Hurricane Harvey Heading for Texas...

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Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
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I find it stupid in all of this that we didn't even have voluntary evacuations in place. Our mayor seems to want to amaze us with how stupid he is.

In all fairness, you literally always have a voluntary evacuation in place. You can get virtually the exact same information as the mayor or whoever the hell would call for any type of evacuations.

I've sure as hell never needed anyone else to tell me when to get the hell out of dodge. I've stayed when I was told to go and I have left when I was told not to go. I don't trust a politicians word on what he had for dinner, why in holy hell would I trust him about when I should get my family to safety with a storm that I can see coming?!?
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
Jul 15, 2000
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If you do buy or try to salvage a flood vehicle, expect to repack or replace all the wheel bearings, brake pads or shoes, check if the interior got flooded, disconnect and clean / dry out any electrical connectors that got wet. Water will not get into the engine unless it was running. An oil change would tell you right away. I would not start it until these basics are checked first.
You can do all that, (and those are the right steps) but your problem is going to be corrosion down the road. With today's cars complex electrical systems/multiple computers you WILL get bit in the ass.
 

Svnla

Lifer
Nov 10, 2003
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Just saw on the local news a few minutes ago. A guy with no shirt and blue pants was in a house with water up to his calf. He stalked a fish that was swimming in the kitchen. He dived in and caught the fish with one of his bare hands. Decent size fish too.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
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Just saw on the local news a few minutes ago. A guy with no shirt and blue pants was in a house with water up to his calf. He stalked a fish that was swimming in the kitchen. He dived in and caught the fish with one of his bare hands. Decent size fish too.

When shit hits the fan you don't pass up a meal...
 
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ViRGE

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Oct 9, 1999
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So it might be make or break night for my family and I.

The creek our lake flows into is about 8+ft out of its banks. The weather report is suggesting another 8-10inches is possible tonight. My neighbor who's a volunteer fireman has said they and the police dept expect our lake to go over it's banks tonight.

Now it has drained quite a bit over the last day or so and we didn't flood with 20inches of rain coming down at rates as high as 7in/hr. Tonights rainfall is possibly less than half of that and at slower rates. My side of the lake also appears to be the highest. So will it flood? And if it does will it flood me?

I'm getting tired of this shit.
Cripes. Good luck to you man; fingers crossed over here.
 
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So far so good tonight, I can't for the life of me fall back asleep though. Looks like the storm's eye is continuing to go east before north which should help us out a little... I've always been under the impression that those to the north east of the storm get the worst of it.
 

ViRGE

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Oct 9, 1999
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So far so good tonight, I can't for the life of me fall back asleep though. Looks like the storm's eye is continuing to go east before north which should help us out a little... I've always been under the impression that those to the north east of the storm get the worst of it.
Correct. The NE side of a hurricane is called the "dirty" side for this reason.

Long version: it's actually based on the motion of the storm; since storms rotate anti-clockwise in the northern hemisphere, the worse place to be is on the right side of the storm since the winds are cumulative. The right-front side means the storm is moving towards you, adding its motion to the winds and dragging all of the storm surge with it. Further in the case of the US's geography, you get cases like this where the back side of the storm is over water and the front side is over land, which combined with the anticlockwise rotation means that rain bands that develop over the water on the rear-left and rear-right sides rotate into the front-right side.

Since Harvey is moving away from land right now, it's "dirty" side is technically over the ocean. However the geographic factors mean that of the land areas it's over, the NE side is still the dirty side as far as humans are concerned.
 

vi edit

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Oct 28, 1999
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Read this statement from the weather station:

"“This event is unprecedented & all impacts are unknown & beyond anything experienced,” the National Weather Service posted to its Twitter account early Sunday. “Follow orders from officials to ensure safety.”"

Yikes. Stay safe out there guys. This is madness.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Twitter says the Addicks reservoir is overtopping. Which is bad since the dam here was rated a very high failure risk by the ACOE.
 

Ophir

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I'm all on the climate change acceptance bandwagon, but how do you look at a random hurricane and determine that climate change is the reason for it existing and/or it's power level?

Hurricanes (and ones of this magnitude) are nothing new - and nor is the concept of hurricane season.

The fact that there was a hurricane is normal
The fact that it hit Texas was normal (in fact, it's been quite some time and we were overdue for one)
The fact that it has done so much damage (at least here in Houston) can be 100% attributed to shitty government with a lack of infrastructure development to handle the amount of water.

Powerful hurricanes are nothing new either, see Great Hurricane of 1900: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1900_Galveston_hurricane
Hurricanes are formed and fed by warm water evaporating from the surface of the ocean. This leads to several conclusions:

1)The maximum potential intensity is a function of the surface temp of the water.
2)There is a generally accepted cutoff for water that can support hurricane development, 26.5 °C.

Therefore, as water gets warmer and warmer over time, there will be more water above that 26.5 °C threshold (i.e. more potential hurricanes) and more powerful hurricanes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_cyclone#Physics_and_energetics
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/A16.html
 
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chubbyfatazn

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So it might be make or break night for my family and I.

The creek our lake flows into is about 8+ft out of its banks. The weather report is suggesting another 8-10inches is possible tonight. My neighbor who's a volunteer fireman has said they and the police dept expect our lake to go over it's banks tonight.

Now it has drained quite a bit over the last day or so and we didn't flood with 20inches of rain coming down at rates as high as 7in/hr. Tonights rainfall is possibly less than half of that and at slower rates. My side of the lake also appears to be the highest. So will it flood? And if it does will it flood me?

I'm getting tired of this shit.

So we had 9.58inches Monday. Well above 40inches for this storm.

You guys make it through the night ok?
 

Ajay

Lifer
Jan 8, 2001
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Houston needs to learn from LA when it comes to making a storm drain system:


That a bit better. With the population boom going on in Houston and the increasing amounts of concrete covering formerly open land, they had better start planning now. I realize that there is a limit, but some imminent domain over city properties may be in order b/4 it's just too late.
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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You guys make it through the night ok?

So far. The rain slowed down for us around 3:00 AM and the lake behind our house stopped rising.

(Sorry for the quality. It looks like an impressionist painting, I had to take the pic with my DSLR in manual with manual focus @25600 ISO it was so dark.)


Just noticed - my damn 10k lifer post is going to be about this frakking storm isn't it?
 

mxnerd

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Jul 6, 2007
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It's like tsunami except the water came from sky and water level rose slower.
 
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