HP TouchPad 16GB - $99.

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ponyo

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Everyone must install Orb. It's basically like Air Video for iOS but better. You can stream your entire media collection on your computer (movies, music, pictures, even live cam and TV broadcast) to your Touchpad.
 

ViRGE

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Mine has frozen multiple times, sort of a PITA...

Is there an "app doubler" so the pre apps show up full screen on the TouchPad?
Unfortunately not. They have to be rewritten/patched to run doubled.
 

ponyo

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Touchpad and Touchstone pair up to make great digital photo frame. Instant picture slideshow.
 

Pliablemoose

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Mine gets gifted to GF's daughter today, am sort of glad, outside of a possible Android port, I sort of hate this thing.

Don't get me wrong, it's well worth $100, but I'll stick to an iPad.

Beginning to see what Sawyer was talking about with the members at precentral too, what a bunch of fools.
 
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ponyo

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Mine gets gifted to GF's daughter today, am sort of glad, outside of a possible Android port, I sort of hate this thing.

Don't get me wrong, it's well worth $100, but I'll stick to an iPad.

I'm totally the opposite. I really like this tablet and WebOS. It's a shame it's discontinued but because of that I got to try out WebOS.

So no iPad 3 or Ice Cream tablet for me. I'm skipping the next round or two.
 

Pliablemoose

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I'm totally the opposite. I really like this tablet and WebOS. It's a shame it's discontinued but because of that I got to try out WebOS.

So no iPad 3 or Ice Cream tablet for me. I'm skipping the next round or two.

I get random freezes, timeouts on the web, all kinds of bugs, for those who didn't get one, don't feel bad, there are quite a few reasons why HP dumped the thing.
 

Aikouka

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Hmm the battery life in this thing seems a lot worse than I originally thought. A day after I wrote the "my thoughts" post, the TouchPad dropped 8% (88% to 80%) battery life. My iPad? It dropped 0% (100% to 100%). Both devices have done nothing and have been sitting on top of my printer the entire time.

12 hours after that check, my TouchPad is down to 75% (5% drop) and my iPad is at 99% battery life.
 

Pliablemoose

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Hmm the battery life in this thing seems a lot worse than I originally thought. A day after I wrote the "my thoughts" post, the TouchPad dropped 8% (88% to 80%) battery life. My iPad? It dropped 0% (100% to 100%). Both devices have done nothing and have been sitting on top of my printer the entire time.

12 hours after that check, my TouchPad is down to 75% (5% drop) and my iPad is at 99% battery life.

It's worse with use, had Pandora running this morning, and it dropped me from 100% to 35% in just a couple of hours.

Also, the phone apps run in a tiny window, they're pretty irritating...
 

Fox5

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I get random freezes, timeouts on the web, all kinds of bugs, for those who didn't get one, don't feel bad, there are quite a few reasons why HP dumped the thing.

A lot of those issues are fixed with (quick) random patches and modifications.

Hmm the battery life in this thing seems a lot worse than I originally thought. A day after I wrote the "my thoughts" post, the TouchPad dropped 8% (88% to 80%) battery life. My iPad? It dropped 0% (100% to 100%). Both devices have done nothing and have been sitting on top of my printer the entire time.

Just like a computer, battery life drains while in standby.

I wish google docs worked on this thing...
Also, I wish WebOS was more like Nokia's aborted Maemo, and could run stock linux apps.
 

bfdd

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the only issue i seem to be having with mine right now, is it not going to sleep. screen will stay on and just drain battery since doing some of the preware stuff, might roll it back and see if my battery life comes back.
 

ViRGE

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the only issue i seem to be having with mine right now, is it not going to sleep. screen will stay on and just drain battery since doing some of the preware stuff, might roll it back and see if my battery life comes back.
At least with the AnandTech review, the battery life was mediocre even without any modifications. I think webOS just has problems staying asleep altogether.
 

Pliablemoose

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Could be bias against WebOS clouding your eyes.

No, actually, if you'd do a search, you'd see I was waiting for a WebOS device for some time. And I am a long time user of Android & iOS, always looking for something different and interesting.

The TouchPad is half baked, and poorly done. WebOS is flipping horrible on this thing. I'd buy the argument that it's great for browsing the web, but it's laggy as hell even overclocked.

Apple reportedly spent 1000 hours on scrolling speed alone on iOS, it shows in how polished the OS is. Another year of development and refining, I think WebOS might be amazing, as it is, it's near useless for me, I want my stuff to at least work. I've done 4 hard resets so far.

Like I said, for $100, it's awesome, but I would have been seriously pissed to get one at full MSRP, and would have returned it.

Also, the rumored Amazon Android tablet(s) will likely be pretty good, looks like a $299 starting price.
 
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Aikouka

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Just like a computer, battery life drains while in standby.

Well, yes... I realize that. What I was mentioning is what seems like a huge difference in standby battery use between the iPad 2 and the TouchPad. I'm actually curious now if it could be a WiFi issue? WiFi can be a bit of a hog when it comes to keeping the connection open (3G is much more efficient at this). I have WiFi turned on both devices (a fairly common setting in my opinion) though.

And it's always in portrait. Gah.

That is a little annoying since I rotation lock both my iPad and TouchPad in landscape mode.

Although, Apple should get a bit of flak since they default iPhone only apps to 480x320 resolution on the iPad even if they have retina-support. Of course, this can be changed if you have JBd your iPad using the $5 app RetinaPad.

Could be bias against WebOS clouding your eyes.

I'm a bit disappointed with it as well, but I don't consider it a sort of bias against WebOS. The TouchPad was released as a direct competitor, and if you own both, you're going to compare them. Although, I don't think anyone would argue that the TouchPad is better than the iPad.
 

IndyColtsFan

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No, actually, if you'd do a search, you'd see I was waiting for a WebOS device for some time.

The TouchPad is half baked, and poorly done. WebOS is flipping horrible on this thing. I'd buy the argument that it's great for browsing the web, but it's laggy as hell even overclocked.

Apple reportedly spent 1000 hours on scrolling speed alone on iOS, it shows in how polished the OS is. Another year of development and refining, I think WebOS might be amazing, as it is, it's near useless for me, I want my stuff to at least work. I've done 4 hard resets so far.

Like I said, for $100, it's awesome, but I would have been seriously pissed to get one at full MSRP, and would have returned it.

No doubt HP rushed it out, but I've patched it up and added some of the scrolling patches and I haven't seen the issues you've mentioned. I've not had to do any resets on it at all and haven't seen any lockup issues.

I do agree that it was insane for HP to release is in its current state but fortunately, preware apps seem to have resolved most of the issues. I do hope a strong community develops and apps are plentiful in the future. I had planned on buying the Amazon tablet in the fall but I just couldn't pass this guy up. The iPad might be better but there is zero chance I'd pay more $500+ for a tablet.
 

Pliablemoose

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No doubt HP rushed it out, but I've patched it up and added some of the scrolling patches and I haven't seen the issues you've mentioned. I've not had to do any resets on it at all and haven't seen any lockup issues.

I do agree that it was insane for HP to release is in its current state but fortunately, preware apps seem to have resolved most of the issues. I do hope a strong community develops and apps are plentiful in the future. I had planned on buying the Amazon tablet in the fall but I just couldn't pass this guy up. The iPad might be better but there is zero chance I'd pay more $500+ for a tablet.

That's another problem, WebOS is likely dead.

The licensing model (if anyone licenses it) is unlikely, manufacturers would want it to actually work well, not license a buggy piece of software.

The best thing would be for HP to sell it to Samsung, who has the resources to actually make it a decent OS.
 

ponyo

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No, actually, if you'd do a search, you'd see I was waiting for a WebOS device for some time. And I am a long time user of Android & iOS, always looking for something different and interesting.

The TouchPad is half baked, and poorly done. WebOS is flipping horrible on this thing. I'd buy the argument that it's great for browsing the web, but it's laggy as hell even overclocked.

Apple reportedly spent 1000 hours on scrolling speed alone on iOS, it shows in how polished the OS is. Another year of development and refining, I think WebOS might be amazing, as it is, it's near useless for me, I want my stuff to at least work. I've done 4 hard resets so far.

Like I said, for $100, it's awesome, but I would have been seriously pissed to get one at full MSRP, and would have returned it.

Also, the rumored Amazon Android tablet(s) will likely be pretty good, looks like a $299 starting price.

I'm not saying this tablet is the best. I too would have returned this thing first day had I bought it at MSRP. But we didn't pay $500 for this thing. Heck I didn't even pay $100. Got mine for $85. :awe: The only tablet worth full MSRP is iPad. It's in class of its own and I agree.

But like IndyColtsFan, I haven't had all the issues you seem to have with yours. Sure there might be a pause or two there when I have lot of things open and running all at once but that's a small trade-off I'm willing to accept to have what's arguably the best multitasking on portable OS. The OS lacks the fine polish of iOS but it's not that bad compared to Android. The loading time launching an app is my biggest complaint but again it's something I can live with given how easily I can switch from one app to another once I have it opened.

I was annoyed with lot of small things when I first started using this tablet and didn't like it as much but after using it for two days, it's grown on me. There are things other OS do much better and things WebOS does better. It's refreshing change of pace for me after using iOS and Android, and I'm glad I was able to try out WebOS courtesy of this fire sale.
 
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Spoooon

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Found this in the TouchPad review at precentral:

All of that combines for snappy performance that is nearly 99 percent of the time on par with the latest from Apple and Samsung. That 1% of the time? The TouchPad inexplicably stops for a few seconds. We were told by HP that the user interface (and the rest of webOS 3.0) still isn’t fully GPU-accelerated, which could account for some of the slowdowns, but our suspicion is that there are still some optimizations to be made. Actually, we hope that’s the case, because these multi-second (occasionally up to 10 seconds) can be especially frustrating. The OS does pay attention to what’s going on during those freezes, so once it finally catches up all your taps and swipes during that time are applied in quick succession.

So, patched and it's still there. I wonder if it'll ever get resolved.
 

Powermoloch

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typing on the touch pad, so for I'm loving it. I'm able to all of my browsing needs. Pre-ware and the patches works
 
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Fox5

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Touchpad is great for $100, a price point at which it competes with the kindle.

At $500, they were crazy to sell it!
I don't see anyone other company adopting it either. The only unique features it brings to the table are the card interface and synergy (which is basically just using free open source components to achieve synergy anyway). Having owned the failed device that was the N900, nokia's tablet/phone efforts had way more promise than the touchpad.

Even Amazon or Samsung would be better off forking android and just making a new user interface, android at least has a solid/well-developed technical footing.

But mainly, I'm just bitter that the touchpad's browser is sluggish and doesn't work on interactive web apps.
 

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The web browser definitely needs a lot of work. Even advanced browser isn't that much better. There also needs to be a way to change the default browser to advanced browser as any links still open with the regular browser.
 

bfdd

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At least with the AnandTech review, the battery life was mediocre even without any modifications. I think webOS just has problems staying asleep altogether.

I charged it and rebooted it, seems better now. It goes to sleep when idle again. We've streamed two hours of flash and still had over 50% left that's pretty good imo.
 
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