HTC One vs Samsung Galaxy S4 vs Nexus 4

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AMDZen

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Difference between Gorilla glass 3 and 2

"The difference in brittleness (determined by Young's Modulus) between Gorilla Glass 2 and 3 is 71.5 and 69.3 GPa respectively. This is a 3% difference, and barely any difference."

https://plus.google.com/u/0/116988351660148062102/posts/R7EWuTeEbqr

Bottom line: There are very little differences between Gorilla Glass 2 and 3. It should not be a deciding factor when you are deciding which phone to buy.
 
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AMDZen

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Right. What phone were you using before now then and why weren't you happy with it suddenly?

I didn't see this response until now.

iPhone 4 and it had just grown to be too slow for me. Newer devices are obviously lightyears ahead of where the 4 was at. Thus the HTC ONE.

Namely it was the 512 MB of memory on the iPhone 4. It just isn't enough for a lot of more modern apps and games. CPU and GPU wise it is still pretty good.

The only thing that kept me from going to Android before was build quality as well as apps and a few things that you can't do on Android. But I'll have an iPad around for the latter issues and Android App support has come a long way and is now on par with iOS for the most part. And obviously the HTC ONE build quality was one of the most appealing selling points for me.
 

Crono

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I think you can't go wrong with either of them really. I'm not sure where the strong feelings are coming from TBH. Both phones are great and it's just down to personal preference which one is better for you.

I like both. I like the buttons and screen of the S4 but I really like the forward firing stereo speakers of the One.

Choice is good, I'm not sure why people are going so Jihadi about it all.

It's easy to see why looking at the companies or the products.
The Taiwanese company HTC is fighting to stay in the game with it's flagship against the already established top player, South Korean company Samsung.

Even though both have high end specs, HTC is focusing a little more on external design, sound and speaker quality, and low light camera performance; Samsung is focusing a little more on maximizing internal specs, adding an assortment of software features, and maximum megapixels.

The perceived battle before was Android versus Apple, but with two major premium, 1080p quad core phones releasing so close to each other, it has become a virtual David versus Goliath. It's not that hard to see the interest and people taking sides, and it's not unusual for the tech world (Microsoft vs Apple, Intel vs AMD, Nvidia vs ATI (AMD), etc.)

My view is just to know exactly what each model - and Sony and LG are still players, as well - offers, what exactly you the buyer need/want the most, and choose it. Nothing wrong with being informed, but there's no real reason for people to be so defensive. Especially if you are a more general Android fan, since it looks like it's clearly a win for Android having this new generation of phones. I wasn't even looking to purchase an Android phone a month ago, I was ready to go Nokia (and actually did buy a refurb Lumia 920, until I realized it was defective and returned it) and Windows Phone again.

I chose the One because it suits me better, but if someone else likes the S4, more power to them. Pragmatism is the only logical option when it comes to purchasing tech goods or services. Just buy use whatever works best for you. In a few months time we could be arguing about Linux versus Firefox phones, anyway.
 
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Difference between Gorilla glass 3 and 2

"The difference in brittleness (determined by Young's Modulus) between Gorilla Glass 2 and 3 is 71.5 and 69.3 GPa respectively. This is a 3% difference, and barely any difference."

https://plus.google.com/u/0/116988351660148062102/posts/R7EWuTeEbqr

Bottom line: There are very little differences between Gorilla Glass 2 and 3. It should not be a deciding factor when you are deciding which phone to buy.

i've had both the gnex and n4 both without screen protectors. no scratches.
there's my anecdote.
 

Puddle Jumper

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Difference between Gorilla glass 3 and 2

"The difference in brittleness (determined by Young's Modulus) between Gorilla Glass 2 and 3 is 71.5 and 69.3 GPa respectively. This is a 3% difference, and barely any difference."

https://plus.google.com/u/0/116988351660148062102/posts/R7EWuTeEbqr

Bottom line: There are very little differences between Gorilla Glass 2 and 3. It should not be a deciding factor when you are deciding which phone to buy.

Well some guy on Google+ saying it isn't better sure settles that argument.

For me the SGS4 is the painfully obvious winner. The stupid button arrangement on the One would end up with me throwing it in frustration which would likely destroy it given how fragile it is. Not to mention Sense 5 is an abomination, they completely ruined the multitasking interface. The phone is also far to large for a 4.7" device.

HTC has already abandoned the One X when it comes to future versions of android while Samsung has already stated the SGS3 will get KLP. Heck even the S4 is shipping with 4.2.2 while the One is stuck on the same version of Android as the two year old SGS2.
 

ChronoReverse

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Besides, scratch resistance isn't measured with what he was talking about since he cited neither Mohs nor Vickers.
 
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MD90

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HTC has already abandoned the One X when it comes to future versions of android while Samsung has already stated the SGS3 will get KLP. Heck even the S4 is shipping with 4.2.2 while the One is stuck on the same version of Android as the two year old SGS2.

Confirmed sources for HTC abandoning the One X? These were rumors the last time I heard them.
 

AMDZen

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They still are rumors. There are reports of Samsung trolls all around the internet. Didn't realize we had so many of them here.
 

MD90

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I wonder is the metal anodized or what. Is it like the iphone?

It has to be anodized. Bare aluminum is soft and very easily scratched. Pretty much any consumer electronics made of aluminum are anodized.
 

McWatt

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Difference between Gorilla glass 3 and 2

"The difference in brittleness (determined by Young's Modulus) between Gorilla Glass 2 and 3 is 71.5 and 69.3 GPa respectively. This is a 3% difference, and barely any difference."

https://plus.google.com/u/0/116988351660148062102/posts/R7EWuTeEbqr

Bottom line: There are very little differences between Gorilla Glass 2 and 3. It should not be a deciding factor when you are deciding which phone to buy.

Young's modulus doesn't describe brittleness.

Resistance to crack propagation is only fully described by fracture toughness in isotropic, homogeneous materials.

There are a lot of ways to change each of those properties without adjusting any of the numbers mentioned by the author in your link. The author seems to have only a basic undergraduate intro to mat sci understanding of mechanical properties.
 

lothar

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Agreed, and not even just on Android. I was cross-shopping all the platforms, and the flagships for nearly all the manufacturers are getting good. Platform and hardware maturity plus competition.

With Linux and Firefox phones and Tizen... well, by year's end it might even be harder to choose, though those have some growing to do.
Won't be hard for me to choose at all.
I am heavily invested in Google's services...Google Search, Google Now, Google Maps, GMail, Google Voice, YouTube...Basically almost everything except that social Google+ nonsense. Many of those things there are no alternatives for and the few that do have alternatives, they suck.

Unless Google plans to spread their services to other platforms(which I doubt they will do anytime soon unless a particular platform gets a large number of users), that means only Android and iOS are my rational choices.
If their snub of Microsoft's Windows Phone platform is of any indication, I don't think that will happen anytime soon.
 

lothar

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I don't know. I got to know about the One only because of critics' hype. Did some research on my own and nothing really stood out, to be frank. Heck even my Nexus 4 looks more unibody than the HTC One.

Compared to the S4, there isn't a comparison.

1. S4 is all around faster. (Faster CPU, faster GPU, faster memory, faster storage)
2. S4 is thinner and lighter.
3. Yet the S4's got the bigger screen.
4. S4 has Gorilla Glass 3, the One has Gorilla Glass 2.
5. S4's battery lasts longer.
6. S4's battery charges faster.
7. S4's camera is all around better.
8. S4 comes with the latest Android.
9. S4 comes with more sensors.
10. S4 does picture-in-picture.
11. S4 comes with OCR.

I can go on and on but there is no doubt that the S4 is the most advanced (technology-wise) phone to date.

All I read from the critics about the HTC One is "how well it's made," "how good it feels." I am sure they're right, but when it comes to quantifiable merits, the One doesn't stand a chance against the S4.
The only benefits HTC has are:
1.) HTC is only better in it's "build quality" and "appearance". But once you shove it in a case, build quality and appearance becomes irrelevant.
2.) Front stereo speakers.

Galaxy S4 crushes HTC One in everything else.
Not sure why anyone would get the HTC One over the Galaxy S4.
 

lothar

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this is slightly incorrect. i believe it's the at&t model that won't will at some point not be unlockable at at&t's request. international/tmo/sprint should still be fine.
HTC pulled the same stunt with the HTC One X on AT&T last year.
All those who got the phones early and had v1.85 software or earlier were able to root and unlock.
For everyone else, it was a mess and they had to wait a long wait.
 

Crono

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The only benefits HTC has are:
1.) HTC is only better in it's "build quality" and "appearance". But once you shove it in a case, build quality and appearance becomes irrelevant.
2.) Front stereo speakers.

Galaxy S4 crushes HTC One in everything else.
Not sure why anyone would get the HTC One over the Galaxy S4.

The case thing is an assumption, unless you are talking about certain individuals. Not everyone uses cases. I don't, as it doesn't guarantee protection of the screen from shattering, unless you want to add a big bulky case. Which negates some of the lower weight (which I see a lot of people mentioning) if you are doing so with the S4.

Also, the S4 beats One in terms of daytime shooting, but not at night. I haven't seen video/microphone comparison, though.

Internal specs of CPU/Memory for S4 might be higher, but in terms of actual usage is it faster? Like noticeably faster in terms of running apps? If not, I wouldn't say it "crushes" the HTC One. I haven't noticed any lag on my One. I think quad core with Jellybean or higher (Project Butter is what made the difference) has made Android pretty smooth on any quad core Android smartphone. Talking about how good the S4 is specs wise - unless you are running some high end apps - is like comparing the i5 to the i7 or 8GB DDR3 to 16GB DDR3 if all you are doing on a desktop is web browsing. Is 1.9 GHz vs 1.7 GHz making a huge difference when you probably aren't truly multitasking video apps and games? I don't know, maybe that's just me.

The S4 does have a bigger screen, but get this: I don't actually want a bigger screen. The One is actually pushing it for me at 4.7", as any higher and it's a stretch (literally) to use it one-handed. I don't want a phablet. I think 4.3 - 4.5" is probably ideal, and 4.7" is acceptable, but I don't want 5" or higher. If you like the S4's size, that's fine, but it's not the ideal screen size for me.

If you want the greatest specs, go ahead, get the S4. Personally, I'm not competing to have the best paper specifications. And one feature you did mention - the speakers - is far more important to me than .2 GHz advantage or eye scrolling or whatever else is unique to the Galaxy S4. If that's what matters to you, that's fine. I understand chasing specs. But if you are "Not sure why anyone would get the HTC One" you must not be reading any of the reviews comparing the two phones, or reading what people are posting in this thread. There are plenty of reasons to get either phone over the other. Or even the Nexus 4, or Xperia ZL.

I paid $200 with contract for my 32GB HTC One (which included a HTC Media Link HD for the preorder). I'm very happy with it. I'm getting a S4 for my brother when it comes to Verizon, but I doubt I'll regret buying the One even after playing with the S4. Even if you think the S4 is better - and it's certainly a very good phone - it should be obvious that the S4 isn't so substantially better to make it a "no brainer" as someone else said. Personal use cases matter.
 
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lothar

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IGN rates HTC One a 9.5

"The HTC is a near-perfect blend of the power and the versatility of Android and the sleek sylish design of iProne."

How often do they rate smart phones? LOL.

Preach on IGN, preach on. Nailed it
Since when did IGN of all places become the gospel to listen to regarding reviews of mobile devices and electronics?

My cousin's 4 year old son rates the Nexus 4 as a 9.8
How often does he rate smart phones? LOL.
 
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