Hunting Hitler on History

[Charmonium]

reason to doubt Hitler shot himself.

And if instead of speaking from old info, if you took a look recently. Then you would know the show is based on declassified FBI files. They were highly doubtful he died in the bunker. And they attempted to track him down. Stalin was not buyin it either. I have read some behavioral experts have stated suicide would be inconsistent with his psychological profile. And no one looks for you if they think you are already dead.

There is evidence every bit as concrete as what we have to say he is dead, that says dopple gangers went to a special school to learn to be Hitler, and had cosmetic surgery and/or prosthetics to increase their likeness. It is likely Hitler would use those same methods to help him escape and go unrecognized. Eye witness testimony is notoriously suspect, and that is at this time, the best evidence he is dead. That is the basis of this show. That the FBI was trying to track him, and no hard physical evidence exist to prove he is dead. The most concrete piece has in fact, thrown his death into greater doubt, since the DNA is from a female.

I have no idea if he survived and escaped. But unlike before the FBI declassified docs, and dna testing of the skull fragment, there is now good reason to doubt the official story.

Eye witnesses had to be hard core Nazis if they were in the bunker with Hitler so they would say whatever he wanted them to say. There's also the doppleganger issue as well.

It's easy to look at something like this and say, 'it's all fake and it's just for the ratings.' And no doubt good ratings are important. But if 30 years ago someone told you that the CIA was responsible for the crack, heroin, etc flowing into Southern California, you'd have thought that was bs too. Or if someone told you that the ATF was selling guns to Mexican cartels.

Sometimes truth really is stranger than fiction. What distinguishes the two is being able to provide at least some hard evidence to support your theory and they have definitely done that.

 

[KMFJD]

Do you guys wear a tinfoil hat while watching this show? Smh

 

[BUTCH1]

Eye witnesses had to be hard core Nazis if they were in the bunker with Hitler so they would say whatever he wanted them to say. There's also the doppleganger issue as well.

It's easy to look at something like this and say, 'it's all fake and it's just for the ratings.' And no doubt good ratings are important. But if 30 years ago someone told you that the CIA was responsible for the crack, heroin, etc flowing into Southern California, you'd have thought that was bs too. Or if someone told you that the ATF was selling guns to Mexican cartels.

Sometimes truth really is stranger than fiction. What distinguishes the two is being able to provide at least some hard evidence to support your theory and they have definitely done that.

So are we now supposed to believe the CIA is really a drug-cartel disguised as a governmental agency?

 

[zinfamous]

Do you guys wear a tinfoil hat while watching this show? Smh

Have you watched it?

It's actually quite legit. The CIA, FBI, MI5, Mickey Mouse, etc were all spending serious resources tracking Hitler well after WWII.

The guy spearheading this project has serious creds. This isn't history channels katztentoupaodapouluses alien guy or anything like that.

 

[zinfamous]

There was still radar. Even if the US wasn't in Berlin, I think someone would have noticed a small fleet of planes. This makes the sub thing more likely, but goes back to my previous point, how could he going from being supremely famous and noticed to everyone thinking he was dead. Also, wouldn't he have tried to do the same thing again?

He wasn't; and he it seems that he likely was trying to rebuild. The same profiles that argue he was never the type to kill himself suggest, for the same reason, that he would never be the type to fade into oblivion so easily.

You know that Argentina, Brazil, and Colombia--but especially Argentina--harbored a very solid pre-WW2 german ex-patriot community, and certainly many high-ranking Nazis during and long after the war.

This is, in fact, where most of them fled and were captured.

This investigation both tracks the potential that he could have escaped, including a very likely, very feasible route (Again, all of this using CIA/FBI intelligence reports), and ties that into what he would have been doing in these various places, who he was meeting and what he would have been planning.

Because he wasn't just going into hiding, he was planning the 4th Reich. If he did make it Argentina then it was certainly the only place in the world that he could have consolidated his power base again.

The one issue with the show is that, while the suspect evidence about his death in the bunker mostly relies on eye witnesses, so does the reporting used in this investigation.

However, the most promising leads are corroborated on the ground through history, property ownership, and even a few surviving locals that attest to being in the room with Hitler, of all things.

These aren't amateur wacko people in this show and it is very, very compelling. Certainly worth your attention.

I'm not one to believe in any sort of conspiracy theory. And I do know a few things: the case of Oswald being the loan gunmen that killed JFK is open and shut. The evidence that Hitler died in the bunker was never solid, and never verified by any independent agency outside of the Russian soldiers that whisked away those bones, never to allow any investigation into them.

 

[Charmonium]

So are we now supposed to believe the CIA is really a drug-cartel disguised as a governmental agency?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking

 

[zinfamous]

The Russians were part of the Allied Forces.

And it really is not about having tons of AA weapons around Berlin, it is about some civilian planes randomly and casually flying around Berlin during the middle of one of the largest battles in history, given how many troops would have seen them, nevermind the huge distance needed to fly between Berlin and Spain without getting noticed or shot down.

And yet it is known that a specific squad of some two dozen planes flew out of that airport about 2 days before the Russians captured it. Also found in the same intelligence files, is information that one of those planes was loaded down with Hitler's personal affects.

Of course you don't try to fly 1 or 2 planes out of a surrounded city if you are trying to smuggle a VIP.

 

[OutHouse]

Do you guys wear a tinfoil hat while watching this show? Smh

so in your ingnorant world the FBI agents who wrote those reports were whack jobs???

 

[zinfamous]

So are we now supposed to believe the CIA is really a drug-cartel disguised as a governmental agency?

No, but they have certainly dabbled in drug trafficking.

This is a matter of record.

 

[Brian Stirling]

When we got there the bodies were gone so any info we have is second hand at best. We may not like the story about the Russians wisking away the body but we didn't get there first so...

If you ask me ALL of this nonsense is speculation about an event and a person of infamy and we didn't have control over the situation so we chose to not accept the idea that someone else, ie the Russians, have control over the story.

Could Hitler have escaped and become a lesbian nun in Argentina -- sure, that's as plausible as any other wild ass guess.

This is a History channel story about aliens without the aliens.


Brian

 

[KMFJD]

so in your ingnorant world the FBI agents who wrote those reports were whack jobs???

My ignorant world? While I have no doubts that people did escape/fly out of Berlin during the last few days of the war, Hitler was not one of them. The man that kept ordering no retreat and then retreated himself? he was a mental wreck in his last weeks.

 

[MongGrel]

Have you watched it?

It's actually quite legit. The CIA, FBI, MI5, Mickey Mouse, etc were all spending serious resources tracking Hitler well after WWII.

The guy spearheading this project has serious creds. This isn't history channels katztentoupaodapouluses alien guy or anything like that.

Hey, it is pretty amazing how many Federal tax dollars are spent on lame things so people can hang out and party while not doing much in general "Spying".

It has only gotten more crazy along those lines over time.

The amount of money spent on "Big Brother" is pretty ridiculous in general compared to what other things are neglected these days.

 

[Rudee]

Have you watched it?

It's actually quite legit. The CIA, FBI, MI5, Mickey Mouse, etc were all spending serious resources tracking Hitler well after WWII.

They weren't tracking Hitler, he was dead. And this Hunting Hitler show is cheesy, with the overdone camera angles and staged scenes. Right up there with the other trash programs on History Channel, such as Ancient Aliens and 'Bigfoot Captured'.

 

[JEDIYoda]

My ignorant world? While I have no doubts that people did escape/fly out of Berlin during the last few days of the war, Hitler was not one of them. The man that kept ordering no retreat and then retreated himself? he was a mental wreck in his last weeks.

YES!! Your ignorant world! Confirmed by your response and lack of historical knowledge!

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Because he wasn't just going into hiding, he was planning the 4th Reich. If he did make it Argentina then it was certainly the only place in the world that he could have consolidated his power base again.

Is there evidence of this part? Mengele and Eichmann both seemed to live pretty cozy lives in Argentina, and usually I only hear "the 4th Reich" in silly movies/video games or on Stormfront.

 

[KMFJD]

YES!! Your ignorant world! Confirmed by your response and lack of historical knowledge!

Why so bitter?

 

[Charmonium]

The show is back for a second season and it looks really good. For me, the highlight was following up on the house in the jungle outside of Misiones. You have what amounts to a bunker with 4ft thick walls and more than 4000 German artifacts. But they also start the program with a picture of Hitler as an old man in Misiones but that's just a teaser since they only show some of the analysis they're going to do on it.

 

[HansLanda]

I finished watching Season 2 and in episode 8 there is a watchtower overlooking the colony. On the digital map they show the position of the watchtower https://www.google.hu/maps/@-36.3776243,-71.5772907,877m/data=!3m1!1e3? miles off from it's real position.... WHY??? to make it look closer to the colony. Why would they do this? go check google maps!! REAL position of watchtower: https://www.google.hu/maps/@-36.344756,-71.5919999,439m/data=!3m1!1e3?

 

[zinfamous]

The watchtower, on the show, already looked miles away from the colony. As they even claimed that it offers a miles-wide view of the entire valley. The idea is that it wasn't there to overlook the colony, but to keep eyes over the entire valley and all possible incursions. These guys were making military weapons and Sarin Gas at this facility, after all.

Anyway, I thought it was a decent season, like the previous. But what I gather from watching through all of these episodes is that none of this is really being "discovered" by the investigators in the program. Everything they find and seek to confirm has been essentially found and confirmed in the intelligence that they have access to. I feel like they have constructed a story and are basically following the worm of intelligence to these various locations to make some drama out of it.

Everyone from CIA, FBI, the Hague and whoever else matters was always convinced that Martin Boorman survived and escaped Berlin, and this evidence looks pretty solid. Intelligence pretty much knew his alias and his family. Putting his daughter on the screen was rather compelling.

My guess is that if this show continues forward, it will basically be a reveal of events already known and confirmed in the documents that they are "Revealing" as a slow trickle from episode to episode. Seeing guys like Boorman "show up" again is chilling and interesting, but again already known. I think the bunkers in Misiones and various compounds with stomach medicine and all that were certainly built for and meant to house Hitler, but that doesn't mean he ever made it out. Obviously the Nazis had long planned for these eventualities and Germans being Germans, efficiently constructed these buildings for their potential need. I think we'll never see anything conclusive about Hitler having escaped, maybe even some further evidence of him having died in Berlin--though it doesn't look like the "Hitler bones" from the bunker are legit.

 

[Thebobo]

Muscle man looks so out of place in this show.

I started watching this show but now I can't as there never seems to be an end to it. If they found anything substantial it would of been in the news. Just like Curse of Oak island and Finding Bigfoot (lol) and all the other shows like them.

 

[zinfamous]

Muscle man looks so out of place in this show.

I started watching this show but now I can't as there never seems to be an end to it. If they found anything substantial it would of been in the news. Just like Curse of Oak island and Finding Bigfoot (lol) and all the other shows like them.

yep. One of the main reasons why I think they are just chasing and dramatizing a trail that has been known and thoroughly investigated for several decades already. Still, it's interesting. I haven't watched Oak island, but it seems to me generations of old codgers chasing snipes at the bottom of some unknown hole because some unverifiable source claimed something so long ago, that the mere longevity of this myth has engendered some false validity to the people that are perpetually duped into it.

I think the Hitler show will end as "non-conclusive but probable," which as I understand it, is what international intelligence has always claimed. I find the trail compelling, and moments where they look at that Berlin avenue and the War Ministry ordering the removal of street lamps, how that was a makeshift air strip, pretty interesting. But that is the type of order that could have been made for various reasons--not just to get Hitler out, but certainly as an evacuation route as the Rooskies closed in.

 

[Charmonium]

I think Supernatural nailed Hitler's escape. He sealed his soul in a horcrux and instructed his followers that it should be uploaded into a blood descendant. Trump is that descendant.

 

[SKORPI0]

I think Supernatural nailed Hitler's escape. He sealed his soul in a horcrux and instructed his followers that it should be uploaded into a blood descendant. Trump is that descendant.

Watched that episode, Jensen Ackles character Dean Winchester says " I killed Hitler".

http://tvline.com/2016/11/10/supernatural-recap-season-12-episode-5-dean-kills-hitler/