Hugely Overrated Games

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Zelda Ocarina of Time. Mass Effect.
I disagree with you on these two. I really, really don't like Zelda as a series, but I will say that Ocarina of Time is one of the best games I have ever played. I never actually played Mass Effect, but I've watched my roommate play for hours and it seems like an extremely fleshed-out universe. The fact that I can watch the game for hours and not get bored tells me that it is a good game (albeit not my general cup of tea). I completely agree with you about MGS 4, however, and I'd like to expand by reposting a rant I wrote about the single most overrated game of all time: the illustrious Metal Gear Solid 2.

The game starts off well enough: You're Solid Snake, you've infiltrated a ship, and you go about using an arsenal of badass tricks built up over a badass lifetime of being a badass (never has hiding under a box been so unequivocally badass). You get to knock guards unconscious, hide them in lockers, overhear conversations while hiding under tables, teach a crazy Russian chick the importance of feminine hygiene, sneak into a military security briefing and escape unharmed and send random pornographic images to your nerdy buddy back home. It's thirty minutes of stealth gameplay so badass it's been linked to accelerated beard growth in children...

And then the game changes up and says, "Hey, you know that awesome guy you were playing as? Yeah, clearly you can't handle that much raw masculinity, so for the rest of the game, you get to be a gay surfer whose special power seems to be a unique ability to slip in bird shit every 12 seconds." It's a bit like the people in Indianapolis who have gotten used to the badassery of Peyton Manning and this season were told "all right, enough of all that, here's Curtis Painter!" Except that Solid Snake isn't injured; he actually shows up to laugh at you later in the game. There's no reason to be playing as Uberdork of the Hill People, but there you are, getting laughed at by the competent superspy the game teases you with. What the fuck?

Let's fast forward past the vampire that runs on water, the chick who's so badass bullets dodge her, the fat guy with a penchant for blowing shit up and the invisible ninja who works for the so-badass-we-had-to-come-up-with-a-name-we-dare-you-to-take-seriously "La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo" (nope, can't do it); this is Metal Gear, the characters are supposed to be ridiculous. Hell, Metal Gear Solid 1 was a great game and one of the primary villains is a floating psychic. No, I'll ignore all that for now and jump right into the last act of the game.

So you've been captured, knocked out, stripped naked, and then set free to run around covering your junk the way any superspy would in that situation. Ordinarily, this would be about as bizarre as a major game would get before the producers started wondering if maybe people wouldn't buy it, but not MGS. Oh no. No, Hideo Kojima ups the surrealist ante when the Colonel, who normally only calls to give you missions or Earth-shattering plot twists, starts phoning you up to talk about how he prunes his chrysanthemums or tells you to turn the game console off. Then the screen randomly goes into the "death cam" shot and you get the inevitable message of failure: Fission Mailed. Wait, what?

OK, so that's all a complete mindfuck, but less in the "whoa, that's AWESOME" way, and more in the "is Japan's drug policy really that much looser than ours?" Soon after, you're reunited with your clothes, and proceed to fight off approximately 275 Gundam Mechs... I mean, Metal Gears. These things are supposed to revolutionize warfare, but they're no match for the raw sexitude of Bret Michaels' stunt double. Then you're treated to more bullshit from the phony Colonel and it turns out that you've been in the Matrix the entire time and reality is simply advanced AI.... What the fucking fuck? I know the game features over-the-top characters, but Metal Gear Solid 1 was at least somewhat believable without resorting to the laziest deus ex machina plot device a story can use: "It’s all a dream!" Bullshit. It's lazy story-telling and it completely ruined the entire Metal Gear series.

tldr; Metal Gear Solid 2 sucked ass.
 

micrometers

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the ridiculous part of MGS2 was how octocon or someone made some weird incest confession.

MGS1 was cool though in making you change the control port, that I do agree was magical.
 

Sulaco

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Fallout 3 I could tell from a few videos that I wouldn't much care for the game. Games that tout freedom and choice seem to instead offer being stuck not knowing how to advance the story. I mean, games are like a roller coaster ride in a lot of ways, and I think it's preferable that they be highly scripted.

But in the case of fallout 3 I think people were reacting to the graphics engine and the franchise. It seems like every major game that's on the unreal engine and has lots of polish will get an 8.0, gam play not really mattering..

If you didn't know how to advance the story in Fallout 3, with all due respect, that's all on you. I mean, it could not GET any simpler. Your "journal" essentially tells you EXACTLY what to do, where to go, who to talk to, and what's more...you have it displayed FOR YOU ON YOUR MAP AND COMPASS.
 
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gorcorps

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Halo 2 was excellent due solely to multiplayer, so I'd say this opinion is subjective depending on which you're interested in.

Halo Reach is also pretty good, but I'm not sure it was ever "super highly rated", at least not that I've seen. It was just rated as a good game, which it is.

Final Fantasy VII was excellent as well as IX. I also really liked the XI online version, but you had to be pretty dedicated. VIII was terrible (IMO) and I'm having trouble getting into XIII.

Umm... all opinions are subjective. That's why they're opinions.
 

IGemini

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GTA4/RDR: I dunno what Rockstar did with the Rage engine but the controls are absolutely insufferable. Sluggish movement reponse and terrible registry. WTF is up with mashing a button to run? RDR was my worst purchase ever. Even at $40 used it didn't pay for itself in time spent.

First-person shooters in general are so saturated in the market. Modern Warfare could've shaved all of that down to 1-2 games because it's the most transparent recycling in a series, ever. MW2 saw engine improvements and that was it. I don't care about the BF3 vs. MW3 crap going on now because EA owns them both.
 

American Gunner

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GTA4/RDR: I dunno what Rockstar did with the Rage engine but the controls are absolutely insufferable. Sluggish movement reponse and terrible registry. WTF is up with mashing a button to run? RDR was my worst purchase ever. Even at $40 used it didn't pay for itself in time spent.

First-person shooters in general are so saturated in the market. Modern Warfare could've shaved all of that down to 1-2 games because it's the most transparent recycling in a series, ever. MW2 saw engine improvements and that was it. I don't care about the BF3 vs. MW3 crap going on now because EA owns them both.
You sure about that?
 

lokiju

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Fallout 3 I could tell from a few videos that I wouldn't much care for the game. Games that tout freedom and choice seem to instead offer being stuck not knowing how to advance the story. I mean, games are like a roller coaster ride in a lot of ways, and I think it's preferable that they be highly scripted.

But in the case of fallout 3 I think people were reacting to the graphics engine and the franchise. It seems like every major game that's on the unreal engine and has lots of polish will get an 8.0, gam play not really mattering.

I can say that I found batman arkham asylum not so interesting. maybe I"m jaded after having my mind blown by prince of persia sands of time.

If all you did was watch trailers and not actually play the game I could see how you came to that opinion but playing it is a different story.

The graphics are not all that great and pretty horrible frame rate at many points in the game (at least on the PS3) but what it lacks in polish it made up for in a well thought out story with good to great voice acting and the option to go straight through the game or take your time and find and do every little possible thing.

I've never played a game for as many hours as I played that game.
 

Obsoleet

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Almost all new releases.

As a rule, you can really only rely on Valve releases anymore to be something unique, interesting or good.
 

Aikouka

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Borderlands - crappy gameplay, crappy characters, crappy weapons, crappy experience system.

I didn't think Borderlands was considered a great game by the media.

Personally, I'm a fan of Borderlands, but whenever I bring it up, I always put out the stipulations in there to try to give people an idea of what they may be getting into. I think the game works, but typically only if you've played and enjoyed MMOs (very similar quest-wise to Borderlands) or loot whore games (like Diablo, Torchlight, etc.) before.
 

sao123

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Oblivion/Fallout 3/New Vegas

Pretty much only how "open" they are is what keeps me coming back. Graphics suck, storylines suck, voice acting is atrocious (save for one or two characters in the whole game), every dungeon lay-out in each game is all the same and reuse the same crappy textures everywhere, being able to quickly get to the ridiculously low level cap and easily kill everything, plus of course how buggy everything is when released. Not horrible games but no way would I ever say these are great games.

ill agree with oblivion, but for a completely different reason...

a fantasy RPG should never have been built on a FPS engine like that of fallout. having enjoyed RPG's such as Zelda and Wow, RPGs should have a targeting system, not rely on the joystick to keep crossairs on your target...

who the hell casts fireballs to an imaginary crossairs anyways?
 

micrometers

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If all you did was watch trailers and not actually play the game I could see how you came to that opinion but playing it is a different story.

The graphics are not all that great and pretty horrible frame rate at many points in the game (at least on the PS3) but what it lacks in polish it made up for in a well thought out story with good to great voice acting and the option to go straight through the game or take your time and find and do every little possible thing.

I've never played a game for as many hours as I played that game.

I did enjoy mass effect 2 quite a bit. Is it similar to fallout 3? Or is fallout 3 more RPG-ey, like Mass Effect 1?
 

bl4ckfl4g

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In general I find that I agree with gaming sites, but occasionally there's a real stinker of a game which just exposes gaming culture bias.

1. Metal Gear Solid 4. Awful game, especially compared to the great Metal Gear Solid 3. Good graphics, but level design was bland and didn't really force you to use stealth. I easily got to the end by the most brutal way: run and gun.

Also, the game was mostly cutscene, and the cutscenes were melodramatic and stupid. Worst offender was towards the end when a guy gets his limbs cut off MOnty Python style and then jumps around with a sword in his teeth. Yeah.

2. Zelda Ocarina of Time. I played Windwaker first before this one, and I found Windwaker to be superior in every imaginable fashion.

3. Mass Effect. Space marine saves the universe by shooting bad guys in an anti-septic universe. Something about this game was sterile and boring compared to other sci-fi universes like Halo or KOTOR

4. Dragon Age Origins. Too dark and serious, lots of long expository and dull dialogue. Combat system didn't really work either. It resembled world of warcraft very much and yet had a far less interesting art style and a far less interesting combat system.

Sorry you only named 1 overrated game. The rest were great.

Mgs4 sucks.
 

micrometers

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I'm actually inclined to agree with you. Of the four I listed in the OP, the biggest stinker is MGS4. By a long shot.
 
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