Hundreds of former DOJ prosecutors say Trump would have been indited if not the Pres.

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kage69

Lifer
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Oh c'mon guys, it's case closed and time to move on! Obstruction of justice only counts if a Democrat does it. When a republican does it 10 times it's just a conspiracy theory. Ol Turtle boy wants to get back to corrupting courts.

Warren with hot mug of Do Your Fuckin Job
 

Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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If it weren't that it's hurting the US, this would be a fascinating situation... a President who's really only a free man because of his office. He's basically living on borrowed time, and his success in 2020 determines how soon he goes to prison.

And what's funny/sad is that Trump clearly didn't stop to think that running for and becoming President would put his longstanding criminal behavior under the microscope, that it would increase the chances of facing prison time. Then again, he has always assumed he could get away with whatever he wants to do, so that's not completely surprising.
And he would be right.
Gaze upon this dumpster fire and lay witness to how not only will he not suffer the consequences of this damning report, but turn it instead to his advantage. His campaign coffers are already being filled by the Conservative base that not only refuse to believe the damning parts to the report, but believe instead that it actually exonerates him.
 
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700 lawyers saying the President should have been indicted sounds like an attempt at a coup and illegitimate take down of the great orange one's ego.

Easy for a despicable to disarm this.


700 lawyers that should be on the bottom of the Ocean.
 

Cozarkian

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700 lawyers saying the President should have been indicted sounds like an attempt at a coup and illegitimate take down of the great orange one's ego.

It's not 700 lawyers saying he should have been indicted, it's 700 saying he would have been indicted if he wasn't President. I do think it is a reasonable inference that it is also 700 lawyers telling Congress to impeach him.
 

Commodus

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Oct 9, 2004
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That piece is starting to sound like Hamilton's Farmer Refuted... that is, an influential work that could shape the political discourse. Not to say it's definitively on that scope, but it's growing in stature.
 

dank69

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For me this is why you differ with dank. You can credit this possibility whereas his anger is so great he won't a accept any alternative to that they are just motivated by voluntary evil. I don't think he is willing to give them any kind of pass for the fact they were put into a nightmarish sleep.
I have never said, nor implied that conservatives are motivated by evil, voluntary or otherwise. I am fully aware they were put into a nightmarish sleep. I am discussing what, if anything, could possibly be done to snap them out of it.
 

dank69

Lifer
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I think it could absolutely happen and that’s why we need to fight against these people.
These people don't even like Republicans. They are voting purely against Democrats. How do you fight that mentality?
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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700 lawyers saying the President should have been indicted sounds like an attempt at a coup and illegitimate take down of the great orange one's ego.

Not just lawyers but rather former federal prosecutors. They probably reached their conclusion by actually reading the report rather than letting Barr spin it for them.
 

Moonbeam

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I have never said, nor implied that conservatives are motivated by evil, voluntary or otherwise. I am fully aware they were put into a nightmarish sleep. I am discussing what, if anything, could possibly be done to snap them out of it.
Imagine for a moment that you weren't actually aware of why you want them to sink in their own shit along with the rest of us. How might I, then, snap you out of such denial? Fskimo has been quite reasonable in explaining what is wrong with your thinking but seems to have gotten nowhere.
 

DarthKyrie

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Imagine for a moment that you weren't actually aware of why you want them to sink in their own shit along with the rest of us. How might I, then, snap you out of such denial? Fskimo has been quite reasonable in explaining what is wrong with your thinking but seems to have gotten nowhere.

I think I might be able to answer for dank on this because he and I have reached the same conclusion with regards to some of our fellow countrymen. There is a certain percentage of people in this country that would rather watch the world burn than vote to improve the lives of themselves and their fellow countrymen. These same people will blame everybody else for forcing them to vote the way they vote because the other choice on the ballot had a D next to their name.
 
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dank69

Lifer
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Imagine for a moment that you weren't actually aware of why you want them to sink in their own shit along with the rest of us. How might I, then, snap you out of such denial? Fskimo has been quite reasonable in explaining what is wrong with your thinking but seems to have gotten nowhere.
I am simply discussing hypotheticals so it seems strange to me that you would claim anyone is "wrong" about a hypothetical outcome from a hypothetical course of action. Perhaps you mean morally wrong, but even there I think we are in a charcoal gray area. You also misunderstand my actual position. I don't want anyone to sink in their own shit. What I want is rainbows and unicorns for everyone. The actual problem as I see it is that the more we fight, as Fskimo recommends, the more they fight back. I wonder, for example, what the world would be like today if Democrats from 1976-2008 adopted the exact opposite of the positions they thought were correct, except for maybe gerrymandering stuff. Would the GOP have reflexively adopted all the right positions? Could the Democrats have then intentionally sabotaged their own efforts to implement shit policy and complain about evil socialism while the GOP rammed single-payer healthcare down our throat in order to collect those sweet liberal tears? As you can see from my ramblings, I am honestly out of ideas. I just wonder if we are making things worse by fighting, because that definitely seems to be the case.
 
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SMOGZINN

Lifer
Jun 17, 2005
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Would the GOP have reflexively adopted all the right positions?

History shows that they would have gone even further. The current state of the GOP is at least partially a reaction to the Democrats becoming more conservative. As the Democrat and Republican platforms started to resemble each other in the mid to late 90's the Republicans wanted to distinguish themselves and did so by adopting even more extreme policies.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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My feels don't have anything to do with it. LOL.

A Former DOJ cannot bring charges against Trump.

I wish the Dems would get off their collective asses and impeach him already.

They're stating facts from their experience based on evidence presented. Your feels are really getting in your way.
 

thilanliyan

Lifer
Jun 21, 2005
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I just wonder if we are making things worse by fighting, because that definitely seems to be the case.
I honestly think that some people (more on the GOP) don't give a damn about policy, and vote purely for party. If people are not willing to actually listen to policies and vote accordingly there isn't a lot that can be done. IMO this team game has been ingrained by propaganda and it will take a long time to get over UNLESS the country really goes to the crapper as you suggest...that might snap people out of it more quickly. The general populace do need to take responsibility for their own situations and this includes voting for people who don't just pay lip service to the "middle class"...at this point in time it means for the general populace the Repubs are NOT your friends!
 

umbrella39

Lifer
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I'm pretty sure most republicans stopped voting for republicans a few years ago.

Most are simply voting against democrats now. They will vote for a republican that will assure their mother's and father's are relegated to their basements where they will have to support them by feeding them cat food until they die just to piss of 1 random democrat somewhere in the universe... week finger snapping thanos wanabees...
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
Jun 17, 2005
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The general populace do need to take responsibility for their own situations

I challenge you to find one point in American history that this has ever happened. Some individuals might take responsibility for their actions, but as a population is it impossible.
 
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