Huge new wind farm to be built off of Texas coast - 400 foot turbines!!!

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This is borderline P&N but I think it's a great idea. 125,000 home worth of power that runs FREE (other than maintenance). BoooooYaaaaaaaa!!!

By LYNN BREZOSKY, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 56 minutes ago



SOUTH PADRE ISLAND, Texas - Texas officials announced plans Thursday for the nation's largest offshore wind farm, consisting of as many as 500 windmills out in the Gulf of Mexico.

Houston-based Superior Renewable Energy will build and operate the project, which will be situated within about 10 miles of Padre Island. It is expected to cost $1 billion to $2 billion and should be ready in five years.

Its 400-foot turbines would generate a total of 500 megawatts of electricity, or enough energy for 125,000 homes.

"The wind rush is on," Texas Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson said. "We want to be No. 1. We want to attract the businesses that build the turbines, that build the blades."

Some environmentalists said the spinning blades could kill countless rare birds that migrate through the area each year on their way to and from winter grounds in Mexico and Central America.

"You probably couldn't pick a worse location," said Walter Kittelberger, chairman of the Lower Laguna Madre Foundation, an environmental group named for the strip of water between the mainland and Padre Island.

^^^ fvck them - my 2 cents

John Calaway, Superior's chief executive, said the company would do everything possible to reduce the threat to migrating birds. "Of course there's going to be some mortality, but we don't think it will be significant," he said.

Patterson said the wind farm would be situated off a remote, unpopulated part of Padre Island National Seashore. People who are concerned about the farm obstructing the ocean view "shouldn't have a problem," he said. "There's nobody there to look at it."

The offshore farm is the second announced in less than a year for the Texas coast, joining 50 wind turbines planned off Galveston.

Jerome Collins of the Sierra Club said his and other groups support wind energy and hoped to work with enery producers to prevent bird deaths and protect the scenic landscape.

According to the American Wind Energy Association, the U.S. produces 9,149 megawatts of wind power, enough to power 2.3 million homes annually. The largest U.S. wind farm is the Stateline Wind Energy Center on the Oregon-Washington line, producing 300 megawatts of electricity.

The Texas announcement comes amid a bitter fight over a proposed 130-turbine wind farm off Cape Cod, Mass., where residents fear the turbines will be unsightly.

By the way, I think seeing a 400 foot turbine farm out in the ocean would be awsome!
 

erikistired

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omg. not the birds! they couldn't learn to fly around them! i mean there are NO windmills anywhere else in the world right?
 

tennisflip

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"Some environmentalists said the spinning blades could kill countless rare birds that migrate through the area each year on their way to and from winter grounds in Mexico and Central America."

I'm no evironmentalist but that's the first thing that came to my mind about the project without even reading the ariticle. I believe the same concern is being voiced about building the wall to separate us from Mexico since it would prevent migration of land based animals. If some birds get killed wouldn't that just count as natural selection?
 

sniperruff

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Originally posted by: tennisflip
"Some environmentalists said the spinning blades could kill countless rare birds that migrate through the area each year on their way to and from winter grounds in Mexico and Central America."

I'm no evironmentalist but that's the first thing that came to my mind about the project without even reading the ariticle. I believe the same concern is being voiced about building the wall to separate us from Mexico since it would prevent migration of land based animals. If some birds get killed wouldn't that just count as natural selection?

not when a man-made blade cuts up the bird.
 

Forsythe

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A few points.

Well, 6 years ago i could've sworn to you this would've been danish technology. Today i'm not so sure as the current conservative government has screwed up the head start denmark had in this field.

The point about the birds seems far fetched, it would happen ofcourse, but i think the spinning things themselves might keep them far enough away, i know i've never heard of that problem before, which i should because denmark has been considered world leading in this and alot of research has been done.
The only problems that have been brought over here about seabased windmills is that they might ruin the aquatic life. But in fact studies have shown that these fundaments actually create artificial reefs (spl) and are actually good for the environment.

To summarize, cool.
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: tennisflip
"Some environmentalists said the spinning blades could kill countless rare birds that migrate through the area each year on their way to and from winter grounds in Mexico and Central America."

I'm no evironmentalist but that's the first thing that came to my mind about the project without even reading the ariticle. I believe the same concern is being voiced about building the wall to separate us from Mexico since it would prevent migration of land based animals. If some birds get killed wouldn't that just count as natural selection?

not when a man-made blade cuts up the bird.

Yeah, i think you're not putting in how slowly these revolve, and if the movement itself wouldn't scare the birds away.
 

drinkmorejava

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can't they just set up some ultrasonic drone that'll piss off any birds that go near it, that should immedietly keep 90%+ away. Shouldn't be a whole lot of land animals around there either to be bothered.
 

DaveSimmons

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I hate the dirty hippies as much as the next (cart)man, but they were right about naval sonar killing whales so they might be right about this project also serving as a giant flock-chopper.

I know land-based turbines rack up their share of KILLING SPREE!! so the concern is at least plausible. I certainly don't trust the developers to have done due dilligence if it meant giving up profit.
 

kosstamogen

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"Some environmentalists said the spinning blades could kill countless rare birds that migrate through the area each year on their way to and from winter grounds in Mexico and Central America."

They should put these environmentalists in a pit with environmentalists who think coal/gas/nuclear/etc power plants should be banned and have them duke it out. Then have the W stomp them both out.

Btw I think solar power plants might burn large populations of birds as they reflect and concentrate the sunlight.
Rat powered cars would harm rats! We need a source of magical energy from a magical energy fairy land where everything is made out of chocolate and sweets!
 

Forsythe

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How about a new star wars project that fires down every bird approaching!?

Oh wait, save the birds. Damned.
 

myusername

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Originally posted by: kosstamogen
"Some environmentalists said the spinning blades could kill countless rare birds that migrate through the area each year on their way to and from winter grounds in Mexico and Central America."

They should put these environmentalists in a pit with environmentalists who think coal/gas/nuclear/etc power plants should be banned and have them duke it out. Then have the W stomp them both out.

Btw I think solar power plants might burn large populations of birds as they reflect and concentrate the sunlight.
Rat powered cars would harm rats! We need a source of magical energy from a magical energy fairy land where everything is made out of chocolate and sweets!

It's called petroleum, and you and your ilk squandered it. Once we run out of energy and arable land and wildlife, you can feast on the body of my rotting corpse while you burn the Jews to keep your house warm.


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Originally posted by: kosstamogen
We need a source of magical energy from a magical energy fairy land where everything is made out of chocolate and sweets!

the hardcore enviromentalists won't be happy till we find this

Originally posted by: myusername
It's called petroleum, and you and your ilk squandered it. Once we run out of energy and arable land and wildlife, you can feast on the body of my rotting corpse while you burn the Jews to keep your house warm.

and what is this guy's problem?
 

S Freud

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They already have some of these windfarms in place in Oregon, one was just 45 miles from my hometown. The blades do spin very slowly, but at times can get moving pretty fast. As far as the bird situation I don't think that should be a problem, the movement usually warnes them.

On another unmentioned note, whoever the land belongs to that they plan to put these things on is going to rake in a lot of money. A judge owns the land that the wind farm was placed on where I lived. I've spoken with her a few times, she never gives away how much they actually make. But within a year she had two brand new cars, and a three story eight bedroom house being built.

They are pretty cool to watch also, especially at night, all the lights on them blinking, it looks like they go on forever. And its astonishing to see something that big when you drive or walk by it.
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: S Freud
They already have some of these windfarms in place in Oregon, one was just 45 miles from my hometown. The blades do spin very slowly, but at times can get moving pretty fast. As far as the bird situation I don't think that should be a problem, the movement usually warnes them.

On another unmentioned note, whoever the land belongs to that they plan to put these things on is going to rake in a lot of money. A judge owns the land that the wind farm was placed on where I lived. I've spoken with her a few times, she never gives away how much they actually make. But within a year she had two brand new cars, and a three story eight bedroom house being built.

They are pretty cool to watch also, especially at night, all the lights on them blinking, it looks like they go on forever. And its astonishing to see something that big when you drive or walk by it.

I think it's beautiful, yes. And they do spin very slowly. Actually, it doesn't take much wind before they are stopped totaly because they go too fast.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: myusername
Originally posted by: kosstamogen
"Some environmentalists said the spinning blades could kill countless rare birds that migrate through the area each year on their way to and from winter grounds in Mexico and Central America."

They should put these environmentalists in a pit with environmentalists who think coal/gas/nuclear/etc power plants should be banned and have them duke it out. Then have the W stomp them both out.

Btw I think solar power plants might burn large populations of birds as they reflect and concentrate the sunlight.
Rat powered cars would harm rats! We need a source of magical energy from a magical energy fairy land where everything is made out of chocolate and sweets!

It's called petroleum, and you and your ilk squandered it. Once we run out of energy and arable land and wildlife, you can feast on the body of my rotting corpse while you burn the Jews to keep your house warm.

wow.

i think you may need to take a break from here and heck the whole net. you sound like you need a break.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: mchammer
Just don't put in major migration pathway, problem solved no?

For the most part. I like how everyone here immediately blames the environmentalists for expressing concern while they know nothing about the subject. If wind turbines are properly placed and designed, they do not pose much of a problem. If they screw it up, it causes major problems.
 

DaiShan

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Originally posted by: myusername
Originally posted by: kosstamogen
"Some environmentalists said the spinning blades could kill countless rare birds that migrate through the area each year on their way to and from winter grounds in Mexico and Central America."

They should put these environmentalists in a pit with environmentalists who think coal/gas/nuclear/etc power plants should be banned and have them duke it out. Then have the W stomp them both out.

Btw I think solar power plants might burn large populations of birds as they reflect and concentrate the sunlight.
Rat powered cars would harm rats! We need a source of magical energy from a magical energy fairy land where everything is made out of chocolate and sweets!

It's called petroleum, and you and your ilk squandered it. Once we run out of energy and arable land and wildlife, you can feast on the body of my rotting corpse while you burn the Jews to keep your house warm.


Wow. Maybe that was a little extreme? LOL.
 
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