HP 24" LCD 1920x1200 $260 Shipped

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tedrodai

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Thanks for all the good info folks. I've been looking around for another 24" 16:10 to replace my old 21" (secondary monitor) that died a few months ago, but I haven't been watching prices longer than a week. I'm not in a huge hurry, so I can stick it out and watch for some better sales. So far the OP's HP is one I've picked to watch, so it's good to know how this current sale compares.
 

The0ne

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Meh this is over priced for the current monitor offerings. 24" TN 19x12 resolution used to go for sub $200. But since the 1080p craze kicked in the price for all 19x12 monitors jumped up for no real apparent reason.

I have a couple Soyo Topaz 24" 19x12 MVA panel monitors still that I paid $200 each for. They still look great and will out perform even this TN panel in gaming latency I'm willing to bet.


As for the new Dell 24" IPS panel I wouldn't bother. It's a step back from previous generation monitors they've put out. It is only 6 bit color gamut and not 8 bit for example.

Pricing of yester-years most likely won't come back. It is exactly because of the 1080p craze that we're in the situation we're in. That does not mean, however, you should disregard a reasonable purchase of a 19x12 monitor. For starters, compare it to other similar products and not "when" they were the norm. For starters, if demand is low for 16:10 then prices are going to go up.
 

LokutusofBorg

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For starters, if demand is low for 16:10 then prices are going to go up.

You've got Econ 101 backwards there... supply is low, so prices have gone up. Hardly anyone is making 16:10 monitors anymore.

Reading back through the thread, I didn't follow those links to see that new Dell monitor. Hot damn! I've been waiting for a 24" 16:10 LED IPS monitor for a long time. Woot!
 
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tedrodai

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Sad. Pooh on the 1080p craze...I like having a little extra room beyond that. I've not been oblivious to this trend though. Regardless, even $260 is beyond my budget at the moment, which is why I'm starting to watch prices. My wife and I are expecting a little one for the first time now, and she's not gonna let me blow money on another toy til we have a better idea of how we need to continue modifying our budget. No need to chime in with "it's gonna be expensive" ...we got a decent idea but still need to just go for the ride ourselves. Yay for getting completely off topic and announcing this on the Hot Deals forum!
 

Sunny129

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Reading back through the thread, I didn't follow those links to see that new Dell monitor. Hot damn! I've been waiting for a 24" 16:10 LED IPS monitor for a long time. Woot!
yes...just keep in mind that, as HumblePie pointed out, this new 24" Dell monitor only has 6-bit color gamut, unlike some of the previous (and existing) 8-bit and 10-bit models...so it is not quite the same quality as Dell's other IPS models.


My wife and I are expecting a little one for the first time now...Yay for getting completely off topic and announcing this on the Hot Deals forum!
however off-topic, i believe this calls for a congratulations! :thumbsup:
 

PieIsAwesome

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Thanks for all the good info folks. I've been looking around for another 24" 16:10 to replace my old 21" (secondary monitor) that died a few months ago, but I haven't been watching prices longer than a week. I'm not in a huge hurry, so I can stick it out and watch for some better sales. So far the OP's HP is one I've picked to watch, so it's good to know how this current sale compares.

There is also this one:

http://wecravegamestoo.com/forums/gadgetry-electronics-discussion/7797-hp-2509b-review.html

Or the newer 2511x which I believe uses the same panel.
 

LokutusofBorg

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yes...just keep in mind that, as HumblePie pointed out, this new 24" Dell monitor only has 6-bit color gamut, unlike some of the previous (and existing) 8-bit and 10-bit models...so it is not quite the same quality as Dell's other IPS models.
Does this simply mean the monitor doesn't do wide color gamut? Or does it actually affect the color quality? I don't think I'd notice all that much. I do development work, general use and gaming. No photo or design work other than web graphics. I have 2408's here at home and they put off a good deal of heat, so LED monitors have appeal in that regard. I had U2410s at my last job and they were stellar, and won me over to IPS panels completely.
 

Sunny129

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Does this simply mean the monitor doesn't do wide color gamut? Or does it actually affect the color quality? I don't think I'd notice all that much. I do development work, general use and gaming. No photo or design work other than web graphics. I have 2408's here at home and they put off a good deal of heat, so LED monitors have appeal in that regard. I had U2410s at my last job and they were stellar, and won me over to IPS panels completely.
you're going to have to ask someone who knows more than i do about IPS LCDs. i was merely pointing out the difference in specs just in case you hadn't noticed it yourself. i'll tell you right now that i don't speak from first hand experience - i'm just another potential IPS panel buyer who is concerned about the difference in specs, simply b/c so many people are quick to point out that Dell's new 24" IPS does not have 8-bit color gamut. and while i haven't done any extensive testing in front of different IPS panels with different color gamuts, the forum banter is enough for me to at least be concerned about it. if i had to venture a guess, i'd say that it won't make a significant difference for you considering you'll be using it as a "general use" monitor. i on the other hand do some photo editing (astrophotography to be specific), and so color gamut, contrast, backlight bleeding, etc. is all very important to me...response time not so much.
 

LokutusofBorg

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I've had wide gamut monitors and I don't especially like it. I open a photo in Windows Picture Viewer and the colors are all screwed up. I've never bothered to learn how to configure them properly I guess. So if all 6 bit does is limit the gamut then I'm fine with that. Thanks for the heads-up.
 

bryanW1995

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That has nothing to do with it being a TN panel. IPS panels suffer from the same problems. Especially those cheap Dell IPS monitors with their poor quality control.

I assume that my 2209wa would fall under your description of "cheap dell ips monitors" since I only paid $225 for it a couple of years ago. However, I must admit that I am hard-pressed to find any fault with the monitor at all other than keeping my wife from stealing it to use for editing her pictures.

edit: ah, I didn't realize that they were using 6 bit now on the newer models. Maybe I'll wait for a sale on the 24" with 6 bit color and roll the dice that it will still be good, and give my wife the 2209wa before she steals it in the night...
 
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Sonikku

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I have a 24", but I want to upgrade to 2560x1600 :/

What is the big deal about 2560x1600? I mean, sheesh. Most are very sore pressed to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on 32" televisions. On a 24" display, the difference between 1920x1200 and 2560x1600 must be even smaller. Even, more psychological then anything else.
 

Roland00Address

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What is the big deal about 2560x1600? I mean, sheesh. Most are very sore pressed to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on 32" televisions. On a 24" display, the difference between 1920x1200 and 2560x1600 must be even smaller. Even, more psychological then anything else.

You may be hard pressed to tell the difference of 720 vs 1080 when you are looking at the thing from 8 feet away, but get 3 feet away like most people in computer desks and you can definitely tell the difference between 720p, 1080p, and 1600p.
 

Anubis

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What is the big deal about 2560x1600? I mean, sheesh. Most are very sore pressed to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on 32" televisions. On a 24" display, the difference between 1920x1200 and 2560x1600 must be even smaller. Even, more psychological then anything else.

when you sit 3 feet from it and look at excel or code all day it is very obvious
 

bradley

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when you sit 3 feet from it and look at excel or code all day it is very obvious

The movie and TV marketing and mindset that have created a single HD standard between all LCD monitors are wasting valuable computing real estate. A television isn't even remotely interchangeable with a computer monitor. Therefore even 1920x1200 is a start in the right direction.
 

aka1nas

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I've had this model for about a year in my Eyefinity setup, and it's given great service.
 

masterxfob

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What is the big deal about 2560x1600? I mean, sheesh. Most are very sore pressed to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on 32" televisions. On a 24" display, the difference between 1920x1200 and 2560x1600 must be even smaller. Even, more psychological then anything else.
lulz

maybe you'd like to go old school with an xga crt?
 

tedrodai

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What is the big deal about 2560x1600? I mean, sheesh. Most are very sore pressed to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on 32" televisions. On a 24" display, the difference between 1920x1200 and 2560x1600 must be even smaller. Even, more psychological then anything else.

The deal isn't making things look better, it's increasing the available workspace (i.e. total number of pixels). Compare opening 2 documents or programs side by side on a 1920x1200 screen vs a 2560x1600 screen...you can make your windows quite a bit larger with the near 80% extra pixels gained. Or you can open more docs/programs. It's the same reason a lot of people who work on computers use multiple monitors--increase the workspace. It makes a huge difference in productivity and ergonomics compared to having to switch back and forth between windows.

I think that guy meant 2560x1600 on a 30" screen also...not sure if you can get 24" screens at that resolution. I personally wouldn't care for that on a 24" either lol. I wouldn't mind a screen with that rez, but heck, I could buy 3 (or more) 1920x1200 screens for the price of 1 2560x1600. Definitely nowhere near buying several 30" . I'll have to be veeeeery patient for that.
 
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