HTC One M9 hype thread

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oleguy

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So, I didn't read all the thread, mainly starting at the point just before the launch event. Perhaps I am repeating what others might have said, but here's my two-cents.

Yes, the M9 wasn't a gee-whiz uber-sexy phone that made all the other device makers hang their heads in shame and/or fire their design departments. However, I think we've reached the same point that CPUs, GPUs, and other enthusiast hardware has: Manufactures realize that only the smallest of slivers of their customer bases upgrade the next time the newest thing comes out.

Intel was the first (that I recall) to just outright say that each generation wasn't a wholesale improvement over the last; it was either a process shrink or a new architecture on the same process as the last core. That meant for most, the upgrade cycle spanned two or even three generations. The recently released 9XX series from NVIDIA was nice, but it wasn't really enough to pry people off of their 7XX and Titans while being a great upgrade for those still on a 5XX or 6XX (or in my case, the ATI 4850... ).

And in the phone world, it might be time to realize that the M9 (or S6) was not meant to be a direct upgrade to last year's model. Two-year upgrade cycles are the rule, not the exception. As an M7 owner, I can say with honesty that the M9 looks great, especially as I own a two-year old phone that I've dropped a dozen too many times, in addition to getting a bit long in the tooth. People (usually) can't afford to drop $600+ on a new phone each year, so this is probably the new normal for phones like it is in the computer space.

So yes, it was disappointing that the M9 wasn't enough to make me fly out to HTC's factory and hold the place hostage for my new phone. But from a business perspective, this makes sense. It's the sad reality of a resource-constrained world.
 

oleguy

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I can't believe people place so much weight on a cellphone's camera. I guess I'm old school, but I'll stick to dedicated camera equipment for any type of serious pics. Cell phone cameras are just that - they are portable (you'll likely always have it on you), and they are only good enough for sharing pics/videos with friends/family.

This, a thousand times. I was once a person who believed that digital cameras were on the way out if they were anything less than prosumer on up. But I have to say, I got my wife a Panasonic Lumix ZS30 for Christmas in 2013, and for $300, it took pictures that made cell phones look like Polaroids compared to SLRs back in the day (please tell me someone remembers those days... please?!)

And that model in 2013 already had WiFi to upload pictures to various places as well as a neat NFC function that allowed you to transfer to a phone. Software on the phone sucks, but at least they tried.

So yes, the cell phone camera is great when I'm on the boat taking pictures of my catch, out at the bar with friends, or other impromptu moments where I want to capture the moment for posterity. But when I want to actually make a background for my desktop, frame a picture, or do anything remotely artistic... I'm swiping my wife's camera... while drooling over the prosumer DSLRs (sadly, my SLR is a 35mm, and it's getting harder and harder to get those developed in any professional way, short of going back to B&W and heading into the darkroom).
 

Crono

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I'm glad HTC and Samsung have made it easy to not waste my money on a phone this generation. I'm an HTC fan, but I don't find a compelling reason to switch back when the camera in my current phone is either as good or (more likely) better.

The Note 4 would have been tempting for me had it not been expensive off-contract when it launched, especially since Samsung (commendably) has been minimizing TouchWiz lately.

If Project Ara comes to fruition in the United states this year, that likely will be my next main phone, though I want an Aquaris to play around with. If an actual Lumia 1020 successor comes out this year, that's probably going to be the best cameraphone and I may "have to" get it.
 
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thilanliyan

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I'm extremely disappointed in the look of the m9. Looks exactly like my m7. Not sure why they didn't move the design on more and wow us. How else are they going to win over customers from samsung/apple?
 

Qbah

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I have a HTC One M8. My next phone needs to have stereo front-facing speakers, a 1080p display, something better than a S801 and a (preferably much!) better battery. And max 5" screen (preferably smaller).

Hence HTC is not getting my money this round since they released a M8.2 and not a M9 in my eyes... Let's see what Sony comes up with on the Z4 Compact
 

RussianSensation

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Looks like a flop to me. Camera is a joke again with visible noise in daylight and basically is unusable in low light, 9.6 mm thick, inferior and smaller screen to the S6 in a taller body, no finger print ID, and none of the cool features of the S6. Boom speakers are nice but I have Ultimate Ears Triple.Fi 10 and Sennheiser IE800 so could care less about picking it just for the speakers alone.

It's like the didn't even try. The design is now 3 years old and is getting boring.

which phone has the best camera for android?

Samsung S6/S6 edge, then Note 4.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Gala...ts-a-Canon-DSLR-and-the-iPhone-6-Plus_id66093
 
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sze5003

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I don't see this doing well for HTC unless people never owned the m7 or m8..then again with the same design I wonder how many people will try to scam others online selling used m8's as the new model.
Then again Apple kept the same design and people keep buying them but that's due to the Apple os and ecosystem they may already be familiar with.
 
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HTC just pulled a Samsung by going 3 generations with the same design. Didn't work out well for Samsung... we'll see how it works for HTC.
 

heymrdj

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I'd pick the M9 because at least there's a Windows option. Can't stand another cruddy Android experience.
 

vshah

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I have a HTC One M8. My next phone needs to have stereo front-facing speakers, a 1080p display, something better than a S801 and a (preferably much!) better battery. And max 5" screen (preferably smaller).

Hence HTC is not getting my money this round since they released a M8.2 and not a M9 in my eyes... Let's see what Sony comes up with on the Z4 Compact


am I missing something? your first paragraph basically defines the M9 exactly, and then the 2nd states you're skipping HTC this round.
 

Qbah

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am I missing something? your first paragraph basically defines the M9 exactly, and then the 2nd states you're skipping HTC this round.
The size will hardly change. Battery most likely will be the same. Rest is near identical. M8>M9 is not really an upgrade in my eyes.
 

WelshBloke

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HTC just pulled a Samsung by going 3 generations with the same design. Didn't work out well for Samsung... we'll see how it works for HTC.
Extraneous black bar aside, what's wrong with the design?
If you're a fan of the whole aluminium unibody design it seems pretty solid. No point in changing it just for the hell of it. Far better that they keep up the evolutionary change and get it perfect.
 

Red Storm

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Extraneous black bar aside, what's wrong with the design?
If you're a fan of the whole aluminium unibody design it seems pretty solid. No point in changing it just for the hell of it. Far better that they keep up the evolutionary change and get it perfect.

That black bar was acceptable on the M7 because it was actually put to use as the nav bar, but it's now two generations later and it's still there. HTC doesn't seem interested in perfecting their design.
 

Imported

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That black bar was acceptable on the M7 because it was actually put to use as the nav bar, but it's now two generations later and it's still there. HTC doesn't seem interested in perfecting their design.

Exactly. Upgrading from the M7, I was kind of getting excited to upgrade to the M9.. but now that its just a M8 rehash which doesn't even look as good as the M7.. I don't know. Atleast I'll have options to pick from though!
 
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Extraneous black bar aside, what's wrong with the design?
If you're a fan of the whole aluminium unibody design it seems pretty solid. No point in changing it just for the hell of it. Far better that they keep up the evolutionary change and get it perfect.

It's kind of like upgrading cars. Even if you're a Camry loyalist, you're less likely to upgrade from a 2013 to a 2015 model if it's still the same generation. You'll likely wait until the next generation (5 year cadence, usually) to upgrade to the next model when you're ready to switch. The outside matters to a lot of people. It's simply a stagnation/visual issue since the upgrade cycle is about 2 years and people like to have some visual confirmation that's different/new.

If you go from M7 to M9 and a two year cycle, that's 4 years of owning very similar looking devices. Call it design fatigue.
 

WelshBloke

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It's kind of like upgrading cars. Even if you're a Camry loyalist, you're less likely to upgrade from a 2013 to a 2015 model if it's still the same generation. You'll likely wait until the next generation (5 year cadence, usually) to upgrade to the next model when you're ready to switch. The outside matters to a lot of people. It's simply a stagnation/visual issue since the upgrade cycle is about 2 years and people like to have some visual confirmation that's different/new.

If you go from M7 to M9 and a two year cycle, that's 4 years of owning very similar looking devices. Call it design fatigue.
So just change for the sake of it then?
 

RussianSensation

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Extraneous black bar aside, what's wrong with the design?
If you're a fan of the whole aluminium unibody design it seems pretty solid.

I would call ~40% thicker chassis (9.6mm) against your primary competitors (Samsung S6 = 6.8mm, iPhone 6 = 6.9mm) a pretty big failure. Can you imagine if S6 or iPhone 6 were 9.6mm phones? The battery would be 4000-4500 mAh. Despite a 41% thicker chassis vs. the S6, the M9 only has an 11% larger battery. It also has a smaller screen despite a taller chassis. That's a horrendous engineering/design failure imo. If HTC were to design a nearly 1 cm thick chassis, might as well go all out with NV's Tegra X1.
 

Anubis

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eh, the G3 is 8.9mm thick and its fine. the extra .5mm isn't a big deal IMO

also the Iphone is too damn thin IMO and I foresee myself thinking the same about the S6
 
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