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brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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I wish the Dems would get off their collective asses and impeach him already.

Honest question for you:

Why should the Dems impeach him if there is no support from the GOP to either impeach in the house or convict him in the Senate?

Putting this solely on the Democrats is just wrong, at least some members of the GOP need to step up to the plate as well. Impeachment is a political solution and should have at least some support from both parties since it is such a drastic step under our system of government.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Honest question for you:

Why should the Dems impeach him if there is no support from the GOP to either impeach in the house or convict him in the Senate?

Putting this solely on the Democrats is just wrong, at least some members of the GOP need to step up to the plate as well. Impeachment is a political solution and should have at least some support from both parties since it is such a drastic step under our system of government.

Sorry, but Republicans will never step up to the plate and take responsibility either for their faults, or to stop any sort of international threat that doesn't stand to benefit them in any way. This is their MO, and there is no other program in their brains that allows them to deviate from this path.

If there was ever a time for Republicans to take any kind of responsibility in defending this country from direct attack, it would be when Mitch refused to work with Obama in addressing the threat from Russian cyber terrorism. Obviously there are many reprehensible acts of treason against this country, over the last 4 and 5 decades that we can easily attribute to the GOP, but they sure do seem to be piling up more an more frequently as the party descends into full batshit insanity.
 
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Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
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He wants them to vote for impeachment in the House so when it fails in the Senate he can claim victory and Trump is absolved of all wrongdoing. Nothing more.
Impeached in the House is still impeached, even if the Senate doesn't vote to convict.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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Sorry, but Republicans will never step up to the plate and take responsibility either for their faults, or to stop any sort of international threat that doesn't stand to benefit them in any way. This is their MO, and there is no other program in their brains that allows them to deviate from this path.

If there was ever a time for Republicans to take any kind of responsibility in defending this country from direct attack, it would be when Mitch refused to work with Obama in addressing the threat from Russian cyber terrorism. Obviously there are many reprehensible acts of treason against this country, over the last 4 and 5 decades that we can easily attribute to the GOP, but they sure do seem to be piling up more an more frequently as the party descends into full batshit insanity.

It's Dems fault for being mean and not stopping them. So yea, fuck your feels
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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I challenge you to find one point in American history that this has ever happened. Some individuals might take responsibility for their actions, but as a population is it impossible.
Indeed. Humanity is asleep. Only the individual can awaken. People who are asleep are asleep for a reason but can't be held accountable for anything. There can be no guilt because there is no sin. Our options were to break or die as children. To heal is to morn our own psychic surrender to feel again with the strength and protection afforded by our now adult independence, all that old pain of helplessness. But to proceed down that path of self awareness requires some dawning realization of the true nature of our dilemma, what it is we really fear, that what we feel and don't know we feel is really only lies we had to buy into to survive.
 

drifter106

Golden Member
Mar 14, 2004
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Impeached in the House is still impeached, even if the Senate doesn't vote to convict.

Similar to Clinton eh?
Thing is he was actually impeached by the House...died in the Senate. The party of Evil are smart enough to know that impeachment is a no go for Trump.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Similar to Clinton eh?
Thing is he was actually impeached by the House...died in the Senate. The party of Evil are smart enough to know that impeachment is a no go for Trump.

It's remarkable that you have the temerity to tell Dems what we think. You obviously don't have the vaguest idea other than what a constellation of right wing sources have told you. If Dems impeach Trump it will be because we have a Constitutional duty & a moral imperative to do so. If Senate Repubs see it otherwise they'll need to say so & own it.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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He wants them to vote for impeachment in the House so when it fails in the Senate he can claim victory and Trump is absolved of all wrongdoing. Nothing more.


And you know this How?

I'm ready for the nutless democrats to impeach the President now and have the Senate follow through. Then MAYBE they will be satisfied with President Pence. Then we can move on and stop all the right vs left bickering. And yes I'm saying it, Both Sides are guilty as hell.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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They're stating facts from their experience based on evidence presented. Your feels are really getting in your way.


They are stating OPINIONS based on the evidence presented...

My feels are fine and have nothing to do with it.
 

drifter106

Golden Member
Mar 14, 2004
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It's remarkable that you have the temerity to tell Dems what we think. You obviously don't have the vaguest idea other than what a constellation of right wing sources have told you. If Dems impeach Trump it will be because we have a Constitutional duty & a moral imperative to do so. If Senate Repubs see it otherwise they'll need to say so & own it.

Not telling the members of the Party of Evil what to do....all a person needs to do is watch and listen to them. Watching and listening is how a human learns...not by spurting words that are nonsense and illogical. What the party of Evil is showing is that their hatred for Trump is so deep they will go to any extreme to harrass the duly elected President. Even one of the Evil's own (Rep Green from Texas) is concerned that if they don't impeach Trump he may win in 2020.

Now why is he worried????? Because the American voters will not give the needed votes to the candidate that represents the party of Evil...thus Trump wins second term. Those who are in the party of Evil will have a really hard time sucking that one down!!!

https://preview.msn.com/en-us/news/...ack-at-rep-al-green-on-impeachment/ar-AAAYDQw
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Honest question for you:

Why should the Dems impeach him if there is no support from the GOP to either impeach in the house or convict him in the Senate?

Putting this solely on the Democrats is just wrong, at least some members of the GOP need to step up to the plate as well. Impeachment is a political solution and should have at least some support from both parties since it is such a drastic step under our system of government.

Honest answer for you:

They should do it because if they really feel like they say they do it is their job to impeach. Period.

After that is done then the Senate needs to do it job... The house shouldn't predicate its responsibility based on what the Senate may or may not do.
 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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Honest answer for you:

They should do it because if they really feel like they say they do it is their job to impeach. Period.

After that is done then the Senate needs to do it job... The house shouldn't predicate its responsibility based on what the Senate may or may not do.

We've gone from Congress's job is to govern, the President job is to protect & defend the constitution to their job is to make people miserable while getting rich and serving the top 1%.

Correct me if I'm wrong/ lying.
 
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ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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They are stating OPINIONS based on the evidence presented...

My feels are fine and have nothing to do with it.

Yea right, lol. This is how it would go if he weren't the president....

Nice try though, lol jk.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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And you know this How?

I'm ready for the nutless democrats to impeach the President now and have the Senate follow through. Then MAYBE they will be satisfied with President Pence. Then we can move on and stop all the right vs left bickering. And yes I'm saying it, Both Sides are guilty as hell.

just what the shit are you talking about? Guilty as hell for what?
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Not telling the members of the Party of Evil what to do....all a person needs to do is watch and listen to them. Watching and listening is how a human learns...not by spurting words that are nonsense and illogical. What the party of Evil is showing is that their hatred for Trump is so deep they will go to any extreme to harrass the duly elected President. Even one of the Evil's own (Rep Green from Texas) is concerned that if they don't impeach Trump he may win in 2020.

Now why is he worried????? Because the American voters will not give the needed votes to the candidate that represents the party of Evil...thus Trump wins second term. Those who are in the party of Evil will have a really hard time sucking that one down!!!

https://preview.msn.com/en-us/news/...ack-at-rep-al-green-on-impeachment/ar-AAAYDQw

That's highly irrational & deeply nonsensical. Trump must answer to Congress for the evidence of obstruction brought by the Special Counsel. Barr has no right to withhold anything from them. There is nobody else to hold him accountable. He can plead his case in trial by the Senate.

To describe that as evil is a mind fucked kind of twisted.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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They are stating OPINIONS based on the evidence presented...

please stop with this 8 year-old playground nonsense. Adults don't speak this way. It really isn't a good look.

It's just an opinion! My opinion is just an opinion! Facts are not facts because it's always opinion! My opinion is great and valid because that expert just as their own opinions! I'm a dirt farmer but I have opinions just as great about designing rockets as that rocket engineer does! Opinions are opinions! I can say anything because I called it an opinion! hahahahhaha I AM SO SMART.

Really man--this is just fucking dumb. Grow up. Do people just laugh at you when you get into this mode?
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Honest answer for you:

They should do it because if they really feel like they say they do it is their job to impeach. Period.

After that is done then the Senate needs to do it job... The house shouldn't predicate its responsibility based on what the Senate may or may not do.

I agree. Taking the Constitutional & moral high ground can't be wrong. I think we can agree that's what Dems would be doing with impeachment.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
37,995
18,344
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please stop with this 8 year-old playground nonsense. Adults don't speak this way. It really isn't a good look.

It's just an opinion! My opinion is just an opinion! Facts are not facts because it's always opinion! My opinion is great and valid because that expert just as their own opinions! I'm a dirt farmer but I have opinions just as great about designing rockets as that rocket engineer does! Opinions are opinions! I can say anything because I called it an opinion! hahahahhaha I AM SO SMART.

Really man--this is just fucking dumb. Grow up. Do people just laugh at you when you get into this mode?

It's mildly amusing to observe conservatives try to defend their alt-fact toting elected officials. I'm still not convinced republicans realize what they've done.
 
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pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
21,512
4,607
136
please stop with this 8 year-old playground nonsense. Adults don't speak this way. It really isn't a good look.

It's just an opinion! My opinion is just an opinion! Facts are not facts because it's always opinion! My opinion is great and valid because that expert just as their own opinions! I'm a dirt farmer but I have opinions just as great about designing rockets as that rocket engineer does! Opinions are opinions! I can say anything because I called it an opinion! hahahahhaha I AM SO SMART.

Really man--this is just fucking dumb. Grow up. Do people just laugh at you when you get into this mode?

No, but I'm laughing at your rant.
 
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