Hunting Hitler on History

[duragezic]

Kennedy is probably the least impressive member of the cast. Here, check out their bios, especially the first 3.

http://www.history.com/shows/hunting-hitler/cast

I don't think their backgrounds make any difference to the story but having people with those sort of histories at least lends some credibility to the effort. Of course there are a lot of skilled, intelligent people who believe stupid shit, but at least it's not Billy Bob talking about how he was anally probed by the grays.

Kennedy is an operator. He's actually why I started watching it. He's a UFC fighter and I had heard he was in it so thought I would check it out.

It's a decent show I think.

 

[Fritzo]

I liked when they proved the Pilgrims were actually aliens:

 

[Charmonium]

I like it mainly for the history, which is a refreshing change, it being the Nazi . . . uh, I mean history channel. Even if they don't turn up any new evidence, it's still interesting. And if you like alternate histories, it's a great show to speculate on.

But remember, a lot of the evidence they're using is from the FBI in the years after the war and it looks like they weren't completely convinced of Hitler's death either, since they still seemed to be looking for him and other war criminals. Also, this evidence wasn't declassified until about 6 years ago. I suspect that in the meantime a lot of these leads have already been run down and now they're just re-enacting them for dramatic effect, but still . . .

 

[Accord99]

Wasn't the plane they were talking about a 4 engine Messerschmitt?

I haven't watched the show, though I've setup my DVR to record it. My feeling is that the 4 engine planes were big and generally slow, making it easier to spot and intercept. The 2 engine planes stripped of unnecessary weight would have the range to make it to Spain from Germany.

And were there any radar installations on the continent? I thought it was developed and use by Britain to find German raiding parties and fighters.

I'm sure the Allies had mobile radar that they would use to protect airfields and important sites/HQs but complete coverage wouldn't be possible. A single fast plane with a careful route would have been very hard to detect. And if it was fast enough (like the Arado Ar 234) even if it was spotted it would be almost impossible to catch.

 

[squirrel dog]

all that and using dna to test down to the atomic level . If Hitler had never attacked Russia , and somehow developed at least atomic dirty bombs ,with the V10 raining down all over the planet , we could all be speaking German now . But he died(wherever) a twisted drug idled failed crushed fool .

 

[JDawg1536]

Cheezy show, somewhat entertaining. The three structures in the middle of the jungle were bizarre. I watched two episodes, I'll probably keep watching.

 

[norseamd]

all that and using dna to test down to the atomic level . If Hitler had never attacked Russia , and somehow developed at least atomic dirty bombs ,with the V10 raining down all over the planet , we could all be speaking German now . But he died(wherever) a twisted drug idled failed crushed fool.

I think never getting Franco into the Axis Alliance was a fatal mistake he let go by. He should have defeated Britain and cleared out North Africa and Southwest Asia before even thinking about invading the Soviets.

 

[Rakehellion]

Anyone else watching this? The third episode was this past week and it's pretty interesting. It's based on hundreds of pages of FBI documents that were declassified in 2014. It appears that the FBI was investigating Hitler's movements in Argentina years after the war.

They're still doing shows about history? I'd expect a reality show called Hitler Hunters.

 

[norseamd]

I'm sure the Allies had mobile radar that they would use to protect airfields and important sites/HQs but complete coverage wouldn't be possible. A single fast plane with a careful route would have been very hard to detect. And if it was fast enough (like the Arado Ar 234) even if it was spotted it would be almost impossible to catch.

They could have put up patrols on the Spanish borders long before Hitler could ever reach there. And I doubt the Swiss or Swedes would do anything but hand him right over if he tried to hide out in either of those countries.

 

[norseamd]

They're still doing shows about history? I'd expect a reality show called Hitler Hunters.

No that is the TV show that they have planned after this one. Have to milk everything out first as dry as Tatooine.

 

[Thebobo]

Well one of the things that gives the show credibility over most shows is Bob Bear. He has most to loose compared to the folks who do the other BS shows like aliens this and that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Baer

Robert Booker "Bob" Baer (born July 1, 1952) is an American author and a former CIA case officer who was primarily assigned to the Middle East.[1] He is Time's intelligence columnist[1] and has contributed to Vanity Fair, The Wall Street Journal, and The Washington Post.[2] Baer is a frequent commentator and author about issues related to international relations, espionage and U.S. foreign policy. Currently he is a reality television host on the History Channel's program "Hunting Hitler."[3]

Great interview with Bob Bear about about being in the CIA. Can listen to it or or read the transcript.

BAER: When I tried to an assassinate Saddam Hussein, and I was up there. And there were shells going back and forth, and I was in my REI jacket holding a Kalashnikov watch in the middle of a battle, and then almost getting indicted by the FBI for attempted murder of Saddam Hussein. Then I was really asking myself what am I doing here?

SAGAL: Wait a minute.

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[Carson Dyle]

Cheezy show, somewhat entertaining.

Yeah, I have to admit ... as cheezy as it is, it's been interesting.

 

[88keys]

I just checked out the first few episodes.
It's alright but the History Channel doens't exactly have the best reputation these days and it reminds me an awful lot of Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory in many ways. And... yeah....

 

[IronWing]

I just checked out the first few episodes.
It's alright but the History Channel doens't exactly have the best reputation

Come on, the History Channel spends a good, solid thirty minutes on Wikipedia for every hour of programming (except for the reality shows, the alien shows, the Nostradamus shows, the Noah's Ark shows, and any show involving battles).

 

[Rudee]

Anybody see that documentary on History Channel entitled 'Breaking History: Bigfoot Captured'? If you want to talk about ridiculous, this one took the cake. I wish History Channel didn't air this kind of nonsense.

 

[Charmonium]

Last episode was a mixed bag. There was some good research on the Canary Islands as a way point for subs traveling across the atlantic and south. The facilities were huge and seemed to be designed to service subs. Except Spain didn't have any subs so the tunnels and galleries would have been for German boats.

But the part where they were reconn'ing a villa on a lake was just so stupid it was comical. They're creeping around pretending like they can't get caught on the property when you know that the whole thing was just a cheap stunt that no one is going to buy.

That's a bad sign since it means they don't have enough good material for the whole season so they're milking each "lead" as much as they can.

 

[duragezic]

Last episode was a mixed bag. There was some good research on the Canary Islands as a way point for subs traveling across the atlantic and south. The facilities were huge and seemed to be designed to service subs. Except Spain didn't have any subs so the tunnels and galleries would have been for German boats.

But the part where they were reconn'ing a villa on a lake was just so stupid it was comical. They're creeping around pretending like they can't get caught on the property when you know that the whole thing was just a cheap stunt that no one is going to buy.

That's a bad sign since it means they don't have enough good material for the whole season so they're milking each "lead" as much as they can.

Tim Kennedy operated in that episode.

 

[Charmonium]

Tonight's episode was a little on the thin side but not bad. I don't know that the excavation they did necessarily implied what they thought it did, but it's plausible. They also chased down some interesting leads and talked to one eye witness. There were more quotes from the FBI files which pretty clearly support Hitler being alive and they made a pretty concerted effort to verify one of them - as best as you can after 70 some years. So a lot of stuff that was somewhere between purely circumstantial and factual.

 

[OutHouse]

I liked tonight's show, they are connecting the dots from the fbi files.

 

[Spineshank]

I like the show. Of course its setup in a cheezy way, but they are going off of actual history and facts at least.

 

[Charmonium]

I think tonight's episode was the last for the season. But it was a good one, not great, but good. They may have found part of a plane that carried Hitler to Bogata. And they revealed some more documents indicating that some German physicists had come to Brazil I think it was (Cassino) with plans for a V3 rocket and the next phase of development for a nuke.

So nothing really substantial but some interesting information.,

I'm surprised that they made this season 8 episodes. I think they could have gone at least to 10

 

[clamum]

I was interested in this until I found out it was about searching for Hitler in Argentina. I'm about as interested in that as I am in Moon Landing Hoaxes and a 2-hour special on the 9/11 Truther movement.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I was interested in this until I found out it was about searching for Hitler in Argentina. I'm about as interested in that as I am in Moon Landing Hoaxes and a 2-hour special on the 9/11 Truther movement.

Not just there brudda; they trace him from the tunnels under Berlin all the way to the airport he would have flown out from in the middle of the night. The daredevil lady pilot that likely would have extracted him, was mentioned earlier in the thread. She had successfully gotten others out already.

They take you to Spain where there is some compelling evidence as well. And islands off the coast of... Africa I think? And how they could have U-boated him from there. The Nazi presence in S.A. is a matter of record, and they had quite a few big biz concerns there. Hell, there are towns in the middle of nowhere that speak German as one of their primary languages.

Did Hitler survive and escape? I do not know. But I like Tim - Ranger up! And the show is intriguing to me. Also have learned a bit about some impressive construction e.g. the airport, that I knew nothing about. Or another, how extensive the tunnels under the city are. They could move men and machines completely covertly.

 

[Brian Stirling]

As I remember the story the Russians recovered the bodies and brought them to Russian for examination. Not sure what they were supposed to have done with the bodies after the examination though.

I don't see how someone like Hitler could have disappeared and gone unreported for more than a month let alone decades -- not plausible in my book.

But, like the shows about aliens, people will watch so people will make programming to fill that need -- at least that's what Ancient Alien Theorists say...


Brian

 

[DAPUNISHER]

As I remember the story the Russians recovered the bodies and brought them to Russian for examination. Not sure what they were supposed to have done with the bodies after the examination though.

I don't see how someone like Hitler could have disappeared and gone unreported for more than a month let alone decades -- not plausible in my book.

But, like the shows about aliens, people will watch so people will make programming to fill that need -- at least that's what Ancient Alien Theorists say...


Brian

reason to doubt Hitler shot himself.

And if instead of speaking from old info, if you took a look recently. Then you would know the show is based on declassified FBI files. They were highly doubtful he died in the bunker. And they attempted to track him down. Stalin was not buyin it either. I have read some behavioral experts have stated suicide would be inconsistent with his psychological profile. And no one looks for you if they think you are already dead.

There is evidence every bit as concrete as what we have to say he is dead, that says dopple gangers went to a special school to learn to be Hitler, and had cosmetic surgery and/or prosthetics to increase their likeness. It is likely Hitler would use those same methods to help him escape and go unrecognized. Eye witness testimony is notoriously suspect, and that is at this time, the best evidence he is dead. That is the basis of this show. That the FBI was trying to track him, and no hard physical evidence exist to prove he is dead. The most concrete piece has in fact, thrown his death into greater doubt, since the DNA is from a female.

I have no idea if he survived and escaped. But unlike before the FBI declassified docs, and dna testing of the skull fragment, there is now good reason to doubt the official story.