Hurricane Irma track change! (for the worse!)

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purbeast0

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I'm now about 99% sure we won't be offshore fishing for dolphin/mahi on Sunday. On the plus side, we might be able to fish for them from the backyard.

All shuttered up here in Ft Lauderdale. Going to bring the rest of our stuff inside today. We have a big playset outside that we will say our goodbyes to today. I assume it will be embedded in a neighbor's house on Sunday.
Here's my take from my trip out of Marathon on Tuesday. Got it home on dry ice then vacuum sealed it yesterday.


We caught probably 25 or so but our take home was 16.
 

Banana

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There's a shortage of commercial mahi, apparently. What's the going price for it? I used to buy it regularly at Trader Joe, but they stopped carrying it.
 

purbeast0

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There's a shortage of commercial mahi, apparently. What's the going price for it? I used to buy it regularly at Trader Joe, but they stopped carrying it.
No clue but the Captain estimated we had around 50-60lbs of it after it was filleted. We flew home with 3 small coolers full and cooked enough for 6 grown men the day we caught it, probably around 5 pounds if I had to guess.

That was my first time fishing in the Keys and it was so much fun when we got on some Mahi. We got on our largest school right at the very end too so it was a great way to end the trip. We probably pulled in like 12-15 in 10-15 minutes. Not all keepers though. It started off pretty slow though.
 

FIVR

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Landfall appears to be anywhere between 10 and 30 miles north of my house. Not good. Hopefully ICF construction is enough to let it survive. Storm surge will be 7-11ft ... which means waves might be hitting the first floor.


I guess the good news is that it's no longer a cat 5.
 

FIVR

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I'm more concerned about storm surge than wind. The house should survive anything under 180mph winds. But the water could still do tons of damage if it gets over 12ft
 

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Landfall appears to be anywhere between 10 and 30 miles north of my house. Not good. Hopefully ICF construction is enough to let it survive. Storm surge will be 7-11ft ... which means waves might be hitting the first floor.


I guess the good news is that it's no longer a cat 5.
So the good news is that you want the storm to be north of you. The north side of the storm is the dirty side, and while the south side is no cake walk, at least the circulation of the storm isn't pushing even more water and wind into you.

The bad news is that the storm is so large - and the eye is so large - that landfall is a zone, not a location. Irma could come ashore that far off and the eyewall may still scrape your house.
 

Darwin333

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Well, a deadman buried every 10' on each side of the house, and some trucking strap they use to hold cargo might keep it in place enough to not lose everything inside the house. It would be interesting to try. The biggest expense would be the strapping. If /I/ were running storm prep in a place like FL, I'd have a test bed of houses with various hacks to keep them together, and see how they make out in a storm. Refine over time as data gets accumulated.

Underwriters Laboratories and FM Global have some pretty state of the art test beds to test just how wind resistant certain structures/materials/techniques are. I actually got to watch them test one of Berridge's new roofing assemblies and it was pretty darn nifty, the tested a "standard" metal roof assembly first and man when it fails it fails spectacularly! The new assembly we were there to test actually withstood the max pressure of the machine which is equal to 150mph winds, I've heard they were debating beefing it up. One camp says there isn't much of a point because beyond those speeds if your structure doesn't fail so many others will that the resulting debris is likely to cause yours to fail anyway, which is a pretty good point. You would have to design something pretty hard core to withstand 160+mph missiles that weigh hundreds of pounds.

BTW, who even thinks of using dead bodies as anchors? Definite bonus points for creativity and building "green" though!
 
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FIVR

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They just updated the track and now the eye is set to literally land directly on my house. LOL.




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Darwin333

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Landfall appears to be anywhere between 10 and 30 miles north of my house. Not good. Hopefully ICF construction is enough to let it survive. Storm surge will be 7-11ft ... which means waves might be hitting the first floor.


I guess the good news is that it's no longer a cat 5.

They are calling for it to be 2mph below a Cat 5 so I'm not sure how good of news that really is. I somehow doubt that the 2mph is the difference between your house standing or failing. Best of luck to you all the same though bud!

Another thing, is it just my or did anyone else think that the storm surge from this beast would be higher at landfall?
 

FIVR

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I'm going to have to fly down there after this to clean this up. After George hit, there was a sea of debris everywhere. Pieces of houses, cars, trees, buildings.... just a sea of garbage and debris. It takes years to clean that stuff up in a place like they keys where 70% of the residents are elderly
 

FIVR

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They are calling for it to be 2mph below a Cat 5 so I'm not sure how good of news that really is. I somehow doubt that the 2mph is the difference between your house standing or failing. Best of luck to you all the same though bud!

Another thing, is it just my or did anyone else think that the storm surge from this beast would be higher at landfall?

It's an ICF concrete house. I checked the photos from when we had it built, and I think it will be OK. However, I still might lose thousands of $ worth of electronics and equipment with the storm surge along with the POS car i leave down there.
 

FIVR

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Ouch... Did your neighbors ever leave?

I let them stay at the house. They're retarded and I told them to leave but they call my house "the fortress" because they saw it under construction and they have nowhere else to go. But don't tell anybody at P&N that.
 
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Darwin333

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I hope you die in a fire and if I am lucky enough to witness it I will not waste a drop of piss to put it out.

His comments are not welcome here and neither are yours. No wishing death on members.
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No, you're right, I was out of line. In all fairness though I only wished death on one person while he wished it on half a million people... How about "I would be happy if you.."?
 

Darwin333

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I let them stay at the house. They're retarded and I told them to leave but they call my house "the fortress" because they saw it under construction and they have nowhere else to go. But don't tell anybody at P&N that.

You finally caved eh? Well that's mighty neighborly of you bud, they definitely owe you a nice steak dinner when you return and maybe if there is any damage they can mitigate it.
 
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Darwin333

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It's an ICF concrete house. I checked the photos from when we had it built, and I think it will be OK. However, I still might lose thousands of $ worth of electronics and equipment with the storm surge along with the POS car i leave down there.

Why can't the neighbors you are letting stay there move it higher up? Put their asses to work! Small price to pay to, you know, not die. Tell them to fill the bathtubs with water before the storm hits, it looks like the recovery is going to take quite a while with it going up the gut. At the very least they can use it to flush the toilets, I'd hope that they had enough food and water to bring with them.

Edit: And tell them to take lots of video of the storm, please!
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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I let them stay at the house. They're retarded and I told them to leave but they call my house "the fortress" because they saw it under construction and they have nowhere else to go. But don't tell anybody at P&N that.
Tell them to earn their keep and load up some bags of sand to surround the house an extra 2', or at least doorways.
 

FIVR

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Tell them to earn their keep and load up some bags of sand to surround the house an extra 2', or at least doorways.


LOL. The average age of these neighbors is like 70. One of them is 95 years old. I'm not gonna be like "GET YOUR ASS OUT THERE GRANDMA AND FILL SOME SANDBAGS THIS IS MY PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT"


The best payment I can hope for is that they don't poop all over my furniture.
 

FIVR

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Why can't the neighbors you are letting stay there move it higher up? Put their asses to work! Small price to pay to, you know, not die. Tell them to fill the bathtubs with water before the storm hits, it looks like the recovery is going to take quite a while with it going up the gut. At the very least they can use it to flush the toilets, I'd hope that they had enough food and water to bring with them.

Edit: And tell them to take lots of video of the storm, please!

They could have evacuated and I told them to. They thought it would miss until yesterday (as did I). They are old florida people who are dumb and old. They don't understand weather.

The house is 3 stories tall so they should be OK unless the storm surge reaches 25ft.
 

Darwin333

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LOL. The average age of these neighbors is like 70. One of them is 95 years old. I'm not gonna be like "GET YOUR ASS OUT THERE GRANDMA AND FILL SOME SANDBAGS THIS IS MY PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT"


The best payment I can hope for is that they don't poop all over my furniture.

Well the 70 year old can at least move some of your electronics higher up! Get to work grandpa!

Besides, they probably have more of an incentive to keep the water out than you do. Living post hurricane sucks bad enough but if you have to live in a house that was flooded and is now growing mold it magnifies the suck factor by many times.
 

Darwin333

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They could have evacuated and I told them to. They thought it would miss until yesterday (as did I). They are old florida people who are dumb and old. They don't understand weather.

The house is 3 stories tall so they should be OK unless the storm surge reaches 25ft.

Oh I know, I recall your earlier posts when they initially asked to stay in your house and you told them hell no, get the fuck out of dodge. I'd still get them to mitigate as much potential loss as possible for you regardless of their age. If they can make it up the stairs to safety then they can do something!
 

Jeeebus

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Here's my take from my trip out of Marathon on Tuesday. Got it home on dry ice then vacuum sealed it yesterday.


We caught probably 25 or so but our take home was 16.

Nice haul. We went out last weekend and got some tuna/dolphin. It gets nuts when you're in a school of dolphin and everyone is running around the boat with a fish on. I don't expect to be back on the water (unless you count the water coming into the house from a missing roof) for a while.

Not looking forward to seeing most/all of my fruit trees gone after this blows through.
 
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