How's the Crucial MX100?

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Techhog

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One last question. My board only came with two SATA cables, one of which is being used with my HDD and the other with my ODD, so I need another cable.* So long as I get a SATA 3 cable, the brand of the cable shouldn't matter, right?


*I could just use the one for my ODD and maybe get a SATA 2 cable for my ODD later on, but it doesn't seem worth the hassle.
 

Techhog

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Just use what you got. There is no reason to get a branded "SATA 3" cable.
There is basically no difference between a SATA 2 or SATA 3 cable.

Here is some reading for you: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/fe..._down_your_data_transfers_max_pc_investigates

That means, if you got new cables, fine. If you got old ones, fine.
Just make sure they work.

Okay then. I just plain don't have a spare cable, so I have to get a new one to use all of my drives. Thanks for your help either way.
 

Headfoot

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Ah. But isn't cloning from an HDD to an SSD a bad idea, since Windows won't be optimized for the SSD?

This is one of Acronis's specialties. They have some sort of secret sauce where they can image from HDD to SSD and vice versa. This was the reason I got the software in the first place and I can verify that it worked for me when I moved from a small install on a 500gb HDD to a 128 SSD
 

Elixer

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This is one of Acronis's specialties. They have some sort of secret sauce where they can image from HDD to SSD and vice versa. This was the reason I got the software in the first place and I can verify that it worked for me when I moved from a small install on a 500gb HDD to a 128 SSD

What is so secret about it ?
They just align the SSD to start at the correct offset.
You can do it manually, it just more tedious.
 

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Got my 512gb MX100 in. Cloned from my old Patriot Pyro 120gb, which replaced a Torqx that died on me.

Cloned with Acronis 2014 copy and was back at my desktop in 10 minutes. I won't lie, can't notice the speed difference whatsoever, but I was buying for the space anyway. Great deal for this drive.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Acronis DD-11-Home and TI 2014 both manage the SSD alignment perfectly when cloning from HDD.

To tell the truth, when it comes to shelling out more than $100 for an SSD of any size, I'd been more careful.

A friend called me yesterday with a heads-up about a 24-hour deal at the Egg for the MX100. Reviews are sparse, but all stellar. I saw the Anandtech review. I'm planning some upgrades to household workstations in general, so I ordered two.

Someone complained that they don't come with software for firmware update. I'm sure there are some downloads at the Crucial web-site. For the price, the complaint is nit-picky.

I had upgraded my sig-rig with an 840-Pro, to discover that I still wanted more SSD capacity. The option that comes to mind first: replace the 512GB drive with a TB EVO. But for less than half what I paid for the Pro, I can add this MX100 -- maybe configure it without a drive label as an "extension" to the Pro.

As for some . . minor shortcomings as noted in the Anandtech review -- who cares? "Fast enough" is more than fast enough . . . Given what I paid for the 840-Pro, I almost wish I'd held out for a few more months until the MX100 was released at this ~$220 price-tag. Live and learn!
 

BonzaiDuck

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Indifferent to raising this thread to the top of the pile again, I now have a question.

These MX100 SSD's are thinner than any other SSD I've purchased. They come with a rectangular plastic "spacer" which has gummy adhesive pads at either end.

I had different intentions for the two units I purchased. One goes into a tower desktop system; the other will replace the HDD of a surplus laptop I should receive shortly.

For what do I need this plastic spacer?
 

BonzaiDuck

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Tool-less drive bays in notebooks, unless the notebook was made for 7mm drives only.

Thanks. I know then partially what to expect. A friend has purchased some surplus Gateway laptops, and will send me one configured with Win7-64-bit. My plan is to clone the HDD and replace it with the MX100.

I've today installed the first of the two MX100's in my desktop system, and it seems to be a stand-up product. I left a tenth of the drive's capacity unallocated for "over-provisioning," but I'm wondering if I really need to do it.
 

Topweasel

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Just to note. Because of the inconsistency in performance on the m500 between the 480, 240, and 120GB drives, Crucial stepped back to nand from the M4 for the M550 and MX100 at the 128 and 256 levels. That means that the 256GB drives perform like the 512GB drives and the 128's aren't spindle drive slow (they perform at 240GB M500 levels).
 

Topweasel

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Also not that it matters it also means that the M550 and mx100 will have better write endurance than any M500 and the 500GB+ drives in the m550 and MX100 series.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Also not that it matters it also means that the M550 and mx100 will have better write endurance than any M500 and the 500GB+ drives in the m550 and MX100 series.

Well . . . . for the $215 price-tag on the MX100 512GB model, I'm reasonably satisfied. CrystalDiskMark shows about 505 seq-read and 490 seq-write, with the test run while the disk controller was also "doing other stuff." So . . .
 

Topweasel

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Well . . . . for the $215 price-tag on the MX100 512GB model, I'm reasonably satisfied. CrystalDiskMark shows about 505 seq-read and 490 seq-write, with the test run while the disk controller was also "doing other stuff." So . . .

What I was saying is that each sector on a 256GB MX100 will last longer than a sector on the 512GB in terms of total right. When they shrink the process for the nand chips it basically halves the write endurance, so a nice side affect of using older nand is higher endurance.
 

BonzaiDuck

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What I was saying is that each sector on a 256GB MX100 will last longer than a sector on the 512GB in terms of total right. When they shrink the process for the nand chips it basically halves the write endurance, so a nice side affect of using older nand is higher endurance.

So . . . does this chip-shrink and its effect on write-endurance . . . explain the aggressively-low price-tag?
 

Topweasel

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So . . . does this chip-shrink and its effect on write-endurance . . . explain the aggressively-low price-tag?
That's easy since they make their own memory. It's an older process that has already earned back it original R&D and development costs. Crucial decided that was better for their brand to maintain performance across the whole product line than to have it fluctuate and get a couple more dollars in margin on $70 and $110 drives. It was also important in competing against Samsung who uses a large internal buffer and even system memory to keep the numbers up on their smaller drives.

Edit: Ignore me and my misinformation. I was grabbing a quote from the MX100 review and noticed that I was wrong the MX100 went back to the 128Gb chips after the M550 used 64Gb chips for the 128 and 256. I could have swore when I was reading the original review, that they adopted the same practice for the 100 as the 550.

So basically if your getting a 128GB or 256Gb drive. Best to get the M550.
 

SSBrain

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So . . . does this chip-shrink and its effect on write-endurance . . . explain the aggressively-low price-tag?

Crucial haven't changed their 72 TBW warranty on their consumer drives, which includes the MX100. Of course, that doesn't tell how many P/E cycles with the usual 1 year data retention the NAND can actually support.
 

Topweasel

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Crucial haven't changed their 72 TBW warranty on their consumer drives, which includes the MX100. Of course, that doesn't tell how many P/E cycles with the usual 1 year data retention the NAND can actually support.
That's the who thing the data amount might not shift as much because between better wear leveling tech in controllers and generally the increase in capacity means more sectors for leveling out means their shouldn't be dramatic changes.
 

BonzaiDuck

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What about "over-provisioning" for the MX100's? When I formatted my MX100, I left about 47GB unallocated. I'm wondering if I really needed to do this . . .
 

SSBrain

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Not needed unless you're going to operate the SSD in a trim-less environment or going to hammer it with tens of GB of writes daily with little to no free space available.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Not needed unless you're going to operate the SSD in a trim-less environment or going to hammer it with tens of GB of writes daily with little to no free space available.

Wey-ull -- Pill-grum! That fills in a missing piece of my accumulated knowledge!! I'll just extend the partition to the max, then!
 
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