This is false. What the NYT said was that the contents could not be verified, which any sane person still knows to be true. Each individual email must be independently verified.
It is funny how a laptop was dropped off by an unidentified person to a blind computer repairman 2,500 miles away from where Hunter Biden lives and conservatives see no reason to be skeptical about its contents. (This is because they don’t care of the contents are real)
Are you trying to argue because the Times verified some emails on the laptop that all of its contents are genuine? I hope you realize that a very common disinformation technique is to intersperse fake documents with real ones for precisely this reason.Time article from last week...
Those emails were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop. The email and others in the cache were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation.Hunter Biden Paid Tax Bill, but Broad Federal Investigation Continues (Published 2022)
The Justice Department inquiry into the business dealings of the president’s son has remained active, with a grand jury seeking information about payments from around the world.www.nytimes.com
I sincerely doubt he is being paid. Think about your crazy uncle at thanksgiving. He’s not being paid to spout all this crazy shit, he will happily do it for free.
As much as I like to see liars eat shit, government intervention is a bad idea, because the the government also gets to decide what is or isn't a lie and bad people will take advantage of that to fuck everyone that gets in their way.When our government officials and/or news and information outlets are proven to be intentionally and deliberately lying there should be severe penalties. I don't know how that should work but there must be some way to stop this shit.
We have absolutely no faith in anything we hear from any politician or any "news" outlet. They have all been exposed for deliberately spreading misinformation and propaganda at one time or another. How do we make informed decisions when all information is biased at best or more likely outright lies?
Are you trying to argue because the Times verified some emails on the laptop that all of its contents are genuine? I hope you realize that a very common disinformation technique is to intersperse fake documents with real ones for precisely this reason.
Any person who does not view broken laptops dropped off by unidentified persons at a blind repairman’s shop skeptically is engaging in motivated reasoning.
The times did the right thing and should be applauded for it. It’s how a responsible news organization is run. We both know the Post is not a responsible news organization and is a money sink for Rupert Murdoch to inject right wing opinion into NYC though, which explains their actions here. The Post is to be condemned and the Times to be praised, not the other way around.
Like I said, If it's not true, there should be severe penalties for making this kind of accusation. If there's evidence, let's see it.
Notice how these GOP tools like this RY clown and that "Gill" id10t who was spam/trolling the Covid thread in OT for so long seem to always post from an older account but with very few posts?
As I've said previously.... nothing suspect about it at all!
These are either hijacked accounts or paid "influencers". (ie: schills)
It’s crazy that you appear to treat them all as equally truthful.Is it really crazy to say that I expect truth from our news outlets and from our elected officials?
I honestly don't know but don't you think it's time we try to do something or do you not see it as a problem?What law would hand out those penalties?
When our government officials and/or news and information outlets are proven to be intentionally and deliberately lying there should be severe penalties. I don't know how that should work but there must be some way to stop this shit.
We have absolutely no faith in anything we hear from any politician or any "news" outlet. They have all been exposed for deliberately spreading misinformation and propaganda at one time or another. How do we make informed decisions when all information is biased at best or more likely outright lies?
Anyone care to go through this troll’s posts from 2015-2020 to show how much a hypocrite he is?I agree that it should be viewed with skepticism but also believe that we should not outright reject information that we dislike or that which doesn't help our chosen team.
Actually, I don't accept any news source as truthful; they've all proven otherwise. I read and watch all of them and do my best to try and piece together as much truth as I can. Sad that it has to be that way.It’s crazy that you appear to treat them all as equally truthful.
I honestly don't know but don't you think it's time we try to do something or do you not see it as a problem?
Yep, you got me bud. I get paid big to post little.
After seeing all of the intellectual value you've added to the forums I at least now know better than to try and engage with you. You're definitely on a level that's out of my league.
Which is laughably ironic since you didn’t pull these accusations from your ass which means you got them from somewhere. The ironic part is that you got your information from sources that actually distribute and create misinformation and propaganda.
The sad part is that you seem completely unaware of it.
You don’t know? And yet you expect something to be done about it using some mythical magic law you believe exists or should exist? So you are relying on something non existent to protect you from propaganda and misinformation while relying on sources that provide propaganda and misinformation while claiming all other sources are corrupt?
That’s quite the protective bubble you’ve built for yourself don’t you think?
Can you elaborate on "these accusations"?
Actually, I don't accept any news source as truthful
Can you elaborate on "these accusations"?
All laws were mythical until they weren't
Right, so if any actual evidence arises we should address it. No such evidence has arisen though, agree?Here we go again... You already know I'm not trying to make that argument. I said from the start - I don't know if there's actually any damning information on the laptop but stories like this make me think that there should be some serious investigations to remove all doubt. If it's not true, there should be severe penalties for making this kind of accusation.
I agree that it should be viewed with skepticism but also believe that we should not outright reject information that we dislike or that which doesn't help our chosen team.
I'm sorry but the only accusations I recall making were that our "news" sources are known to lie. I presented an article where the Post is making an accusation and stated that, if a "news" outlet is making an accusation of this severity that should, in my opinion, be investigated.No. You should be able to though, since you are the one calling for investigations in to them.
All laws were mythical until they weren't. I am not now relying on something non existent. I'm simply stating that something should exist to protect us all from the deliberate lies. If the NYP are making these accusations while knowing that they are false I do think they should be penalized.
The whole complaint is that there is no protective bubble and there actually should be protection from deliberate lies and misinformation. Sometimes people just get it wrong. When we do, we should admit it and attempt to do better. But, for when there is intent to deceive I think it should not go unpunished.
I can't believe I'm actually having to argue in defense of honesty.
Right, so if any actual evidence arises we should address it. No such evidence has arisen though, agree?
Unfortunately and I mean this with no ill intent, you have fallen for misinformation and are now actively disseminating it. The goal of misinformation and propaganda is not for you to believe things that aren’t true, the goal is for people to stop believing anything at all and throw your hands up in disgust.
The fact that you think all news organizations are corrupt or misleading is the red flag, you’ve already succumbed to it.
Of course I don’t expect you to believe random people on the internet (even if their intentions are good or come off as mean), so the question then becomes, what are you going to do about it?
If throwing your hands up plays into those who spread misinformation and propaganda then the opposite would be to be even more diligent in finding trust worthy sources. Consuming lots of different media doesn’t help if half of them are garbage.