Hugo Chavez has cancer

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werepossum

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I would have thought cancer would have avoided Chavez out of professional courtesy . . .

Worth saying though that cancer is no longer necessarily fatal, even in Cuba. Well, even in Cuba if you are a Very Important Person, which in Cuba Chavez most certainly is.
 

Gintaras

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Cuba.. because michael moore said they had the best healthcare system.

No need to laugh about, since you have nothing to compare...Have you visited any doctors except doctors in US?
If not, you should just shut up, because, most likely, you're just another US Media Product...

I lived for 30 years in former USSR and 20 - in US...I wouldn't go to american doctor, I've tried...Not that level as of a medical doctor, more - as of businessmen...

So, now I go to russian-american doctor and I don't hear stuff what I've heard when I've visited american doctors

Michael Moore is right...I can confirm since I have experience - not Cuba, but USSR, both both are the same to americans - not talking just about doctors, even geography level they-americans are the almost the same - Socialism/Communism is very scare, isn't???

Propaganda is US works much better than one in USSR...
 

matt0611

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Can someone explain to me why so many Americans have such a hard on for hating the man? I realize he's not shy about not liking us, and that his socialist standing is anathema to American conservatives, but really what gives?

Has he tried to overthrow our government or something?


Sorry, I just have a hatred for totalitarian governments and pseudo-dictators.
Especially ones that cause such harm to the people of their country.

I hope he dies in a very long and very painful death.
 

KlokWyze

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Sorry, I just have a hatred for totalitarian governments and pseudo-dictators.
Especially ones that cause such harm to the people of their country.

I hope he dies in a very long and very painful death.

Don't we have pseudo-dictators though? Many policies are left untouched, regardless of which of the two parties are in power. The hate of him is just puppet of propaganda idiotism. Would you be able to debate with him? Or would you just froth out the mouth with hateful belligerent insults?

Same thing with Ahmadinejad.

I forgot about the earthquake machine. He's a looney tune.

My favorite was the "it smells of sulfur" speech (referring to Bush).

I rate him about equal to Bush or Obama though. Just another politician, only slightly more entertaining, in an autistic way. Kind of endearing.
 

matt0611

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Don't we have pseudo-dictators though? Many policies are left untouched, regardless of which of the two parties are in power. The hate of him is just puppet of propaganda idiotism. Would you be able to debate with him? Or would you just froth out the mouth with hateful belligerent insults?

Same thing with Ahmadinejad.



My favorite was the "it smells of sulfur" speech (referring to Bush).

I rate him about equal to Bush or Obama though. Just another politician, only slightly more entertaining, in an autistic way. Kind of endearing.

Do we have psuedo-dictators? Kinda, not to the level of Chavez though. We also still have a semblance of a democracy, free elections, freedom of speech/press, etc
Would I be able to debate with him? I guess, I don't see what that would do though.

Chavez and Ahmadinejad are both evil men. They care for nothing but for themselves and their own lust for power.
I hate evil.
 
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Cogman

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Couldn't have happened to a nicer man.

BTW, for those wondering "why the hate" This guy is a dictator plain and simple. I know someone personally who's father was assassinated because he just so happened to have a different political opinion than Chavez (before he was elected).
 
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RedChief

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According to a Venezuelan immigrant that I indirectly know, the guy is quite a polarizing figure back in Venezuela. The Venezuelans of European descent (which constitute most of the middle / upper class) hate him, bash him in the media (back when they were able to do so) and have tried to overthrow him. The indigenous population (slight majority / most of the lower classes) love him for his socialist / handout policies.

Naturally, we can identify with the Venezuelan opposition rather than Chavez's base, which seem bent on a nationalization spree and are actively working towards real socialism and making Chavez a perpetual dictator (somewhat legally). It is also in our national interest for Venezuela to allow foreign investment (which the opposition would encourage) due to their natural resources.

He is also the figurehead of a greater anti-west, pro-socialist movement in South America and is actively supporting terrorist activities against our ally Columbia.

Chavez, himself, is trying to become the 21st century Castro. IMO, he can safely be ignored, the less we assert ourselves down there, the less ammunition he has to use against us. Plus, he makes for some good lulz when he visits the UN or speaks of our Earthquake Weapon that we used to destroy Haiti (to justify "invading" them).

The problem is Venezuela, like Iran, has oil. Now if they were a poor country like Peru or Zimbabwe, I wouldn't give a crap. But that oil allows them to export their ideology to other countries and destabilize their enemies. Columbia has finally pulled itself out of hell it went through with the narcos in the 80s/90s yet Chavez actively funds terrorists in Columbia.
 

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I have no love for Chavez, but I do not wish cancer on anyone.

It would have been best for republicans (notice it is not capitalized) to stab him to death on their senate floor the day he used his underhanded dealings to obtain the power to rule by decree or when he reveled his true intentions to have those powers for life.

Why not? He's a lot like Machiavelli whom you find sig worthy.
 

woolfe9999

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I was interested to read on Wikipedia that Hugo Chavex has a twitter account with more than a million followers. Apparently there are people who like him and want to hear what he has to say. I guess the USA perspective that anyone who tries to shift the balance of power away from an elite minority toward the majority is necessarily evil isn't a view that is universally held.

There are enough people in various places in the world who hate the US that any world leader who positions himself as a hater of the US will gain some international popularity for that alone. Doesn't mean much of anything except to confirm the obvious - that there are people in the world who hate the US.
 

matt0611

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Couldn't have happened to a nicer man.

BTW, for those wondering "why the hate" This guy is a dictator plain and simple. I know someone personally who's father was assassinated because he just so happened to have a different political opinion than Chavez (before he was elected).

But, but he's just trying to bring the power back to the common people from the rich capitalist borgeois! Don't you know?!

I mean, the guy has a million twitter followers!
 

D-Man

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I have some personal animosity towards him I just cant help it. I hate the thought of Chavez becoming a perpetual dictator.
 

nobodyknows

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It would be interesting to know what kind of cancer he has and what treatment he is getting.
 

ProfJohn

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Don't we have pseudo-dictators though? Many policies are left untouched, regardless of which of the two parties are in power.
You are an idiot.

In NYC we got Mr. The rent is too damn high being invited to debates like he has a chance to win.

In Venezuela anyone who tries to debate Chavez gets locked up or has their business taken away.


I fear for this country because dumb-asses like you who have no clue how the outside world really works.
 

Cogman

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But, but he's just trying to bring the power back to the common people from the rich capitalist borgeois! Don't you know?!

I mean, the guy has a million twitter followers!

Yeah... Seeing the hell it put my friend and his family through when his dad was assassinated was pretty heart breaking. I find it pretty hard to feel pity for a man that murders in cold blood.

Of course you won't find much, if any, news about it. After all, fearless leader can't be seen as a bad guy.

Blanco my friends last name, I don't know what his fathers first name was (who knows, maybe someone with better googling skills than I can find it).
 
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