HP TouchPad 16GB - $99.

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Creig

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My bad. I guess I just imagined those articles mentioning a lack of polish and some bugs popping up. And I also must have not read the articles stating the iPad 2's hardware was twice as fast as that used in the Touchpad.

I'm not saying it can't do all of the important things. Hell, the iPad 1 that I have can do everything I need from it just fine. But for the price, that sucker is way underpowered.

Well, I own one and I'm basing my opinion on my own personal experience with a Touchpad. And as I said, it doesn't seem slow or buggy at all.

And how can it possibly be underpowered at $99? What sub $100 device are you comparing to?
 

finbarqs

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it does email, web browsing, angry birds. that's all I want it to do

oh yeah, display pictures!

Can I put webos on my transformer?
 

akugami

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Actually you didn't. It turns out the authors were full of bull and trolling for hits.

Didn't see that article but I don't read every single article. Usually when a product comes out.

Well, I own one and I'm basing my opinion on my own personal experience with a Touchpad. And as I said, it doesn't seem slow or buggy at all.

And how can it possibly be underpowered at $99? What sub $100 device are you comparing to?

At $100, it's not. I'm basing it on the original sell price as to why it failed to sell. Reviewers from reputable web sites have said that while they liked the Touchpad, there were issues with slowdowns and bugs that required a reboot in order to solve.

Now, I lead a busy life and I usually only read reviews of products I'm interested in during launch. While I like gadgets, I don't have the time or the inclination to read every tech/gadget review or article. I'd never get work any work done with two kids at home and a busy work schedule where I'm bringing my work home a lot of the time.

And I have no problem with anyone liking it. In fact, I've stated multiple times I would have loved to have gotten in on the deal.
 

ponyo

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WebOS software definitely has some issues but Touchpad hardware is near top of the line. If you follow the mobile industry at all, you would know that just by looking at the specs of the device. This isn't some cheap $99 Chinese knockoff tablet hardware. Everything from the IPS screen down to Wolfson WM8958 soundchip which has hardware EQ and Beats Audio scream quality.
 

WelshBloke

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I've come to the conclusion that I will have to wait for a satisfactory Android port to actually make this thing "productive" for me. The lack of support for current HP-provided apps along with several critical missing apps makes the Touchpad nothing more than a glorified angry birds machine/photo frame/web browser at this point.

For the price, what it does can't be beat... but I have little faith in the webos community to actually continue providing new apps at this point.

As well as ebooks and comics, and it's a decent video player as well. I'm not sure what else I need it to do.
 

Soapy Bones

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anyone have any success with espn3 on the tp? Video plays but seems awfully choppy when watching live
 

ponyo

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anyone have any success with espn3 on the tp? Video plays but seems awfully choppy when watching live

if you pinch to zoom, the video will play smooth but the quality awful. If you press the fullscreen button, video will be razor sharp but extremely choppy. Take your pick.
 

ViRGE

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anyone have any success with espn3 on the tp? Video plays but seems awfully choppy when watching live
Well for one thing, streaming video doesn't get along with overclocking for some reason. So if you overclock, everything will be choppy.

But even without overclocking there's no way to get a good picture. It looks like the TP isn't completely offloading decoding to the GPU, so anything above the lowest quality/bitrate is more than it can handle. There's no way to get a high quality video playing back at a full framerate through Flash right now.
 

cheezy321

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Well, I own one and I'm basing my opinion on my own personal experience with a Touchpad. And as I said, it doesn't seem slow or buggy at all.

And how can it possibly be underpowered at $99? What sub $100 device are you comparing to?

After a couple weeks, I gotta agree with others here. The touchpad is a pile of shit.

1. Pandora doesn't work:
I listen to pandora quite a bit. At least once a day on my cell phone. I never have any problems with it whatsoever. Plays wonderfully and there is never an issue. On the touchpad it only works < 50% of the time. You press play and it doesn't even turn on. In one situation I pressed play and it didnt play for 8 hours later! It randomly turned on and started playing in the morning! Its a total pile of crap and completely unreliable.

2. Battery life blows. Sure, the thing is worth it for $150 (I got the 32 GB version). However, the battery life sucks ass compared to the ipad. When I had an iPad 1, I could pull it out, play with it for an hour, then tuck it away. I could come back 2 - 3 days later and it would hardly have lost any battery life. With the touchpad, you have to recharge it at least 1x / week. No matter how much you use it, it has to be charged at least once a week. I remember with my iPad I could go a month without charging it and it was being used wayyy more than I ever used the touchpad.

3. Bugs bugs bugs. This thing has so many bugs. There have been times where I come home and the touchpad is just on. Screen is on for absolutely no reason. And it JUST STAYS ON! The thing doesn't turn off. Just kills the battery and the thing dies WITHOUT ME EVEN USING IT. This has happened multiple times and makes no sense at all. The web browser takes forever to switch between tabs. Sometimes its a 3 second lag for this to happen. Unacceptable.

4. Video is choppy: I expected to use this touchpad to mainly consume media and stream video online. It doesn't do a good job at all. Jaggy and not smooth at all.

Overall it has been pretty disappointing but it was worth it at $150. I would never recommend this product at $400
 
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Sorry, you must have a bad unit as your experiences do not reflect mine at all.

After a couple weeks, I gotta agree with others here. The touchpad is a pile of shit.

1. Pandora doesn't work:
I listen to pandora quite a bit. At least once a day on my cell phone. I never have any problems with it whatsoever. Plays wonderfully and there is never an issue. On the touchpad it only works < 50&#37; of the time. You press play and it doesn't even turn on. In one situation I pressed play and it didnt play for 8 hours later! It randomly turned on and started playing in the morning! Its a total pile of crap and completely unreliable.

I use the touchpad and Pandora in my garage all day every weekend while I work on my motorcycles. It's great to have a PDF manual available at any time too. 8-10 hours stretches at a time without a single issue. None of the weird stuff you state has EVER occurred. After-day use in the garage, I tend to still have over 65% battery life left too.

2. Battery life blows. Sure, the thing is worth it for $150 (I got the 32 GB version). However, the battery life sucks ass compared to the ipad. When I had an iPad 1, I could pull it out, play with it for an hour, then tuck it away. I could come back 2 - 3 days later and it would hardly have lost any battery life. With the touchpad, you have to recharge it at least 1x / week. No matter how much you use it, it has to be charged at least once a week. I remember with my iPad I could go a month without charging it and it was being used wayyy more than I ever used the touchpad.

I pretty much only use my Touchpad on the weekends, and after having sit around all week (not on the charge), the battery still has plenty of charge.

3. Bugs bugs bugs. This thing has so many bugs. There have been times where I come home and the touchpad is just on. Screen is on for absolutely no reason. And it JUST STAYS ON! The thing doesn't turn off. Just kills the battery and the thing dies WITHOUT ME EVEN USING IT. This has happened multiple times and makes no sense at all. The web browser takes forever to switch between tabs. Sometimes its a 3 second lag for this to happen. Unacceptable.

NEVER happens on mine.

4. Video is choppy: I expected to use this touchpad to mainly consume media and stream video online. It doesn't do a good job at all. Jaggy and not smooth at all.

The only video I watch on mine is flash-based online Anime on occasion, but it works just fine for that without any issues you have.

While I don't doubt you truly are experiencing these problems, not everyone else is. The fact that many others do not have the same issues seems to indicate that perhaps your particular unit has issues outside the norm.

I do have the typical mods (like OC'd 1.5Ghz kernel, etc) installed.
 
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Gunslinger08

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I haven't had any problems with it so far, other than the browser (especially on heavy JS and Flash sites) being slow. I like webOS. I've never used Android for more than a minute or two at a time, but I'll probably try it out if they get a stable build for it. I just want better app support really. A good/fast sports app, Netflix, better Facebook app, more games, more settings/personalization, etc.
 

ViRGE

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2. Battery life blows. Sure, the thing is worth it for $150 (I got the 32 GB version). However, the battery life sucks ass compared to the ipad. When I had an iPad 1, I could pull it out, play with it for an hour, then tuck it away. I could come back 2 - 3 days later and it would hardly have lost any battery life. With the touchpad, you have to recharge it at least 1x / week. No matter how much you use it, it has to be charged at least once a week. I remember with my iPad I could go a month without charging it and it was being used wayyy more than I ever used the touchpad.
The big culprit is that by default webOS doesn't turn off Wi-Fi when sleeping, unlike iOS devices. So it's burning a fair bit of power when it's doing nothing. You can change its settings to shut off Wi-Fi, but then you get to experience the joys of the TouchPad's buggy Wi-Fi implementation.
 

bfdd

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I am not having video or battery life issues, almost no bugs. The only issue I have is youtube seized to work, I'm guessing it's because I edited my flash so I could watch Hulu. Going to change that and should fix it. I plug my TP into the charger only two to three times a week.
 

Oyeve

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I haven't had any problems with it so far, other than the browser (especially on heavy JS and Flash sites) being slow. I like webOS. I've never used Android for more than a minute or two at a time, but I'll probably try it out if they get a stable build for it. I just want better app support really. A good/fast sports app, Netflix, better Facebook app, more games, more settings/personalization, etc.

You think HP will continue to have app support?
 

Aikouka

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The big culprit is that by default webOS doesn't turn off Wi-Fi when sleeping, unlike iOS devices. So it's burning a fair bit of power when it's doing nothing. You can change its settings to shut off Wi-Fi, but then you get to experience the joys of the TouchPad's buggy Wi-Fi implementation.

Yeah, once I changed this, battery life was significantly better. I was seeing nearly 10% loss each day before I turned it off!
 

dj2004

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The big culprit is that by default webOS doesn't turn off Wi-Fi when sleeping, unlike iOS devices. So it's burning a fair bit of power when it's doing nothing. You can change its settings to shut off Wi-Fi, but then you get to experience the joys of the TouchPad's buggy Wi-Fi implementation.

What is this buggy wifi implementation? I've been using the wifi off when sleeping setting for almost three weeks now and haven't had any wifi problems. It connects within 5-10 seconds of the TP being woken. I know some people have connection problems due to their router, is this what you are posting of?
 

ViRGE

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Red Storm

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What is this buggy wifi implementation? I've been using the wifi off when sleeping setting for almost three weeks now and haven't had any wifi problems. It connects within 5-10 seconds of the TP being woken. I know some people have connection problems due to their router, is this what you are posting of?

I also thought maybe the router was the problem, but it's the Touchpad. It seemingly randomly does not work with certain routers. And I don't mean entirely either, on my home internet the Messaging app would not work, no matter what settings were used. At work, Messaging worked instantly. There were multiple people who were also experiencing this problem and someone posted a "solution" which was to go buy another router, and a Touchpad forum moderator deemed this a "fix" for the problem and closed the thread.

It's a cool device, but it's also bug ridden. I sold mine while they're still worth something and I have no regrets, it was too frustrating to deal with.
 

Makaveli

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I was having issues with my TP also and wireless when trying to stream video from youtube it would always pause halfway thru the download. I thought it might have been that one video but it does it for all.

The fix was changing my Router encryption from tkip and aes to AES only and now the connection is solid and no issues.

This also fixed the connection issues I was getting in the HP app store.
 
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