Huge backyard but no fence...what dog breed would be good?

[MaxDSP]

Seriously wanna get a dog, but if we get a pup, would it be a big problem given the fact that our backyard is big, but is not fenced-in? What breeds would be better for this situation?

 

[MikeMike]

invisible fence. get it. its awesome. and then get most any dog you want.

MIKE

 

[PaperclipGod]

Originally posted by: MaxDSP
Seriously wanna get a dog, but if we get a pup, would it be a big problem given the fact that our backyard is big, but is not fenced-in? What breeds would be better for this situation?

Umm... there's no breed of dog that will magically stay within the confines of your unfenced yard.

Just set up a run. A wire hung between two tree's with a leash that can roll across the wire attached to your dog. Let's them run around yet not beyond your yard.

 

[MaxDSP]

Originally posted by: PaperclipGod

Originally posted by: MaxDSP
Seriously wanna get a dog, but if we get a pup, would it be a big problem given the fact that our backyard is big, but is not fenced-in? What breeds would be better for this situation?

Umm... there's no breed of dog that will magically stay within the confines of your unfenced yard.

Just set up a run. A wire hung between two tree's with a leash that can roll across the wire attached to your dog. Let's them run around yet not beyond your yard.

I didnt mean like that but if I was to take the dog outside, would it run around the neighborhood or stay within the owner's vicinity?

 

[Ronstang]

WIth no fence I suggest you get a ceramic dog because tying a dog except occasionally is just not right. If you can't provide a pet the proper home then do the mature thing and choose not to have one.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

There isn't a best breed, what you want can only be accomplished with training. The dog needs to know where the boundries are and how to respect them. The larger, working or sporting breed dogs are usually very good about taking to training and they're fairly territorial, so they'd likely be a better bet than more skittish smaller breeds. My black lab is always out unleashed in a non-fenced yard and won't stray no matter what, but she wasn't born that way. I chased her around the neighborhood a few times when she was young. Consider any of the labs, spaniels, setters or herding dogs.

 

[Vette73]

Get a Doberman. VERY loyal to YOU.

BUT they are NOT outside dogs. Dobes don't like cold. I am looking at some breeders right now as I want a Doberman. They are very loyal to you, and those it has been around when young.

Either that, or just get a boig fat slow dog.

 

[dolph]

seriously, what's wrong with the electric fence idea with any dog? that was the first thing i thought of when i saw the title

 

[bleeb]

Just get a small dawg. b/c small dawg = little shiet.

 

[TwiceOver]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
invisible fence. get it. its awesome. and then get most any dog you want.

MIKE

I can verify this... Our neighbor has an invisible fence, there's not shiite in my lawn.

On another note, if you are going to get a dog, get a DOG. A big MoFo. My woman wants a little yup-yup dog, I hate dogs, but I believe if you are going to get one, go all the way!

 

[HappyPuppy]

Originally posted by: dolph
seriously, what's wrong with the electric fence idea with any dog? that was the first thing i thought of when i saw the title

I would like to tie that electric fence around your gonads and turn it on. How would you like to get an electrical shock every time you were inquisitive?

 

[thedarkwolf]

I have to use one of those invisible fence things because I can't keep one of my dogs in the chain link fence. I have cinder blocks, tent stakes, rocks, and a bunch of other crap lined up all around the bottem of my fence but he just keeps pushing out under it. It was either the shock collar or the chain and I think he is happier with the collar.

I'd say it depends on where you live. If you live out in the middle of nowhere without neighbors then you can probably get away with letting them run although that still isn't a good idea. If you live anywhere else you need a fence of some kind. Nothing worse than people that chain up dogs or stick them in a little pen for their entire lifes.

 

[MaxDSP]

Our choice of breed was going to a medium-size breed, like a Golden Retriever or German Sheperd. Those electric collar things are not an option, as I have heard that they arent too kind to the well-being of the dog.

How much do those invisible fence things cost? The website doesnt list prices

 

[Amused]

...what dog breed would be good?

One that builds you a fence so your mutt doesn't become a scourge on the neighborhood.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Amused

...what dog breed would be good?

One that builds you a fence so your mutt doesn't become a scourge on the neighborhood.

w0rd

Build a fence or have an indoor dog.

- M4H

 

[dolph]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy

Originally posted by: dolph
seriously, what's wrong with the electric fence idea with any dog? that was the first thing i thought of when i saw the title

I would like to tie that electric fence around your gonads and turn it on. How would you like to get an electrical shock every time you were inquisitive?

beats getting eaten by wolves or dying of starvation

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: dolph
seriously, what's wrong with the electric fence idea with any dog? that was the first thing i thought of when i saw the title

Works for some dogs. Not for all though. You get a dog who's stubborn enough and he'll blow right through that thing. They may work or they may not. That's not a risk I'm willing to take with my dog though.

Not to mention the trouble you'll have with a smart dog. A guy I knew had a friend who owned a wolf and used an invisible fence. The wolf would move close enough to the fence to where he was just getting the warning tone but not the shock. Then he'd sit there until the battery in the collar drained. Then he's just walk on out without getting a single jolt. Now wolves are smart, as in problem solving smart, but the point is those collars are not fool proof. If you really care about your pet you'll make sure it's securely contained.

Oh, and while the fence will stop your dog from going outside of your yard that's all it will do. It won't stop another dog from coming into your yard and possibly hurting your dog. It won't stop some little kid from wondering on to your property and getting bitten. It won't stop some a$$hole from coming into your yard and trying to hurt your dog. You get the picture...

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy

Originally posted by: dolph
seriously, what's wrong with the electric fence idea with any dog? that was the first thing i thought of when i saw the title

I would like to tie that electric fence around your gonads and turn it on. How would you like to get an electrical shock every time you were inquisitive?

First off, last time I checked it didn't go around the animals gonads.

Second, I have a shock collar for my dog that I have to use sometimes. He's extremely stubborn. After I got it I jacked that thing up to the highest setting and shocked myself because I wanted to know what it was going to do to him. The shock really isn't that bad at all. It's startles you more than anything else. Just thought I'd spread a few facts around.

 

[LSUfan]

Unless you like the little yip yip dogs, get a cat, other than that you cannot have an outside dog. Cats are great though.
(without the electric fence)

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: MaxDSP
Our choice of breed was going to a medium-size breed, like a Golden Retriever or German Sheperd. Those electric collar things are not an option, as I have heard that they arent too kind to the well-being of the dog.

How much do those invisible fence things cost? The website doesnt list prices

The electric collar feels like a minor static shock, like rubbing your feet on the carpet and touching something. Doesn't work as well with dogs with thick insensitive necks (ie. fighting breeds). Didn't work at all on our Akitas.

 

[OverVolt]

I have a Boston Terrior, without a fence, but when he was a pup we trained him with a fence, but when I moved I didn't have a fence but after hes done his business outside he just stands at the door so hes pretty loyal i'd say.

But whenever hes outside you always have to keep an eye on him and make sure he doesn't wonder off/get attacked by another animal (lots of bobcats where i live). Make sure theres not alot of distractions around your house, i know my dog likes to follow random people and cars which is the only reason he leaves the yard.

 

[calpha]

Oh, and while the fence will stop your dog from going outside of your yard that's all it will do. It won't stop another dog from coming into your yard and possibly hurting your dog. It won't stop some little kid from wondering on to your property and getting bitten. It won't stop some a$$hole from coming into your yard and trying to hurt your dog. You get the picture...

exactly the reason our dogs are indoors. A PITA to keep the house clean but much better then invisible fence IMO. There's kids and other dogs in the neighborhood, plus where I live the stupid Neighborhood Association has a no-fences rule anyway.

My mom got lucky with her dog though. It's a Lab, and is very territorial. It is a definite descendant of Houdini, because it will escape teh confines of the fence and chain without exception (no choke collar used btw), but all she does is jump the fence to sit on the front porch. She doesn't leave the confines of my mom's yard, and will not bother any dogs as long as they don't step in her yard. She's not mean, and doesn't bite, but is very vocal and will let other dogs know to back the truck up if they come close. My mom could live with that dog in the country and she'd be fine. My labs on the other hand would have to explore every knook and crannie available to their four legs. They don't stay around like thier mother.

Long and the short----I'd not recommend an invisible fence. They're expensive, require a lot of training for the dog to properly learn it's boundaries (usually 30 days using flags at first to dentore the fence so the dog knows where the shock line is----but the "Invisible Fence" Brand people say to get a dog to properly obey the Fence does take time and training.

If you really want a dog, I'd get a dog for indoors. There's plenty of breeds that are great. Only one I wouldn't recommend is a Warmaranher (sp?) b/c my wife works w/ a guy who has an indoor one and he says it's hell b/c the dog is one that likes to be outdoors to be able to tap into it's undying energy. Big Dog wise----if you can get one without the slobber/drool, I've read a bunch of articles that say that Mastiffs are great indoor dogs, and even get along with other pets as long as the other pets are there first. An inlaw has had pit bulls for 20 years and says they're the best indoor dog they've ever had.

Anyway---good luck. Having an indoor dog is a lot of work, and eventually you'll realize it's worth it because the dog no longer is just a pet, but a member of the family.

 

[thedarkwolf]

I wouldn't call the invisible fences expensive. I think my kit was $129 and came with the controll box, wire(I bought more regular solid wire at Lowes), and the extra powerfull collar for stubborn dogs. Even with the stubborn dog collar that puts out a bit more juice its still doesn't really hurt but it will startle the hell out of you, I tried it. I doubt it would work for my dog though if it wasn't for the regular chain link fence backing up the invisble one. He is an ass.

The collar does rub on his neck and cause a bit of a raw spot though. When he is inside I take it off and every couple months I start leaving the collar off when he goes outside during the day. Sometimes it only takes him a day to figure out he can escape again others it takes him a month or two. I am hoping as he gets older he will grow out of escaping.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: MaxDSP
Seriously wanna get a dog, but if we get a pup, would it be a big problem given the fact that our backyard is big, but is not fenced-in? What breeds would be better for this situation?

30 caliber Gatling gun will do the job nicely.