DSL/Cable/Dialup. Get your own unfettered internet connection and do as your ISP allows you.

3. Get a server co-located somewhere. You can then ssh/remote desktop/vnc into that machine, download everything to that machine and use scp/ftp to get the files off of that machine. Chances are FTP and scp are not limited to the degree most file sharing programs are. This also gives you experience in setting up a server, keeping it secure, and you will understand how expensive bandwidth really is.

4. Get together with the people in your dorm. Work on setting up a "file sharing system" there. Even open network shares would get the job done. Everyone can create an open network share on their machine, store their goodz there and allow people to mooch. Localnet bandwidth is much cheaper than Internet. Plus, one of the things higher education is supposed to be good for (but I never found this to be really true) is that it gives you the chance to experience different cultures and different points of view. Think about the variety of people on your floor in the dorm. There are probably the mix of pop, hip-hop, metal, and maybe even some techno listeners on your floor alone. Granted, most of the people there probably listen to the same music as the rest of the people, but you should be able to find one or two different people with different tastes willing to participate.

5. Write a letter to the big wigs informing them of the problem, a solution to the problem, and the benefits to the school and students if your solution was to be put in place. A fairly professional letter, describing how this lack of p2p ability hurts the education of the students, the budget of the school, and the usability of the network could go a long way. Make sure to mention how the extra bandwidth being used would not affect the budget to a significant degree and could make administration of the network easier. If you find ways to make that true, let the rest of us know With this solution, you dont look like a greedy little kid, and as a benefit to you and your parents, it would be tough for them to justify kicking you out.

6. Participate in things not involving a computer, kazaa, and a box of kleenex.


These solutions are all valid and possible. None of them quite gives you the ease and simplicity of kazaa and a big pipe, but they will all solve the problem. #4 would be what I would look into, although the security implications are a concern.

Good luck.

Good luck (one more post to laugh with TG then Im done on this thread )

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: TallGeese

Originally posted by: Endarkened
I encode anime fansubs for a channel on mirc, so it's crucial that I be able to send at reasonable speeds.

Why do I find this sentence particularly hilarious? Wait...I got it. The word "crucial" used in this context. :frown:

But isnt that what higher education is all about? Smoking a joint/drinking a brew and jerking it to animated asian girls taking baths after removing the mecha suit from their soft young bodies, sore from the rigors of defeating the mecha (filled with equally young and beautiful asian girls) of the <insert name> {empire|rebellion}?

Dont diss the lifestyle, encourage the "youth" and buy stock in KY, vaseline, and astroglide. Then it does become "crucial."

 

[spidey07]

Endarkened,

Hearing how these dumb college networks limit bandwidth just burns me up. TIME FOR ACTION!!! We must act now to protect our right to rip nubile cartoons and distribute them! How dare the university restrict your rights?

Contact the dean or the director of Information Services - clearly explain why you need more bandwidth and what you be using it for. They can easily turn it up for you.

Good luck, dork.

 

[Daniel]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Endarkened,


Contact the dean or the director of Information Services - clearly explain why you need more bandwidth and what you be using it for. They can easily turn it up for you.

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Seriously man thats a great idea, if you explain to them how crucial it is and they might rework the firewall setup for you.

 

[stash]

hahaha....anime!! hahahaha

loser...go out and talk to real women some time

 

[Endarkened]

Hmmmmm..... I hadn't been around these forums for a while -- kinda sad to see how badly they've degenerated. I remember a time when "elite" and "platinum" members were actually kind, even if they couldn't/wouldn't help. Your responses, while obviously humerous to some, are nothing but cheap shots at someone you don't even know. My question wasn't written in hate or angst, I only wished to share at speeds higher than a few kb/s. And no, n0cmonkey, your assumption that I am not paying for my college education is incorrect. Various people have various hobbies -- I don't see how your hobby of hanging around forums such as these to get off by insulting people is so much better than mine.

~EnDarkEnd

 

[stash]

My question wasn't written in hate or angst, I only wished to share at speeds higher than a few kb/s.

You see, there are many admins (including myself) in these fora, and we just cant understand why people such as yourself feel that we are obligated to give you infinite bandwith so that you may partake in your trivial, and often illegal activities.

It doesn't matter who is paying for you to go to school. You are there for an education. While it may shock you that others on campus have a more pressing need for network access than you and your anime, they do exist. The priority on a college campus is to provide access to faculty students and staff so that they can have tools at their disposal that will assist in getting an education. P2P programs are not such tools.

If you read your college's ToS, it almost certainly has a section about using these programs. But that is all beside the point. If you feel you are being wronged by your network admins, talk to them! Don't come to this forum and expect people to assist you in illegally circumventing the restrictions.

Various people have various hobbies...if anime is your hobby, fine. But the campus network does not exist to facilitate your hobby! You want to use P2P programs, move off campus and get broadband. Even then, if you distribute copywrited material (I don't know if anime would fall under that category), you would still be committing an offense.

Sorry to rain on your parade, but thats the way it is on college networks...if you don't like it, move somewhere else.

 

[Paulson]

Move out of the dorms and get your own cable/dsl line!

 

[travisio]

Your best bet is to try to tranfer files via HTTP or FTP. These protocols usually have the most allocated bandwidth or highest priority. It is probably a packet shaper and these are usually placed right before the last hop out of your network. So you aren't going to get around it. Programs such as IRC, Morpheous, Kazaa, etc are usually given low priorities and small rates. The shaper will recognize these protocols no matter what port and usually these apps (especially P2Papps) are very limited.

Port numbers don't matter because the device can identify traffic based on the protocol itself. For example you could embed say traffic type A (A being whatever traffice type you wanted) within HTTP, however, the packetshaper is able to distinguish web traffic from A type traffic. Once it has recognized traffic type A, it will classify it as needed and not allow it through as web traffic even though it is still on port 80.

At our University if you were to report this, we would do what we could to help, but you wouldn't see a significant raise in throughput. Unless you can convince us it is for educational purposes.

Also if you think the packetshaper sucks, think about this before you criticize it. Say a student sets up an ftp server and there are no limits set on bandwidth useage. He could use majority if not all of your bandwidth thus bottlenecking the entire Internet connection for everyone else. The packetshaper allows for an even distribution of network traffic for everyone based on what the institution deems important. This said, I think the students like us more when they can at least use the network even though certain things are limited.

If you do not agree with the way the university manages bandwidth, you could get DSL/Cable in your room (possibly). Given the proper cabling and equipment is there. Hope this helps. Good luck.


To others that posted to this thread: Sure saying transferring anime is "crucial" is a little ridiculuous, but geez lay off the guy. He just wanted a little help. You don't have to ream him. Just point him in the right direction where you think he is wrong and try to help in any way possible. There is no sense in replying with the rude comments like some of yall have. This is the network forum not the ream a guy for a dumb question forum. I agree back in the day when I first joined this forum as silly or dumb as your question was you would still get positive replies. Now all you guys (and Im not saying all of you) do is put down people yall don't even know. TG you did the same thing on one of my posts the other day. Heck you are the first to reply with a rude and pointless comment on this thread. Get a life man you are supposed to be some grown up network admin and all. Putting people down in technical forums for asking questions you think are dumb is pretty immature to me.

 

[stash]

To others that posted to this thread: Sure saying transferring anime is "crucial" is a little ridiculuous, but geez lay off the guy. He just wanted a little help. You don't have to ream him. Just point him in the right direction where you think he is wrong and try to help in any way possible. There is no sense in replying with the rude comments like some of yall have. This is the network forum not the ream a guy for a dumb question forum. I agree back in the day when I first joined this forum as silly or dumb as your question was you would still get positive replies. Now all you guys (and Im not saying all of you) do is put down people yall don't even know. TG you did the same thing on one of my posts the other day. Heck you are the first to reply with a rude and pointless comment on this thread. Get a life man you are supposed to be some grown up network admin and all. Putting people down in technical forums for asking questions you think are dumb is pretty immature to me.

You are quite right, and I apologize. But from the perspective of myself and others, we see this type of question WAY to much. If a person didn't know better, he could do well to search and save himself from attacks from disgruntled admins such as myself. As you point out, the restrictions are put in place for the students' benefit. It's frustrating when people can't understand that. More and more on college campuses, students cry "Me, me, me!" with no regards for anyone else. Since college is (supposedly) to prepare you for life, they should learn that only thinking of themselves wont get them too far in the Real World (tm).

 

[Daniel]

Originally posted by: STaSh

You are quite right, and I apologize. But from the perspective of myself and others, we see this type of question WAY to much. If a person didn't know better, he could do well to search and save himself from attacks from disgruntled admins such as myself. As you point out, the restrictions are put in place for the students' benefit. It's frustrating when people can't understand that. More and more on college campuses, students cry "Me, me, me!" with no regards for anyone else. Since college is (supposedly) to prepare you for life, they should learn that only thinking of themselves wont get them too far in the Real World (tm).

Thats really the problem, it does seem lately in this forum and in others having to do with networking there has been a rash of questions such as this. There have been loads of questions that I've seen where people just want to do things that will harm the entire school/business only because they think they know better than the admins and shouldn't be held back in any way.