Huckabee is on a roll!

[kage69]

Wow...


I guess history wasn't his best subject, there are more than a few examples of socially recognized gay unions in a number of cultures.

But what really made me laugh was his :

"The Bible was not written to be amended. The Constitution was,"

Typical baptist bullshit IMO. Wish someone would have asked him if he had ever heard of the Council of Nicea (for starters) In my experience, Southern evangelicals are the absolute kings of selective faith. To submit that scripture, and the ethics behind it, are off limits is the height of hypocrisy.

So, my question is - is Huckabee just pushing the pandering envelope with this latest round of fundie crap, or is he being serious in a scary "onward christian soldier" kinda way? As I've said before, it's easy to discount crap like this when it's spewing from the piehole of someone like Bush, but when it comes from someone like Huckabee who has spent a good portion of his life furthering "the gospel," well....

Since I'm offering questions here, when will the christians of America collectively wake up and stop being sucked in by this ignorant and hateful rhetoric?



edit: sorry, fixed quote

 

[senseamp]

And the Republican base thinks he's too liberal.

 

[Mavtek3100]

Well if somehow the GOP nominates the Huckster then yes, they will lose in dramatic fashion.

 

[Mavtek3100]

Originally posted by: senseamp
And the Republican base thinks he's too liberal.

Economically liberal.

 

[maddogchen]

the only history book he's read is the bible.

 

[alchemize]

What a horrible article title. He doesn't link them at all, he's making the "slippery slope" argument.

As to abortion/slavery, that's a comparison, not a linkage.

 

[techs]

Huck is letting the wacky righties in S. Carolina for tomorrows primary know that he is as wacked out as they are.

 

[Mavtek3100]

Huckabee wants to amend the constitution to prevent all abortion, and prevent gay marriage. I'm a pro life guy, but lets get real here. Abortion is a horrible thing, but lets face it in some areas it's a necessary evil. I could careless what gay people do with themselves, I actually think it's a strike against civil liberties to tell gay people they can't do something.

 

[senseamp]

If Huckabee gets Raptured in the middle of his term, does he remain president, or will the VP have to step in?

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: maddogchen
the only history book he's read is the bible.

So, in other-words, he's never read a history book.

 

[MovingTarget]

If Huckabee wins the nomination, I truly believe that the Republican party will have to redefine itself as being an evangelical Christian party instead of the actual "conservative" party. What will set them apart from the other parties the most will not be small government/states rights/lower taxes/fiscal responsibility (ha!), but separation of church and state. If he wins, there will be no doubt that this will be the true mantra of the party. Many real conservatives will somehow be forced to deal with that, either by defecting to another party or by ignoring the truth hoping he will go away. The current party is a hybrid of these two groups, but one seems to be moving into the dominant position as of late.

 

[Red Dawn]

He's a Fund A mental Case, do you expect anything different out of him?:roll:

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: maddogchen
the only history book he's read is the bible.

So, in other-words, he's never read a history book.

Truth be told, other history books of the bible's area are generally less supported by backup evidence than the bible.

Fvckabee is a train wreck, anyway, it's good to see him continue to sink himself.

 

[antyler]

I am not aware of too many details on Huckabee, just what i have heard passing by and such. But i think that if anyone pushes their faith too hard during a political meeting or running, that sort of thing, it can have a negative effect.

But it is refreshing to see and hear someone in office who is outspoken about their faith.

Well refreshing to me, because I think he and I share some of the same beliefs.

 

[MovingTarget]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: maddogchen
the only history book he's read is the bible.

So, in other-words, he's never read a history book.

Not history with a capital "H", no. The bible is actually a historical record, but that isn't its main purpose. It is a valuable tool for those wishing to study the history and cultures of the peoples of that area of the world, but again, in a purely historical context it must be taken with a grain of salt. Its purpose must be taken into account. It cannot be taken literally in that context. It would be analyzed more along the lines of an oral/written tradition that has been passed down than a modern textbook.

 

[kage69]

the only history book he's read is the bible.

In some places in the South, I think that may actually count as a history book. Science curriculum too!

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: kage69

the only history book he's read is the bible.

In some places in the South, I think that may actually count as a history book. Science curriculum too!

Sex ed, and bed-time stories, as well!

"and then god smote them, good night sweet-heart, don't wake up gay! <3"

 

[Jeff7]

The Bible was, however, written to allow for mistranslations, and apparently it could be amended, or at the very least, seriously augmented. New Testament, anyone?


"Well, I don't think that's a radical view, to say we're going to affirm marriage. I think the radical view is to say that we're going to change the definition of marriage so that it can mean two men, two women, a man and three women, a man and a child, a man and animal."
You know, I'm pretty sure that gay marriage is generally just about two men or two women marrying. I've yet to hear any of them complaining that they can't marry their cat.
Slippery slope argument fails here.

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: maddogchen
the only history book he's read is the bible.

So, in other-words, he's never read a history book.

Historical fiction?

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: senseamp
And the Republican base thinks he's too liberal.

He is. Take a look at his fiscal policies and record as Governor. He's a fiscal liberal.

But the most dangerous part of Huckabee is the religious extremist. He's attempted to interject "God" in to just about everything in this damn campaign, and it's disgusting. :thumbsdown:

 

[reeserock]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

If you throw this line out of the constitution you might as throw the whole damn thing away.

 

[m1ldslide1]

Originally posted by: reeserock
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

If you throw this line out of the constitution you might as throw the whole damn thing away.

Pretty much. But what's the harm in throwing out the constitution if god is on your side?

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: alchemize
What a horrible article title. He doesn't link them at all, he's making the "slippery slope" argument.

Bullshit! In the original interview on belief.net, even the interviewer was hesitant about Huckabee's explicit support to amend the Constitution to conform to his biblical interpretations.

Mike Huckabee: 'The Lord Truly Gave Me Wisdom'
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Interviewer: Is it your goal to bring the Constitution into strict conformity with the Bible? Some people would consider that a kind of dangerous undertaking, particularly given the variety of biblical interpretations.

Huckabee: Well, I don?t think that?s a radical view to say we?re going to affirm marriage. I think the radical view is to say that we?re going to change the definition of marriage so that it can mean two men, two women, a man and three women, a man and a child, a man and animal. Again, once we change the definition, the door is open to change it again. I think the radical position is to make a change in what?s been historic.

Huckabee is a dangerous religious whack job who, given the choice of supporting the Constitution or the ooga booga religious mystery oil, has clearly stated on many occasions that he prefers to chug the Kool Aid. :thumbsdown:

Originally posted by: alchemize

As to abortion/slavery, that's a comparison, not a linkage.

And in the context of a political speech, that's a distinction without a difference. :roll:

 

[Lemon law]

Huckabee is a religious right wet dream without any pragmatism. Most candidates who previously got the support of the religious right talked the talk but had the brains to realize
they had to limit it to image and not substance.

And Huckabee is going to scare the hell out of everyone else with his honest beliefs in an agenda thats unsellable with non card carrying members of the religious right. Add ignorance
of foreign policy, to a flat and regressive flat tax, sprinkle in homophobia, add in strongly advocating in a non lip service way pro choice that is unpopular with the bulk of the country, then add in a liberal high tax record as a State Governor, and you get someone who remotely might get the GOP nomination, but will be killed in the general election.

To win the Presidency, the GOP must have the religious right motivated. And this year, all the GOP alternatives fail, the sniff test. So its more probable to have Huck as a VP. But as ole Texas Nance Garner said, being the VP is not worth a pitcher of warm spit. But being the losing side in the election VP is worth even less. But Garner was a FDR VP winner who won nothing, and Truman had the same distinction and managed to inherit the Presidency.

As for me, Dick Cheney gives me religion. Praying that GWB does not die. I am sure a Vice President Huckabee could do the same thing. But I will first pray for a democrat to avoid the
hypocrisies implicit in praying for the health of a GOP idiot.

 

[clamum]

Wow. What a fool. I don't know how people can support this lunatic. Just what we need, some religious freak heading the country.

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: senseamp
And the Republican base thinks he's too liberal.

He is. Take a look at his fiscal policies and record as Governor. He's a fiscal liberal.

But the most dangerous part of Huckabee is the religious extremist. He's attempted to interject "God" in to just about everything in this damn campaign, and it's disgusting. :thumbsdown:

Do you also find it disgusting that this country was founded on God and many of the same beliefs that he has? I find it refreshing that we have a politician who isn't going to change his faith for political gain. His faith is where is ethics and morals are based, so for him to not let people know of his faith would be a lie, would it not? If I want to know what Huckabee's views are, I can just open a Bible and find out, any of those other guys (save McCain), change their political views depending on which way the wind blew that day.

Most of his tax increases need to be researched more, I think you'll find out that there were some improvements he was required to make, and some requirements his citizens required him to make. Playing 30 second sound bites do not give you a good idea of what was done and why.