HP Envy 14 User Review

CurseTheSky

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Hello everyone,

I've had my Envy 14 for about a month now, and I've promised numerous people to post a review. This review will be from a user-standpoint, and will not include scientific / precise measurements; for example, I won't say that the notebook weighs 5.2 lbs as it's hard for anyone to imagine exactly how that will feel in their own hands. Instead, I'll be taking a comparative approach to show how the Envy 14 stacks up against the competition.

Specs:
- Intel Core i5-450M (2.40GHz, 2.66GHz Turbo, 3MB Cache, 32nm, 35W TDP)
- HP Motherboard with HM55 Express Chipset
- 4GB DDR3-1333, 1 SO-DIMM
- ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5650, switchable to Intel Integrated GMA
- 14.5", 1600x900 "Radiance" Display with Edge-to-Edge Glass
- Intel X25-M G2, 160GB SSD
- Intel Centrino 6200 a/b/g/n, Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR
- Island-style backlit keyboard
- Synaptics touchpad with integrated buttons and multi-touch / gesture support
- 2-in-1 Card Reader
- 8 Cell, 59whr battery

Build Quality and Chassis
The overall build quality of the Envy 14 is very good. The lid, deck (palm rest / keyboard surround), sides, and underlying chassis of the laptop are solid aluminum, which gives it a very sturdy feel. The removable bottom panels seem to either be made of plastic, or very thin metal coated with a rubberized material. One strip on the top cover is made of plastic, which helps to promote antenna signal. The main body of the notebook has absolutely no hint of flex, but pushing on the top cover (directly behind the LCD) causes it to bow in a bit. It feels like there's a bit of empty space behind the LCD panel, which makes me wonder if HP could have made the lid slimmer. The edge-to-edge "glass" (which feels more like plastic) that garnishes the LCD gives it a premium feel, and eliminates the glossy plastic bezel that felt tacky on the Envy 15. Running around the LCD is a rubber gasket that prevents the screen from contacting the body, and may help to keep out water in the case of a spill while the notebook is closed. The screen hinges are sturdy, and they allow the display to tilt back about 130 degrees.

The chassis has a number of seams running along it, such as between the laptop's sides and the deck, which are determent to the overall aesthetics when compared to the likes of the nearly seamless Macbook Pro. The palm rest and lid both sport a "floral" (think twisting growths of vines) pattern etched into them, which give it a slightly bumpy texture that is quite unique. Despite being a "floral" pattern, the notebook doesn't look feminine, though I still think a blank or brushed surface would have looked better. HP includes a transparent "HP" logo at the bottom right corner of the lid, which is illuminated by the display when the system is on. It's a blatant ripoff of the illuminated Apple logo on the Macbook Pro, but it is a nice touch overall.

There are a few minor gaps present in the Envy 14's chassis, such as between the deck (wrist area) and the sides. Overall, the aluminum chassis really sets it apart from your average plastic notebook, though it does contribute a lot to the heft. If the Macbook Pro's chassis and build quality gets a 10/10, I'd give the Envy 14 an 8.5/10.

Display
The 1600x900 LED-backlit Radiance display is absolutely excellent. It's extremely bright on the highest setting, and still readable on even the lowest setting. It does sport a glossy coating which can cause distracting reflections if used in a bright area (outdoors or under numerous florescent lights, for example), but the overall brightness of the screen does a great job in reducing problems caused by reflections. Color accuracy is decent, and viewing angles are surprisingly good for a TN panel; the screen gets a slight red-to-pink glow when looking at it off center, but it doesn't seem to get the horrible washout / negative effect than many laptop displays get at even non-extreme angles. Whites tend to look a bit warm before calibration, and black levels, while darker than any other laptop I've used to date, could still be better. The display gets a 10/10, besting the likes of the Macbook Pro and Sony Vaio Z in several reviews around the net, and only losing to the HP DreamColor 2 display available on certain Elitebook models, which is way out of this notebook's price class.

Keyboard
The Envy 14's keyboard far above average. It feels solid and has good key travel; I had absolutely no problem getting up to my normal typing speed. The key spacing is wonderful, and the surface of the keys feels smooth and pleasing to the touch. There is a slight bit of flex around the Q / A and P / ; keys, but it takes a significant amount of pressure to notice and won't be evident in normal typing. The back lighting on the keyboard is a soft white color, and is toggled on and off by the Fn key + F5. Overall, the keyboard gets a solid 9/10.

Touch pad
The touch pad is a bit of a love and hate relationship. The hardware itself is phenomenal - the surface is very large and has a nice texture. The left and right click buttons are integrated under the touch pad, allowing the user to click the touch pad surface down on the left or right side, respectively. Unfortunately, the drivers for the touch pad still need a bit of refinement; while most tasks and gestures work perfectly, there are occasional hiccups with two-finger scrolling, causing some pages to jump to the top or bottom, or skip sections as you scroll. I'll give it a 6/10 for the good hardware, with the points lost due to software bugs on a premium machine.

Graphics and Gaming
The laptop includes both a discrete ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5650 graphics card, as well as an Intel integrated GMA as long as the user configures the system with a dual core i3 or i5 processor (quad core processors do not have integrated graphics). Switching between the two is fairly simple, and can be achieved manually by clicking an icon in the system tray, or automatically (with an optional prompt) when the laptop is plugged in (discrete) or unplugged (integrated). It isn't the most elegant solution - the dialog box looks like something from Windows 2000, and the display flickers black for a second while the other display driver is loaded - but it works wonderfully.

The Envy 14 certainly isn't a purely gaming machine, and shouldn't be mistaken for such. However, it will do quite well with slightly older titles or newer titles with the settings turned down to medium. Don't expect to play Crysis, but Starcraft II is certainly doable. Unfortunately, the HD 5650 that comes in the Envy 14 is the lowest-clocked variant, coming in at only 450MHz (rather than 550 or 650) core clock speed. Overall, 8/10 for including switchable graphics to save battery life, and a decent discrete GPU to allow moderate gaming. Expecting HP to squeeze a better graphics card than the Mobility HD 5650 in an already cramped 14.5" chassis would lead to horrible heat issues, no doubt.

Speakers and Sound
The Envy 14, like the other systems in the HP Envy line, comes with supposedly high-end "Beats Audio." Simply put, this is largely a software approach to enhanced sound and a marketing gimmick. The speakers on the Envy 14 sound slightly less tinny than some other laptops I've used, though they still leave a lot to be desired. The 3.5mm headphone jack on my original Envy 14 worked wonderfully; however, on my second Envy 14 it has an annoying background hiss that can be heard on all the IEM's I've tried. Many other users have reported this as well, which is a huge detriment for a notebook that is supposed to come with high-end audio equipment. With those two facts put together, I can't give the speakers and sound system more than a 5/10, and it only comes in that high because it (sadly) still beats out a good portion of the junk laptop speakers on the market.

Inputs / Outputs and Expandability
The Envy 14 left side is adorned with two USB 2.0 ports, two 3.5mm headphone jacks (one being a stereo headphone / mono microphone combo "headset" jack, and yes, both can work simultaneously), and a slot-loading DVD+R/W drive. The right side houses a USB 2.0 / eSATA combo port (power-over-eSATA), HDMI, mini DisplayPort, Kensington Lock slot, gigabit ethernet port, a vent, and the power connector. The 2-in-1 card reader (SD / SDHC / SDXC) can be found on the front, while nothing more than a vent is included on the rear. The laptop features space for a single 2.5" internal hard drive, two DDR3 SO-DIMMs (up to 4GB each / 8GB total), an Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200 a/b/g/n WLAN adapter, Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR, an optional HSPA EV-DO WWAN adapter, and a SIM slot. The inclusion of two digital display interfaces (HDMI and mini DisplayPort) is a huge plus, as is the two 3.5mm headphone jacks and the power-over-eSATA port. The lack of USB 3.0 is disappointing, though partially negated due to the eSATA connectivity, and Intel's Wireless Display Technology would have been a nice touch as well. Still, finding as much connectivity on a notebook as the Envy 14 has is fairly hard to do, so it gets a 9/10, with the points lost primarily due to lack of USB 3.0 on a premium notebook.

Noise and Cooling
The Envy 14 features two fans, one near the center of the rear, and towards the back of the right-hand side. The fans are nearly inaudible during idle, and very reasonable at full load. The fans will occasionally cycle on and off every 5-10 seconds, which annoys some users, but the fans are far quieter than most similar notebooks that I've tried, so I don't find them to be a problem at all. There have been a few complaints among the owners about a whine coming from the right-hand side of the notebook, and while I've heard it myself in a nearly silent room (with my ear nearly pressed to the keyboard), I cannot detect it at all otherwise. The sound is similar to the coil / choke whine on some modern graphics cards when frames per second go through the roof, though much quieter. 9/10 for noise, considering they were able to fit a number of hot components in a relatively small chassis and still keep them cool with decent sound levels.

The chassis has a very pleasing, cool to the touch feeling when it's off due to the aluminum construction. At idle, some parts notebook feel slightly warm to the touch, while others are still cool. Under load (Starcraft II), the left side of the palm rest was a bit warmer, and the right side was significantly warmer, though still very much within comfortable levels. Also during load, the area in the rear center of the deck (between the keyboard and LCD) was hot to the touch, as was a small portion to the right of the keyboard. The heat was most likely due to the vents that both exhaust in these spots (as aluminum transfers far better than the plastic found on most other laptops), though the exhausted air itself was not scorching. Neither of these areas will be touched during normal use, and they weren't so hot that I had to withdraw my fingers, but it definitely was a shock. The bottom of the notebook was slightly warm, though definitely comfortable; it shouldn't be a problem to use on one's lap. 7.5/10 for cooling, with the points lost due to the two hot spots.

Battery Life
Simply put, the battery life on the Envy 14 is decent, but not spectacular. With a fresh Windows 7 install (to remove HP bloatware), custom power profile, Bluetooth turned off, ATi discrete graphics disabled, and the display at about 80% brightness, I was able to pull approximately 4 and 1/2 hours with light web browsing. I'd expect to get a solid 2.5 - 3 hours while watching a movie, and 2 - 2.5 hours while gaming or doing anything else that requires the discrete card to be enabled. The battery life is significantly better than most cheaper laptops or mid-range gaming systems (which still only manage 2-3 hours tops, in my experiences), but the 59whr battery just doesn't cut it when the primary competition is the 8-hour Macbook Pro.

The saving grace for the Envy 14's battery life is the optional slice battery. The slice is a 6 cell, 62whr battery housed in a thin package that attaches via a special connector on the bottom of the laptop, doubling your battery life at the cost of extra bulk and weight. It sits flush with the bottom of the notebook, comes with it's own battery level LED indicator, and can even be removed while the notebook is in use. Unfortunately, it'll set you back about $200, but the fact that it's an option is a huge plus. 7/10 for battery life; HP should have included a higher capacity primary battery. Something in the 75-80whr range would have been much better.

Conclusion
The Envy 14 doesn't really excel in any one area - it's the jack of all trades. Want something with a solid chassis and good build quality? You've got it. Want to do some moderate gaming and still maintain decent battery life for taking notes in class? It can do that. Want a great keyboard to type on, and a touch pad large enough to easily handle those multi-touch gestures? Check. Best of all, want a laptop display that actually doesn't suck? Hell yeah. Considering the Envy 14 starts just under $1000, and considering that there's something to like about it even when compared to virtually all other laptops available today, I rate the Envy 14 at a 9/10 overall.

Pros
- Solid aluminum chassis with great build quality
- BEAUTIFUL 1600x900 Radiance display
- 14.5" chassis is a good compromise between specs / features and portability
- HD 5650 and Intel integrated GMA, switchable (on Core i3 and i5 models), able to play modern games with at least medium settings
- Solid keyboard with backlighting
- Great connectivity options, including HDMI + mini DisplayPort, Wireless N, gigabit ethernet, Bluetooth, and a USB 2.0 / eSATA combo port
- Available slice battery for expanded battery life
- Slot-loading DVD-RW
- User replaceable battery, hard drive, and memory; full service manual available (free) for advanced disassembly
- Good output sound quality
- Relatively cheap $1000 starting price
- Overall specs are significantly better than the Macbook Pros it competes with

Cons
- Touchpad drivers could use some refinement
- Two areas of the chassis were hot under heavy load, though the weren't in areas the user's hands normally touch
- Battery life is significantly worse than Macbook Pros; 75+ whr main battery should be standard
- May not play the most demanding games at desired settings - do not buy strictly for gaming
- Decently heavy for its size
- Some users report a slightly audible whine (similar to some graphics cards) coming from the right-hand side of the system
 
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CurseTheSky

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Nice looking little laptop and nice review. Definitely thinking about replacing my Inspiron 1545 with this.

If you have the cash, go for it. The only Windows notebooks (IMO) that come close to it quality wise are the Dell Adamo (though specs suck, comparatively), or a Lenovo T or X series (though you lose the "all metal" metal construction).
 

finbarqs

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the other saving grace of macbook pro's are the incredible OSX, which manages to hit the battery life that Macbooks claim to have! OSX doesn't have all of the Microsoft Bloatware they install...
 

CurseTheSky

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the other saving grace of macbook pro's are the incredible OSX, which manages to hit the battery life that Macbooks claim to have! OSX doesn't have all of the Microsoft Bloatware they install...

True, but you also lose out on the capabilities of Windows - mostly gaming. Yes, you can dual boot OSX and Windows, but when in Windows, you lose your awesome battery life and certain features (such as automatic fan control) may not work properly.

In the end, if you're going to spend most of your time in Windows, just get the Envy 14 - you'll get superior specs, and the battery life will be similar to a MBP running Windows anyway. If you're going to spend your time in OSX, then there's only one choice.
 

get2vijay

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m sorry to interrupt....m looking for a netbook (10 inch display)....which is the best to buy Dell or any other ?


pls help
 

CurseTheSky

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m sorry to interrupt....m looking for a netbook (10 inch display)....which is the best to buy Dell or any other ?


pls help

The best netbook right now in terms of price, build quality, good screen, and battery life is the ASUS 1001P.

...You really should make a separate thread though rather than take this one off topic.
 

PuppettMaster001

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My girlfriends sister pretty much had her mind decided that she wanted to get a Dell Adamo BUT I convinced her to get the Envy . After all of the good I have heard about it now she gets a new laptop and I get to test her new Envy out to see if I want one too.

She has only ever bought the cheap $300 Acer laptops so this should be a huge step up from anything she has ever owned.
 

CurseTheSky

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The Adamo isn't a bad laptop, but it seems to compete more with the Macbook Air than the Macbook Pro / other conventional laptops. The performance just isn't quite there. If it came with ~8-10 hours of battery life like my previous ASUS UL30A-A2 did, I'd recommend it to everyone and probably own one myself. However, since it doesn't, I'd rather have the performance of the Envy series than the thinness of the Adamo.

Good recommendation. Make sure she gets the Envy 14 (15 has some flaws, 13 is overpriced / underpowered) and make SURE she gets the 1600x900 Radiance screen.
 

Emulex

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macbook is art - it is elitism - it sucks for performance and price - but has superb customer service - i have a problem with laptops over 3lbs. dell copies - they do not innovate. the hp envy slick dual x18-m ssd that's pretty cool. but a good rev.b or later macbook air running osx with coolbook can get the job done - in style
 

CurseTheSky

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macbook is art - it is elitism - it sucks for performance and price - but has superb customer service - i have a problem with laptops over 3lbs. dell copies - they do not innovate. the hp envy slick dual x18-m ssd that's pretty cool. but a good rev.b or later macbook air running osx with coolbook can get the job done - in style

Yep. It really comes down to power vs. style (and battery life). If you love the Macbook Pro / Macbook Air style and OSX, there's only one choice. If you want more power (for gaming, for example) and want to use Windows, the Envy series is a good alternative.
 

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Yep. It really comes down to power vs. style (and battery life). If you love the Macbook Pro / Macbook Air style and OSX, there's only one choice. If you want more power (for gaming, for example) and want to use Windows, the Envy series is a good alternative.

I think it comes down less starkly as just 'power'. I think rather that it is more an issue of 'how will you use the power?'. More is always better sure, but any CPU out in the last... 1-2 years is more than capable of handling the stuff that 99% of the people will throw at it. 1080p, BluRay playback, photo editing, iMovie-esque stuff, web surfing, excel, word... a 2.x GHz Core 2 will handle with aplomb.

Would I like a Core i3/5 in my next MBP13? Absolutely. Do I need it? Almost certainly not. I like to game, sure. But I have a desktop that I would want to do most of my gaming on, so if I didn't insist on OS X, and got the Envy 14 for examplel, the only difference would be that what gaming I did on the go would be slightly prettier, but still not at the level of my desktop. It would still be mobile gaming at the end of the day.

This is just me though. My preference for OS X overshadows a lot, but even if someone told me that Apple had made it so you could put OS X onto any system, I would still go for the MBP13 I think (or if I had double the cash, the Vaio Z, and you think the Apple Tax is bad! ). From what I have seen, the build quality, battery life, and trackpad are top of the class.

The Envy 14 is a very nice system from what I have seen. It was wise of them to target the MBP, just like when they sold their Envy 133 it was targeted at the MBA (and had some cooler features, like a power brick that doubles as a wifi router). Macs aren't the end all be all, but you can't deny that they are influencing the industry, and what most people can all agree on is that they look good.
 

Tom

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How does the Envy 14 compare to the HP DM4 ? I like lightweight but I don't know all the differences between these and if they are designed to appeal to different users ?
 

CurseTheSky

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How does the Envy 14 compare to the HP DM4 ? I like lightweight but I don't know all the differences between these and if they are designed to appeal to different users ?

Don't quote me on this, but I believe the DM4 uses aluminum panels rather than a complete aluminum chassis like the Envy series. What does that mean in practicality? Not much, but you may be losing some of the premium feel and rigidity. The biggest drawback compared to the Envy 14, IMO, is the possibility that the 1600x900 Radiance screen (the second best selling point of the Envy 14) may not be an option, no backlit keyboard, and you most likely lose out on some other nice features like the optional slice battery.

Overall, I'd say if you want a good, solid notebook on a budget and are willing to make a few sacrifices, the DM4 is a great option. Engadget likes it: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/hp-pavilion-dm4-review/. If you want something a bit more premium or "classy," get the Envy 14.
 

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I just received my Envy 14 a few days ago and I really like it so far.

No build/quality issues for me. The light in HP logo on the lid is centered, the touchpad is flush and centered, and the battery cover doesn't move or shift.

The trackpad is a little finicky, but I've gotten used to it really quickly and I like that it's easy to turn off. The two-finger scrolling is also a nice feature.

Actually, the only thing I've noticed is a very slight CPU whine if the room is silent and the machine is idle and to my left. It doesn't bother me though, and if I'm facing the machine or if there's any noise in the room, the whine is inaudible.

Didn't get the slice but I'm satisfied with the battery life. It's been pretty good for me, I get 3.5-4 hours while surfing the web (heavy flash stuff lately, due to a class I'm taking) and doing basic office work.

Even loaded up LOTRO on it and it runs surprisingly well.

Overall I'm very happy with the Envy 14.
 

finbarqs

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well i'm convinced i want one! I'm putting my ol' q6600 system up for trade for an envy!!!
 

vbuggy

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Anyone know how we can get CTO Envy 14's in Europe?

I'm specifically after the Radiance display, which is listed only in passing as 'the optional Radiance yada yada' in the brochure after I looked. I didn't read the specs of the (single i5 fixed-spec on the local HP website) 14 here too much before I got it - I just wanted a cheap Windows notebook for semi-mobile media use which looked nice - and while it's fine for what I do with it now, I want another one and I would definitely like the higher-res panel.
 
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Emulex

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if you want to see a radiance infinity display go to any apple store and take a look at a 13.3" macbook pro. it's pretty much identical in every aspect. (macbooks have extremely bright led displays. so bright you have to turn it way down).
 

vbuggy

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if you want to see a radiance infinity display go to any apple store and take a look at a 13.3" macbook pro. it's pretty much identical in every aspect.

Except for the resolution. And the panel.

 

CurseTheSky

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if you want to see a radiance infinity display go to any apple store and take a look at a 13.3" macbook pro. it's pretty much identical in every aspect. (macbooks have extremely bright led displays. so bright you have to turn it way down).

Several people that I've talked to that have owned both agree that the Radiance Infinity Display is a significant step above the MBP in terms of contrast (and of course, resolution). MBPs have good panels, but the Envy 14's Radiance is where it's at.
 

finbarqs

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I really want to see the envy without the radiance. But everywhere I've seen, all Envy's has the Radiance... Plus HP just increased the price of the Radiance by another 100 bucks.

Don't forget MBP's has the Magsafe power connector! How awesome is that?
 

Emulex

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you don't run the monitors at their maximum. unless you are wearing a visor or shades. lol. does the mbp have a lessor quality than the AIR? i have an air i saw a brand new very expensive matte MBP and the screen was just as good. 512gb ssd, 8gb ram, maybe it was the 15" version. screen was similar to my 2008-late AIR in quality.

bottom line is even with a good LED backlight you gotta use a nice IPS/MVA/PVA panel or its going to look worst than my old westy lcd tv.

too bad they don't make a business version of the envy. i'd have to demo a couple
 

vbuggy

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you don't run the monitors at their maximum. unless you are wearing a visor or shades. lol. does the mbp have a lessor quality than the AIR? i have an air i saw a brand new very expensive matte MBP and the screen was just as good. 512gb ssd, 8gb ram, maybe it was the 15" version. screen was similar to my 2008-late AIR in quality.

bottom line is even with a good LED backlight you gotta use a nice IPS/MVA/PVA panel or its going to look worst than my old westy lcd tv.

too bad they don't make a business version of the envy. i'd have to demo a couple

The 'very expensive matte MBP' are not IPS/MVA/PVA. They're just the regular MBP panels (which I'm increasingly feeling are the rejects from the 'pro' models of other manufacturers, not the other way around), only without the lipstick-on-a-pig glass layer. Some Apple design mavens apparently think they look worse too, which for them makes it another reason not to get it - personally I like the silver surround better, which is a bonus for me.

Also personally, I could do without the glass layer on the Envy as well. But for what I do with it - purely as a media playback machine - it's not debilitating. I couldn't use it as my my primary though.
 

Emulex

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Whats odd is how apple promots IPS for their "pad/pod/phone" products but can't rock a 13" IPS.

so what screen does the radiance have? TN with LED backlight enhancement. IIRC the 8730w i have dreamcolor has a crappy panel "in desktop terms". it was free but honestly this 30" ancient LP3065 looks alot better than the "dreamcolor" option from hp.

For hp they usually share parts between the business and home systems. Only so many people make panels and backlights. It would be interesting to find out what the business equivalent of radiance is.

I'll have to ask my rep if there's a business version of the envy planned. it is the hotness imo. I just can't deal with consumer hp quality and support which is a whole nother world from hp business.
 
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