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Svnla

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It's a mutually beneficial relationship when the klan truly appreciates what you do. They get their useful minority and you get to be a good one.

No deal? Pathetic lying troll. Fold again, as usual.

Next!!!
 

agent00f

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No deal? Pathetic lying troll. Fold again, as usual.

Next!!!

Evidently rather omnisciently accurate:

Always worth mentioned this is the guy who habitually calls black people chimps, parrots the party line about them mexicans, perceptually acts the trashiest even among the degenerates, then pretends to be some kind of disciple of MLK.

It's basically contemporary conservatism in a nutshell.

This sort's inherent nature is really their worst enemy.
 

greatnoob

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No deal? Pathetic lying troll. Fold again, as usual.

Next!!!

Why do these black thugs/scums pick on smaller/weaker targets in smaller number, always in a larger gang ? Pick on someone larger and in bigger group or fight one on one.

Hmm some stereotypes being thrown around here.

Poor Asian mate Svnla here is so sick of racism towards Asians that he decides to be a racist himself...
None?? Really? Them Asians must be treat like Kings and Queens. <sarcasm>.

Let see, Chineses as sub-humans and not able to become US citizens via Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 (over 100 years ago). Source = http://sun.menloschool.org/~mbrody/ushistory/angel/exclusion_act/

Asian Americans were not paid as much as whites even with same qualifications. Source = http://www.physorg.com/news/2010-12-exposes-racial-discrimination-asian-american-men.html

Discriminations against Asians (for over 200 years), remember Vincent Chin's murder? Story = http://www.asian-nation.org/racism.shtml

Remember "No Japs, No Chinks, No Gooks"?

Shall I go on? The main thing is other minorities work hard to overcome obstacles and don't act like chimps/savages/animals such as these.

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/1...exceptional-restraint-despite-girls-violence/

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news...-Attacked-at-Philly-High-School-78528982.html

I am not white so no racist label for me ()

Loving that last line, "I am not white so no racist label for me ()"
 

Svnla

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Uh oh. A third world Asian immigrant shouldn't be the one making racist statements

Funny how you did NOT bold this part of what I said.

Did you see that black chick in that bus video hang on the rail and tried to kick that guy in the face/head not one or twice but several times

Uh oh indeed. Why is that? Talk about DISHONESTY.

More ad hom attack. What else is new. Can't dispute the facts and the message, attack the message sender.

Edit: Just like I said, NOTHING about me saying anything about minority SOLELY because of their race/creed/skin color and NOTHING else.

NOTHING.
 
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greatnoob

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Funny how you did NOT bold this part of what I said.



Uh oh indeed.

More ad hom attack. What else is new. Can't dispute the facts and the message, attack the message sender.


Can't take ghetto chimp/animal/criminal metality out of certain group for sure.

Hmm. "Certain group"? Which group would that be, bud?

Didn't you ask for proof? Here it is. How is agent lying again?
 

Svnla

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Anyway, the OP is misconstruing Mr. Newman's genuinely valid point (IMO), which is that the subtle passive racism institutionalized into our society is worse than the in-your-face blatant racism from clowns like Spencer. But only because the former is far more prevalent than the latter, and not because there's anything good about Spencer and his ilk.
I do, however, still disagree with Mr Newman's blaming of white liberals for the actions of the police (sorry, but I do see that as paranoid), and I disagree strongly with his rant on cultural appropriation. His point on the local media is probably valid though.

Misconstruing? Nope. I point out the hypocrisy of treating Mr. Newman as a criminal SOLELY because of his race/color/creed while he did nothing wrong while pretending to care.

At least you and a few posters are trying to debate the topic of the thread while the other morons are using ad hom attack to spin and spin. Talk about pathetic trolls.
 

agent00f

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Hmm some stereotypes being thrown around here.

Poor Asian mate Svnla here is so sick of racism towards Asians that he decides to be a racist himself...


Loving that last line, "I am not white so no racist label for me ()"

The most comical part is where he pretends to curry sympathy for oppression against the chinese, then routinely refers to them collectively as cockroaches same as chimps for the blacks.

Basically what's going on that is he believes the low social status he feels as southeast asian (which posts you found) can somehow be alleviated by pushing other ethnic groups even lower on the totem. It's the conservative way, as could be seen by the disproportionate resonance of trump's racial message with lower class/edu whites.
 

Svnla

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There's one important distinction, Svnla: liberals aren't the ones trying to enshrine racism in government policy.

Everyone has to be mindful of their attitude toward others, regardless of their political leanings... but there's a difference between being nervous around non-white people and, say, intentionally neutering the voting power of minorities.

Mr. Newman did not think it was just "being nervous" from what I can read of what he wrote.
 

greatnoob

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The most comical part is where he pretends to curry sympathy for oppression against the chinese, then routinely refers to them collectively as cockroaches same as chimps for the blacks.

Basically what's going on that is he believes the low social status he feels as southeast asian (which posts you found) can somehow be alleviated by pushing other ethnic groups even lower on the totem. It's the conservative way, as could be seen by the disproportionate resonance of trump's racial message with lower class/edu whites.

It's just a shame that @Svnla can't admit to being wrong that he has to edit his posts as a response to me. What a coward.

Edit: Just like I said, NOTHING about me saying anything about minority SOLELY because of their race/creed/skin color and NOTHING else.

NOTHING.

@Svnla can you please tell us which group you were referring to when you said this:

Can't take ghetto chimp/animal/criminal metality out of certain group for sure.

I understand you're in denial and that you can never be wrong (as evidenced by almost every other post of yours) but I just want to see you dig your own grave answering this.
 

agent00f

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It's just a shame that @Svnla can't admit to being wrong that he has to edit his posts as a response to me. What a coward.



@Svnla can you please tell us which group you were referring to when you said this:



I understand you're in denial and that you can never be wrong (as evidenced by almost every other post of yours) but I just want to see you dig your own grave answering this.

A typical answer from him is to point at some instance where he had something positive to say about a black person once. "I'm no racist cus some of them aint so bad" --basically every racist.

But what's really interesting would be for the other conservatives here to answer whether they find svnla to be racist. After all, they are rather keen to point out how racist western liberals are based on the flimsiest of arguments backed by some rando black guy on facebook.
 

Paratus

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You mean like using race as one determinant for admittance to schools? Or using race of the business owners as part of determining who gets government contracts? Using racism to combat racism is still racism. Lets not pretend any different, liberals are just as racist if not more so.

The point you are missing is affirmative action is a small act of restitution the government pays for fucking over a segment of its citizens so profoundly that it will take at least a generation or more to fix.

Now it so happens the government chose its victims based on race so that's who the restitution goes to.

In fact it's pretty racist of you to want to prevent restitution from government malfeasance to victims just because they are minorities.

This is similar to this court case working its way through the system where a federal judge ordered the federal government to uphold its agreements and pay a healthcare provider per the ACA.
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/09/government-short-changed-obamacare-insurer-200-million-dollars.html

Does that bother you too? The government being ordered to pay the party it failed to hold its end of the bargain to? Somehow I think not.

If you find affirmative action loathsome my suggestion is don't vote in politicians who are going to violate the principles behind our laws and require restitution in the first place.
 

JSt0rm

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It's just a shame that @Svnla can't admit to being wrong that he has to edit his posts as a response to me. What a coward.



@Svnla can you please tell us which group you were referring to when you said this:



I understand you're in denial and that you can never be wrong (as evidenced by almost every other post of yours) but I just want to see you dig your own grave answering this.

he will completely ignore this.
 

Pipeline 1010

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The point you are missing is affirmative action is a small act of restitution the government pays for fucking over a segment of its citizens so profoundly that it will take at least a generation or more to fix.

Now it so happens the government chose its victims based on race so that's who the restitution goes to.

I am 100% in agreement that the government should never fuck over a segment of its citizens. I'm not sure that I can agree that screwing over people who didn't do the evil shit in order to give stuff to people whom the evil shit wasn't done to according to a collectivistic classification based on nothing more than skin color is the solution. I'm not offering a solution here, because I don't know what the solution is. But affirmative action doesn't sit well with me due to the fact that it doesn't seem to achieve fairness for individuals.

In fact it's pretty racist of you to want to prevent restitution from government malfeasance to victims just because they are minorities.

Yes, this would be terribly racist if the only reason to oppose affirmative action is racism. Are you able to empathize with any potential non-racist reasons to oppose awarding and denying things to people based on melanin quantity?
 

agent00f

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I am 100% in agreement that the government should never fuck over a segment of its citizens. I'm not sure that I can agree that screwing over people who didn't do the evil shit in order to give stuff to people whom the evil shit wasn't done to according to a collectivistic classification based on nothing more than skin color is the solution. I'm not offering a solution here, because I don't know what the solution is. But affirmative action doesn't sit well with me due to the fact that it doesn't seem to achieve fairness for individuals.



Yes, this would be terribly racist if the only reason to oppose affirmative action is racism. Are you able to empathize with any potential non-racist reasons to oppose awarding and denying things to people based on melanin quantity?

Let's not pretend you give a shit about fairness or any other virtue.

Take any major liberal city. Any.

Seattle. LA. Chicago. New York. San Francisco, etc...

Just think about those cities for 5 minutes. They are hands-down the most segregated cities in the United States.

I find it laughable that this is news for people here....

De facto segregation eg redlining happened in lieu of the south's de jure version. There are the people looking to remedy such issues and others whose social status relies on never understanding any issues. No great mystery which you fall into.
 

Pipeline 1010

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Let's not pretend you give a shit about fairness or any other virtue.

Man that was super fucking harsh. Did you think you were quoting someone else? Same team! We both want fairness, we possibly differ on how to achieve it.
 

agent00f

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Man that was super fucking harsh. Did you think you were quoting someone else? Same team! We both want fairness, we possibly differ on how to achieve it.

The intent of AA is often misunderstood:
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/sc-upholds-ut-affirmative-action.2478216/page-5#post-38314590 and subsequent posts.

The main point being western liberal society has chosen to take collective responsibility in lieu of punishing those most responsible. The better solution which the righteous should support is to make the racists (or their estates) pay for it, but you can see why that's untenable when even the cheapest form of reparations is already hard enough.
 
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Even when understood, it can be a reasonable position to think that AA does not achieve its intent.

The main point being western liberal society has chosen to take collective responsibility in lieu of punishing those most responsible.

That's your problem right there. Let's shit on a bunch of innocent people because other people who look like them did some shit.

The better solution which the righteous should support is to make the racists (or their estates) pay for it

THERE YOU GO!!! See? Same team! The people who did the bad things should pay the monies!!!

but you can see why that's untenable when even the cheapest form of reparations is already hard enough.

Dammit. I am sad now. I thought we solved the problem. Your point seems to be "it is too hard to do the right thing so let's fuck people who didn't do the wrong thing because skin color."

There HAS to be a better way than to hurt people who did no wrong.
 

agent00f

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Even when understood, it can be a reasonable position to think that AA does not achieve its intent.



That's your problem right there. Let's shit on a bunch of innocent people because other people who look like them did some shit.



THERE YOU GO!!! See? Same team! The people who did the bad things should pay the monies!!!



Dammit. I am sad now. I thought we solved the problem. Your point seems to be "it is too hard to do the right thing so let's fuck people who didn't do the wrong thing because skin color."

There HAS to be a better way than to hurt people who did no wrong.

I'm glad you can agree to sign up for the more just course of action starting with giving the relevant land/estates to the descendants of slaves. And similarly punishing participants in systemic bigotry today. Hope you can get that other half the country to go along with this.
 

Pipeline 1010

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I'm glad you can agree to sign up for the more just course of action

I already agreed that wrongs should be made right. You do too. Can we agree to move beyond the "Let's not pretend you give a shit about fairness or any other virtue."? That was an asshole comment and you know it.

OK Good. If someone was wronged then they should be made whole. A civil lawsuit should be sufficient. If something was so wrong that we can pass an entire law to fuck people based on skin color, then a lawsuit should be trivial, no?

starting with giving the relevant land/estates to the descendants of slaves.

And here we go. Should the son be found guilty of the sins of his father? Should the children of the father who was sinned against receive atonement? I don't actually know the answer. This is a HARD question.

And similarly punishing participants in systemic bigotry today. Hope you can get that other half the country to go along with this.

Duuuude!!! Who is arguing against punishing participants in systemic bigotry today? Not me! There is systemic bigotry in policing, drug laws, the court system, the """"correctional"""" system, and far more. We gotta fix that shit. Giving someone a job because of their race doesn't fix any of that. It perpetuates that.
 

Jaskalas

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The point you are missing is affirmative action is a small act of restitution the government pays for fucking over a segment of its citizens so profoundly that it will take at least a generation or more to fix.
There HAS to be a better way than to hurt people who did no wrong.

Basic Income is color blind. It helps those most in need. Compromise and call it a better solution than AA.
 
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