HTC One vs Samsung Galaxy S4 vs Nexus 4

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s44

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Yeap, nothing like reading the blackest text on a strange blue'ish background. AMOLED is t3h sux.
The One and the N4 are significantly bluer than the S4. Y'all don't even read reviews before repeating the old FUD, do you?
 

poofyhairguy

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You realize the One is locked, right?

Yeah but the One lock is openable if you go through HTCs hoops even on day one.

If this is like how Verizon's locked Samsung devices are, then the only way around it is a leaked exploit that could take months to come or might never come.
 
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you2

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HTC said it was an 'accident' that the one could be unlocked with HTCdev and they would be removing the option.

The One's bootloader is unlockable through HTCdev. Possible exception of the AT&T model.

Pretty much all phones come with locked bootloaders (yes, even the Nexus line). What matters is that the manufacturer allows you to easily unlock it.
 

lopri

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I don't know. I got to know about the One only because of critics' hype. Did some research on my own and nothing really stood out, to be frank. Heck even my Nexus 4 looks more unibody than the HTC One.

Compared to the S4, there isn't a comparison.

1. S4 is all around faster. (Faster CPU, faster GPU, faster memory, faster storage)
2. S4 is thinner and lighter.
3. Yet the S4's got the bigger screen.
4. S4 has Gorilla Glass 3, the One has Gorilla Glass 2.
5. S4's battery lasts longer.
6. S4's battery charges faster.
7. S4's camera is all around better.
8. S4 comes with the latest Android.
9. S4 comes with more sensors.
10. S4 does picture-in-picture.
11. S4 comes with OCR.

I can go on and on but there is no doubt that the S4 is the most advanced (technology-wise) phone to date.

All I read from the critics about the HTC One is "how well it's made," "how good it feels." I am sure they're right, but when it comes to quantifiable merits, the One doesn't stand a chance against the S4.
 
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dawheat

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I got a chance to play with a One again at a different AT&T store, and for some reason the display was much better.

In one word - wow. Bright, sharp, beautiful - the first screen that in every measure IMO was superior to the iPhone 5 screen. It's not a huge leap, but you can notice the sharpness difference compared to 720p screens. A worthwile upgrade for anyone.

Secondly, the UI did seem a bit faster and more responsive than even my debloated Note 2. It was subtle and only noticable when doing the exact same task side by side, but windows and such seem to jump up a bit faster. Nothing to upgrade by itself, but again a nice improvment. Makes me disagree with folks who say 2012 hardware is fast enough and outside of games you won't notice any difference. It's a much smaller difference than from 2011 to 2012 hardware, but you can notice it.

Overall, I agree with the assesement that this is the phone that could make some die-hard iOS converts finally switch. Use a different launcher to remove Blinkfeed, setup the phone in an iOS type of layout, and I think even my wife might be able to switch.

However, it didn't make me want to leave my Note 2. For me, there is not substitute for real-estate and the Note 2 still has leaps more space. If you can deal with the footprint (which I can) - you can't go back. Lastly, I'm still not overwhelmed with the packaging of the One - frankly for a 6% larger screen in the same footprint while being thinner and lighter, the S4 has it's strengths as well.
 

Connoisseur

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I don't know. I got to know about the One only because of critics' hype. Did some research on my own and nothing really stood out, to be frank. Heck even my Nexus 4 looks more unibody than the HTC One.

Compared to the S4, there isn't a comparison.

1. S4 is all around faster. (Faster CPU, faster GPU, faster memory, faster storage)
2. S4 is thinner and lighter.
3. Yet the S4's got the bigger screen.
4. S4 has Gorilla Glass 3, the One has Gorilla Glass 2.
5. S4's battery lasts longer.
6. S4's battery charges faster.
7. S4's camera is all around better.
8. S4 comes with the latest Android.
9. S4 comes with more sensors.
10. S4 does picture-in-picture.
11. S4 comes with OCR.

I can go on and on but there is no doubt that the S4 is the most advanced (technology-wise) phone to date.

All I read from the critics about the HTC One is "how well it's made," "how good it feels." I am sure they're right, but when it comes to quantifiable merits, the One doesn't stand a chance against the S4.

Just a couple of points of contention:
1) It's certainly faster, but would it be noticeably faster? Also, as I understand from reading these threads, most of the extra "features" actually slow down the navigation on the phone and need to be disabled.
11) Is there's plenty of software in the play store that can do the same? Samsung just bundled it with the phone.

You might want to add that samsung's screen can also be used with gloves. Might be a big perk for cold weather folks.

Regardless, i'm going to check the S4 when it comes out in the store but I'm leaning towards the One. I've always wanted an android phone with the build quality of an Iphone. I'm just a sucker for pretty things. Unless the S4 really blows me away, the advantage is for the One. This is coming from a guy who owned the S3.
 

AMDZen

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HTC said it was an 'accident' that the one could be unlocked with HTCdev and they would be removing the option.

BS. The HTC ONE is unlockable if you go buy one today. There is nothing on the android forums yet that supports this. Unless you can see the future
 

AMDZen

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this is slightly incorrect. i believe it's the at&t model that won't will at some point not be unlockable at at&t's request. international/tmo/sprint should still be fine.

That's speculation still at this point. But I would agree if you want to make sure its unlockable to go buy one now
 

poofyhairguy

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this is slightly incorrect. i believe it's the at&t model that won't will at some point not be unlockable at at&t's request. international/tmo/sprint should still be fine.

Jeez this is freaking me out today.

The last thing I want is to get any flagship phone and get stuck with the stock OS for too long. I am sick of Touchwiz and the One's 4.1 is a step back to what I am used to on my ancient SGS2. I want fresh 4.2 CM ASAP.

The SGS4 seemed like an obvious choice at first to be the best subsidized 2013 AT&T phone you can buy for CM. But many developers are flocking to the One, and it might be months until the SGS4 bootloader is unlocked. But apparently I need to make a decision soon (before the AT&T One gets re-locked) so no waiting a month to see what happens with the S4.

Man this is stressing me out. In 24 hours we went from "So many awesome options!" to trying to navigate the underground railroad through AT&T's totalitarian 2013 phone policies.
 
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Imported

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Its all speculation that the AT&T One will get re-locked. I'm only aware of one report from Engadget saying it would.. and that was almost two weeks ago.
 

AMDZen

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Jeez this is freaking me out today.

The last thing I want is to get any flagship phone and get stuck with the stock OS for too long. I am sick of Touchwiz and the One's 4.1 is a step back to what I am used to on my ancient SGS2. I want fresh 4.2 CM ASAP.

The SGS4 seemed like an obvious choice at first to be the best subsidized 2013 AT&T phone you can buy for CM. But many developers are flocking to the One, and it might be months until the SGS4 bootloader is unlocked. But apparently I need to make a decision soon (before the AT&T One gets re-locked) so no waiting a month to see what happens with the S4.

Man this is stressing me out. In 24 hours we went from "So many awesome options!" to trying to navigate the underground railroad through AT&T's totalitarian 2013 phone policies.

CM will have 4.2.2 out for HTC ONE in no time. I think the choice is pretty clear for you. One thing I can say, CM 4.2.2 will be out on HTC ONE before it is for SGS4.
 

poofyhairguy

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Looking at Samsung Verizon devices as an examples:

SGS3 (1 month):
Released - July 12,2012
Unlocked - August 16, 2012 (leak)

Note 2 (two weeks):
Released - Nov 28, 2012
Unlocked - Dec. 11, 2012 the first time and Jan 26, 2013 second time

Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 (two months):
Released - August 17, 2012
Unlocked - October 20, 2012 (leak)

So its all over the map. Seems like Samsung's bootloader is either easily defeated, or it requires some sort of leak of some prototype's bootloader to unlock the devices.


I guess I will wait a few weeks and see if the SGS4 bootloader is the kind that falls quickly or will need a leak. If it is the latter then hello HTC One.
 

krumme

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http://pocketnow.com/2013/04/25/samsung-galaxy-s-4-or-htc-one
All the editors at pocket now chose the One over s4.
Seems like everyone is tired of the old plastic design and wants something new and refreshing.

Tired?
The pattern is not different from last years review.
Lots of reviewers complaining about plactic.
The consumers choosing functionality over aestetics.
How ironic.

Go buy your One. Use it for a year. Feel the battery getting old and tired in an already slightly weak battery performance. Notice the lacking updates. The scrapes and dents. Then back to Samsung. The same each year.

There is only one reason for the One, and thats if you are really a sucker for alu unibody or want the front speakers.

HTC is not going to cut it. LG probably either. Sony is going to take their place and be nr. 3 behind Apple and SS. HTC is not important for the future. To many phones, to often new phones, to many issues.
 
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poofyhairguy

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CM will have 4.2.2 out for HTC ONE in no time. I think the choice is pretty clear for you. One thing I can say, CM 4.2.2 will be out on HTC ONE before it is for SGS4.

The most I think about it, the more I realize I could get by on 32GB of storage if that meant I get CM.
 

krumme

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HTC ONE. This is a tech forum with tech people and I don't see how some of the advantages play out in the coming months for the other two phones. IMO of course.

GS4 advantages over the ONE: Faster processor? Well its the same processor clocked to 1.9 vs. 1.7 GHz. I've read reviews already that say the interface on the HTC ONE is more fluid. Is this because of Sense vs. TouchWiz? Unclear but I do know that the HTC ONE can be unlocked right out of the gate and all you need to do is clock your processor to 1.9 if that extra 200 MHz really matters to you. May not be something everyone does but again, this is a tech forum and a lot of us are going to mess around with that.

SD Card slot: Understandable to a certain degree but this is not an issue for me. I already have 20 GB of storage through PogoPlug free for life (check CNET for that promotion) and you also get 20 GB through DropBox in a promotion with HTC. Add on the 5 GB you get from Google Drive and the 5 GB I already had through DropBox and I have 50 more GB on top of the 64 GB of my HTC ONE. I prefer to have a lot of things like Pictures and videos on the cloud any way. This is a non issue for me in this day and age.

Removable Battery: Understandable but I imagine if I really want to swap out the battery because it goes bad before I upgrade again in 2 years that I can. I upgraded the iPhone 4 battery in 10 minutes and it was a cake walk even after being voted one of the more difficult devices to do it with. Besides, I again find it unlikely that I'll need to replace the battery before I replace the phone all together. There are definitely some real world issues regarding this but not for me.

Nexus advantages over ONE: Vanilla Android with updates as Google releases them. This is pretty good if you are the average person who prefers stock android, but what average non-techy person is going to care about vanilla android? Again, this is a tech forum and I myself will be unlocking my bootloader pronto and installing custom ROMs as soon as they are mostly prefected for the ONE. We will have 4.2.2 on ONE via the custom ROM community if not directly from HTC, so this is a non issue for me. Part of my appeal to Android in the first place is playing around with custom ROMs and Launchers so I will be doing a lot of it.

Bottom Line: I think the advantages on the ONE far out weigh the advantages of the other two because there are ways around most of them. Processor clock, cloud storage space, mobile battery if needed, etc.

On the other hand, there is NOTHING you can do about a cheap looking piece of plastic trash. You can't make it metal. You can make the metal plastic with a case. That anand review and others have already said it best. You also can't do much with the speakers if you use speaker phone regularly as I do. Those two things set the ONE apart much further then the other things that supposedly set those other two apart.

"I always start with industrial design and aesthetics, probably because it’s the most obvious superficial thing that hits you when picking up almost anything for the first time. With a smartphone that’s even more important, since there’s so much that revolves around the in-hand feel. I pick up my phone too many times a day to count for better or worse, thus the material quality and in-hand feel really do make a big difference."

"The HTC One’s fit and finish are phenomenal. ... In my books, fit and finish goes, in descending order of quality, metal, glass, and finally plastic. Or instead of plastic, polymer, or polycarbonate, or whatever overly-specific word we use to avoid saying plastic.

"It’s the kind of manufacturing story that previously only the likes of Apple could lay claim to, and the HTC One is really the first Android device which reaches the level of construction quality previously owned almost entirely by the iPhone"

That last bit sums it up best for me. I've been an iPhone user namely because of this. And also because the android community makes ridiculous claims that the iPhone isn't open and there is so much you can't do on the iPhone. True for a stock iPhone as some of these other things are true about stock Android devices. But again, this is a tech forum. I can't be the minority here who is hacking everything I own. I actually have found already something I can do on the iPhone that I've challenged the android community on this forum and around the internet to explain how I would do this on an android device with no answer given. As best as I can tell, it can't be done on Android and is a regular problem solved by people in the iOS jailbreak community.

But I digress.

HTC ONe is the ONe for me and I'm quite happy with the decision.

Well this is just typical of the comparison from many reviewers. Tons of words, and the absolutely most important difference beeing the S4 is smaller, lighter and have a bigger screen - at the same time - is not mentioned. Not to mention the battery is bigger.
Wtf is happening. The most important feature of a smartphone - the screen - is overlooked.
 

ChronoReverse

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I've only heard about Engadget saying the Htc One and the Galaxy S4 will be locked on ATT. The ATT One X was certainly locked out but the GS3 never was. I don't see why Samsung would regress in this area when they have more clout than ever?
 

vshah

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fwiw there's already a pre-alpha cm 10.1 on the One (booting/touchscreen working but not much else)
 

poofyhairguy

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I've only heard about Engadget saying the Htc One and the Galaxy S4 will be locked on ATT. The ATT One X was certainly locked out but the GS3 never was. I don't see why Samsung would regress in this area when they have more clout than ever?

I don't know either. All I know is that after the trouble I have had unlocking my tablet being unlockable is the my number 1 requirement.

Maybe AT&T saw that Samsung let Verizon push them around and they got jealous.
 
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