Human Life Poll breaks down

[markymoo]

If God created everything, you overlook one simple flaw, who created God? for your God to exist which takes us back to molecules and atoms again. Something has to come from something even God! was it another god? where did that god come from? you see it all started from something and so even God was created from a possible nothing. So we all have the power to become God.

We must of evolved with the earth because the simple fact is fruits and vegetables are good for us. we should of stuck to those but we got greedy and moved onto meat. somewhere down the road we have mutated from something to surpass everything else on the planet. could be that we are from aliens and they dropped us off to live on earth. we are the strongest virus spreading. will we be stopped?. we will kill us the earth and everything in it. what a great accomplishment!

Religion is the biggest scam on the planet. Thousands of years ago people didnt know any better. They were told by a few this is the way it is and majority believed the few as we believe in scientists now. They didnt have science backed up by facts and reality as we do now. The truth will set you free. We maybe one day know the mind of God. People who have been brought up on religion all there lives are basically brainwashed and can't think beyond that. There is going on something far bigger beyond your tiny mind.

We are nobodys, a insignificant. a microcosm in the whole millions of galaxies. Its arrogant to think theres nothing other than us just because we dont know more. The chances of another planetary system just like ours is high because of the sheer vastness of space. What created all the galaxies? What is the point of all this existence. Something must of come from something. We are not alone.

The stupidiest people will inherit the earth because they have more children. clever people will have less children because they give a damn about the environment.

The planets population has increased from 2 billion to 6 billion just in 30 years! How long you think more the planet can sustain that amount of people at that savage rate? There will have to be some culling maybe from some major disease even if intentional.

Humans are the stupidiest thing on the planet no other animal tries to destroy the planet. All that power and we let corrupt people rule our lives.

If man was made in the image of Jesus then we have the power to become God.

I will leave you with this. Its not about left or right like in america but about whats right and wrong and good and bad human choices.

 

[Lonyo]

:beer:

 

[Bateluer]

Revision and editing needed. You make some good points, but it reads like a rambling essay from a 6th grader.

By the way, meat is good for you too. Humans are omnivores, able to eat and digest both meat and plants. If the meat is prepared in an unhealthy manner, thats not the fault of the meat. You can just as easily prepare fruits and veggies in an unhealthy manner.

 

[leftyman]

Pecan Pie.

 

[Tobolo]

5/10

 

[TecHNooB]

Your first argument isn't going to go over well.. you've applied too much science to it. The rest is meh. I don't believe in religion, but I'm sure most would agree that if religion helps you become a better person, then that's all that matters.

 

[markymoo]

science is actual truth and fact of reality to everything around us. what can be more than that? religion is just faith and belief. religion is used to fill the gap because people dont know the truth.

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: markymoo
science is actual truth and fact of reality,. what can be more than that? religion is just faith and belief. religion is used to fill the gap because people dont know the truth

Quick edit! Saying 9/11 was an inside job won't help you too much

 

[markymoo]

im talking about finding out the truth. we wouldnt of got very far if all we had was faith nothing would be accomplished and we still be in the stoneage. certain people need religion to hold onto as some crutch because they are weak because they cant think outside the box. thats why man progress has been hampered. so thats why we have wars in first place because poor education. they have poor mentality either due to there families beliefs or otherwise. if religion didnt exist we be alot better off. people can be good and ethical without religion. i dont need relifgion to know not to harm or kill etc. if you think you need religion to become a better man then you missing something. i can be a better man without religion its called common sense and intelligence!

 

[z0mb13]

we need to give u an inside job...

 

[j00fek]

cliffs plz

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: markymoo
science is actual truth and fact of reality to everything around us. what can be more than that? religion is just faith and belief. religion is used to fill the gap because people dont know the truth.

Science and religion are two sides of a coin, not mutually exclusive.

 

[Malladine]

simple answer would be that god is not made of molecules and atoms.

 

[pontifex]

i was reading something last night about the Apocalypse. Supposedly one of the the signs of the Apocalypse is the explanation of natural phenomena.

Isn't that called science?

I generally tend to believe that religion was created to keep people in line. If you do bad things, you go to Hell for punishment. This worked for awhile because pretty much everything for awhile was attributed to demons or magic.

so on top of keeping people in line, it seems to me that the church wanted to stop science also so that we wouldn't figure out that rain wasn't God's tears, it was caused by whatever science knows about it, and therefore God isn't real.

 

[JujuFish]

Are you 12?

 

[markymoo]

when will you see that science is actual truth and fact of reality. its how it is. religion is just a belief system put in place by man like was said to keep everybody in place.

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: markymoo
im talking about finding out the truth. we wouldnt of got very far if all we had was faith nothing would be accomplished and we still be in the stoneage. certain people need religion to hold onto as some crutch because they are weak because they cant think outside the box. thats why man progress has been hampered. so thats why we have wars in first place because poor education. they have poor mentality either due to there families beliefs or otherwise. if religion didnt exist we be alot better off. people can be good and ethical without religion. i dont need relifgion to know not to harm or kill etc. if you think you need religion to become a better man then you missing something. i can be a better man without religion its called common sense and intelligence!

The problem is that when religion first appeared, it generally was a good thing. Back then people needed something to guide them to be good people, be it fear of being stuck in hell, etc.. Science wasn't around back then like it is now in it's current form; there were no standard methodologies for verification of data, etc.. People just believed in whatever was most believable at the time.

The conflict between science and religion started as science began to expand into the field where originally religion dominated; that is to say, science conflicted with chief belief systems of various religions. For example when it was discovered that the earth was not in the center of the universe, this conflicted with the religious view at that time, and so caused a great uproar. Since then, science has slowly encroached into areas which were previously considered unknowable, therefore fell into the realm of religion as people wanted to establish beliefs so that they thought they knew what was going on.

Ever since then, some people refuse to acknolwedge facts and stick to the old ways, even despite clear evidence to the contrary, as it puts them at risk of having to re-evaluate where they stand in terms of religion. For a younger person this may seem to be an easier decision, however if someone was much further along in life and had firmly established beliefs as the root structure of their hierarchy of beliefs, then this puts everything they have based their life around at risk. Therefore it's more simple to deny it and come up with a reason which might sound slightly plausable to the uneducated mind and use that instead, saying that the evidence was invalid despite evidence to the contrary.

So the point is, is that if someone who were religious and believed heavily that God created men 10,000 years ago (as an example), out of thin air, and it was proven to them otherwise, then for them to have to accept the evidence would shake the very foundations of their belief system, and they would have to go through years of soul searching to find where they want to be in life. For someone who is already set in their ways and think they are going to heaven or whatever afterlife awaits them (with 50 virgins or what-not, or milk and cookies, or whatever they believe it to be), this would cause a vast internal struggle of some subject which they may have already made up their mind about, and if they do accept the facts, would cause them to doubt whether they are going to said afterlife or not.

To sum it up, for some people with heavy beliefs, it is far easier to simply deny the facts then to re-evaluate their beliefs that they have spent years reinforcing and building up, to ensure that they are guaranteed a spot in whatever afterlife they believe in.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: markymoo
when will you see that science is actual truth and fact of reality. its how it is. religion is just a belief system put in place by man like was said to keep everybody in place.

If you think religion and superstition is only about control, you're ignorant and haven't thought this through very well. Religion may be used to control people, but that is far from how and why it came about.

We must of evolved with the earth because the simple fact is fruits and vegetables are good for us. we should of stuck to those but we got greedy and moved onto meat.

Same thing here. If you think we evolved to eat meat for "greed" you are woefully ignorant and haven't even bothered to study the issue.

Here is a hint: Instead of basing your opinions on such things based solely on your reactions to them, why not actually study the issues?

Conclusions based on knee-jerk reactions are no better than the myths and superstitions you view with such contempt. All you have done is replace one set of myths with your own ignorance.

 

[engineereeyore]

Originally posted by: markymoo
when will you see that science is actual truth and fact of reality. its how it is. religion is just a belief system put in place by man like was said to keep everybody in place.

Science is far from uncontroversial truth. Why? Because our understanding of science is always changing. That doesn't mean science is wrong, bad, or anything else. I'm an electrical engineer. I use science everyday. However, I would never be so ignorant as to believe that what we know about everything today is exactly as it really is.

Plus, even if you have a problem with religion as far as "where did God come from", tell me this. Where did the atoms and molecules come from that were involved in the Big Bang? Regardless of whether you accept a God-oriented beginning or not, you still have the same question. Where did it all come from? So don't even try to pretend that science somehow bypasses this question.

 

[Zysoclaplem]

I'm not arguing against or for God, but you are coming to a conclusion based solely on what you perceive the truth to be.
Just because something is true here on earth, in our time and dimension, does not necessarily make it the absolute truth.
Why can't something just exist? Well only because we cannot comprehend that. That's no answer. We don't have the answers. We have the questions.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I'm not arguing against or for God, but you are coming to a conclusion based solely on what you perceive the truth to be.

Exactly. He is merely replacing one set of myths and superstitions with his own.

 

[Mo0o]

You should read Kundt if you think everything we know now in science must be "the truth." All you can say is that the current data fits our current theories

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
You should read Kundt if you think everything we know now in science must be "the truth." All you can say is that the current data fits our current theories

Heh, reminds me of Indiana Jones' "truth vs facts" speech.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: markymoo
who created God?

i could tell you, but i don't think you really want to know

 

[blackllotus]

Originally posted by: markymoo
when will you see that science is actual truth and fact of reality.

Science seeks to find the truth about the natural world. To claim that we know the truth now would be just as ridiculous as Gallileo or Newton claiming that they knew the truth centuries ago.