How Would You Classify the Jehovah's Witnesses?

[alzan]

Indeed.

By having that as the only option. FWIW, I really don't care why we have bloodless surgery...all that really matters to me is that folks now have a rational and valid objection to transfusions -- they can be no longer viewed as fools as they have decades worth of research in their favor.

Now, it is an option.

If you didn't care then why bring it up?

It's not simply that refusing blood transfusions makes them look fools, myself and many others consider them fools even if they had originally allowed blood transfusions; decades worth of research notwithstanding.

My point was that for my recent situation it wasn't an option; when a normal hemoglobin count is 14 and mine was 6.1 and dropping, bloodless surgery or blood conservation simply wasn't an option. The surgery needed to be done at that point in time, not several days/weeks/months down the road.

 

[silicon]

I guess i started this thread because the JW's were visiting once a week in their typical recruiting strategy. So I invited them in to talk, big mistake on my[part. The subject came up and the question was "What if your child needed a transfusion to survive?" The answer I had was and I quote, "Many children die everyday, whats one more?. I mean really!! I lost all respect for them at that very moment and told them to get out and don't come back. What a bunch of GD'd losers!!!

 

[alzan]

When I feel like engaging them, I nod politely until the "anointed 144,000" subject comes up; then it's Me, "So out of the 7 billion people on Earth only 144,000 are going to heaven and some of those are already taken? I'm already not liking my odds." and slam the door in their face/walk away.

 

[disappoint]

It seems as though they have less respect for human life than their organization. This has led to some serious unethical behavior on their part.

 

[alzan]

It seems as though they have less respect for human life than their organization. This has led to some serious unethical behavior on their part.

They answer only to their organization; their lives are dictated by the interpretations of an elite few. To question the edicts of the elders of the org. invites the org.'s wrath. Same with Moonies, Mormons, etc.

 

[disappoint]

They answer only to their organization; their lives are dictated by the interpretations of an elite few. To question the edicts of the elders of the org. invites the org.'s wrath. Same with Moonies, Mormons, etc.

You can tell by their behavior. They literally believe they are doing God's handiwork. As if an omniscient being needs anyone's help doing anything.

Humans and human life mean absolutely nothing to them by comparison. That kind of thinking can lead to atrocities that would make the worlds sickest, most deprived serial killers or genocidal dictators look like saints by comparison.

They could start World War 3, wipe 90+% of humanity off the face of the earth, burn all the books because they don't want anyone eating the fruit of knowledge, knowledge being evil in their distorted view, and sit absolutely content in their accomplishment. Then they would start suffering from and dying of diseases that were long since eradicated and wonder why God has forsaken them.

It's like entire swaths of brain matter that most people have is missing from these people, but it's more complicated than that.

Funniest of all is: these folks want everyone to believe they have the moral high ground.

Also, much like Charlie Sheen, they have deluded themselves into believing they are winning. But they are not. Their beliefs are eroding year after year unbeknownst to the cherry picking, bible thumping victims of revisionist history practicing con artists.

 

[alzan]

You can tell by their behavior. They literally believe they are doing God's handiwork. As if an omniscient being needs anyone's help doing anything.

Humans and human life mean absolutely nothing to them by comparison. That kind of thinking can lead to atrocities that would make the worlds sickest, most deprived serial killers or genocidal dictators look like saints by comparison.

They could start World War 3, wipe 90+% of humanity off the face of the earth, burn all the books because they don't want anyone eating the fruit of knowledge, knowledge being evil in their distorted view, and sit absolutely content in their accomplishment. Then they would start suffering from and dying of diseases that were long since eradicated and wonder why God has forsaken them.

It's like entire swaths of brain matter that most people have is missing from these people, but it's more complicated than that.

Funniest of all is: these folks want everyone to believe they have the moral high ground.

Also, much like Charlie Sheen, they have deluded themselves into believing they are winning. But they are not. Their beliefs are eroding year after year unbeknownst to the cherry picking, bible thumping victims of revisionist history practicing con artists.

Well, the adherents are their deities experiment: it gave them free will and is testing to see if they make the right choice.

True, I have an acquaintance who used to be Christian Scientist; when her brother-in-law died of a brain tumor they actually said that he wasn't "faithful enough".

It's not that the brain matter is missing; it's still there but the neural pathways to it have either disappeared or were reprogrammed.

An extension of the "holier-than-thou" attitude.

Charlie Sheen was surrounded by people who cared and helped him back to reality. For the most part, JW's, CS's, etc., have alienated most of the people who could help them.