Hugo Chavez is Dead

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TechBoyJK

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Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity are tools also. I'll be glad when they're off the air but not glad when they're dead.

So little humanity is being shown in P&N today. Not surprising considering the decreasing quality of posters in here as of the last couple years.

fuck chavez
 

Abwx

Lifer
Apr 2, 2011
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Where in my statement did I say they should let foreigners come in and establish their government. I said that the upper and middle class would rather elect a president than have dictator that rigs elections in his favor.

Wich meedle class ?

In 1996 70% where under poverty level under the rule
of the 5% that where the upper class , the meddle class
accounted for 20% at the time.

Keep you facts straight before posting utter lies.
 

nightspydk

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Sep 7, 2012
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He's dead?
Damn I was hooping the dude would bring the world to some realization. Miss him allready.

RIP. :'(
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Wich meedle class ?

In 1996 70% where under poverty level under the rule
of the 5% that where the upper class , the meddle class
accounted for 20% at the time.

Keep you facts straight before posting utter lies.

Carracas has been reduced to a gutted, festering shithole over the last two decades when, as late as the mid 80s, it was seen as a rather cosmopolitan city--a jewel in South America, actually.

Chavez was an utter piece of shit. You should move to Carracas since you prefer to schlob the knob of an incompetent and blathering communist swine.
 

Abwx

Lifer
Apr 2, 2011
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Carracas has been reduced to a gutted, festering shithole over the last two decades when, as late as the mid 80s, it was seen as a rather cosmopolitan city--a jewel in South America, actually.

Chavez was an utter piece of shit. You should move to Carracas since you prefer to schlob the knob of an incompetent and blathering communist swine.

A jewel ?.lol , it was a place where most people where starving.

Fortunately Comrade Hugo thrown out the vampires
that where monopolizing the national ressources.

Go read rather than repeating the WS propaganda...

According to The Washington Post, citing statistics from the United Nations, poverty in Venezuela stood at 28% in 2008,[260] down from 55.44% in 1998 before Chávez got into office.[261] Economist Mark Weisbrot found that, "During the ... economic expansion, the poverty rate [was] cut by more than half, from 54 percent of households in the first half of 2003 to 26 percent at the end of 2008. Extreme poverty has fallen even more, by 72 percent. These poverty rates measure only cash income, and does take into account increased access to health care or education."[247][262]

Between 1998 and 2006 malnutrition related deaths fell by 50%.[247][270] In October 2009, the Executive Director of the National Institute of Nutrition (INN) Marilyn Di Luca reported that the average daily caloric intake of the Venezuelan people had reached 2790 calories, and that malnutrition had fallen from 21% in 1998 to 6%.[271]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Chávez
 

Leymenaide

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The day will come when the rest of you wake up and call for justice for the Worker.
 

Gintaras

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Wich meedle class ?

In 1996 70% where under poverty level under the rule
of the 5% that where the upper class , the meddle class
accounted for 20% at the time.

Keep you facts straight before posting utter lies.

Middle...not meedle...

Now about facts:

Begin 1st from what Erich Maria Remarque has said:

"One's death is a Tragedy, many deaths - just Statistics"

Before you go into statisctis/percentage:

Venezuela has ~ 30 million of population...in US, population in Poverty ~ 40 million and growing...

More people in US live in poverty than the whole population of Venezuela....where, of course, not all live in poverty...

And remember words of E.M.Remarque...Not everyone wants to be a Statistics or a Piece of Percentage?

Now, facts, how people in US live:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Total Debt per citizen: ~ $184.000

It's not that bad? JUST $184.000 per citizen....and how do you think to pay off this? When and how?

What if you'll lose your job tomorrow? how will you pay your debt?

Now,...what is US dollar? a currency...isn't it?
Any countries currency is printed according goods that country has made, produced...in Normal Economy...
Do US follow Normal Economy rules...

What would happen, if Federal Reserve printing machine stops, if no credit cards accepted?

What would you do then?
Or still you think, China will make underwear for you endlessly, without you need to pay for it?
 

nightspydk

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Don't forget the US treasury is privately owned and loans dollars to the people. Yes imagine the implications. :huh
 

gevorg

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I'll see your DU munitions (Russia has/uses these too BTW) and raise with Chernobyl

Hahaha! Troll? Chernobyl was a nuclear reactor accident, depleted uranium is an active US/NATO military weapon. Russia never used DU in combat.
 
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nightspydk

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Did that guy actually say that. Du these guys as american hold less respect for us eu guys me wonder and don't argue you did this yourself and I have a family like yours of combatants, but that is also a naughty word.

I feel sick.
 

Whiskey16

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Jul 11, 2011
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Guess I should have posted this in the Debate forum where an adult discussion could take place. Feel free to move this mods.
Too late.... The rabid and rather vapid ideologues have pounced on it.

The USA has a long and sordid history of vilifying a democratically elected governments in Latin America that do not bend over to its whims.

Say what you will about Chavez's nationalism and fiscal policy, but as he did win internationally monitored ejections, a dictator he was not.
 
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