Hurricane Irma track change! (for the worse!)

[highland145]

How the heck those guys expect to sell that metal pole? I know a few people that run recycling/scrap plant and you have to show valid ID for any transaction. Unless you only have a few aluminum cans in a grocery plastic bag.

Same here and you have to get a "permit" even for a one time sale but I don't think the recyclers are too discriminating. Unless the law has changed recently, they can take any car over 10 years old without a title...wut? One of the grand jury cases I was on, thieves stole the copper ground wire off of some utility trucks. $30K in damages. They stripped the wire and left the insulation in their yard. What average Joe is going to have access to copper wire the size of your thumb?

edit: Looks like the law changed in 2012 but still too easy to junk the car, imo.

 

[BUTCH1]

That seems very reasonable, if you can afford it then I'd go ahead and schedule them right now. Just make sure you take lots of pictures, hell I'd even measure the tree.

And I'm a roofer bud, you definitely want to bring that tarp up and over the ridge or else water WILL find a way in. You can simply add another piece of tarp that goes over the ridge and overlaps the existing one by a few feet as long as it covers the full width of the existing tarp. Put a dab of caulk down where you will be driving the nails through the existing tarp (caulk goes under the nail).

OK, cool, yea, I'd noted from you're previous post's that you run a roofing Co so I value your input. Might shoot you a PM or 2 with some more pics when the time comes for the roof repair, (if that's OK with you). The house was re-done in 2002-2003, I'll have to dig out the paperwork, I'd say there's a few years life left on the shingles but that's just an amateur guesstimate of course. We had a storm-related fatality yesterday, one person dead, 2 hospitalized due to carbon monoxide ingestion, they were running a genny inside an apartment!.

 

[Ajay]

OK, cool, yea, I'd noted from you're previous post's that you run a roofing Co so I value your input. Might shoot you a PM or 2 with some more pics when the time comes for the roof repair, (if that's OK with you). The house was re-done in 2002-2003, I'll have to dig out the paperwork, I'd say there's a few years life left on the shingles but that's just an amateur guesstimate of course. We had a storm-related fatality yesterday, one person dead, 2 hospitalized due to carbon monoxide ingestion, they were running a genny inside an apartment!.

Glad you are safe and hope you stay dry. For all the joking, since this is ATOT, you are dealing with serious issues. All the best to you and your loved ones!

 

[BUTCH1]

Glad you are safe and hope you stay dry. For all the joking, since this is ATOT, you are dealing with serious issues. All the best to you and your loved ones!

Thanks, yea, although it's serious damage, the dwelling is still safe to live in and can be repaired, thank God for that. Many have a tree destroy their entire roof and they must then seek housing while awaiting $$ form the insurance Co. Some have their entire house destroyed of the roof fly into the street, hurricane's are scary as all hell, specially one's like Irma that last for 8-12 hours. Gust after gust whips up and shi* starts slamming into your roof, windows left+right, the whole time you wonder if the next one will have your # on it. If your foolish, (like I was), and venture outside, you get a nice light-show of the power grid imploding+sideways pummeling rain. Putting up shutters is a PITA but it paid off as another tree lost it's entire crown and part of it impacted the shutter at the rear, had it not been there the window would have been toast and now you've got hours of hurricane-force wind+rain coming directly into the house.

 

[FIVR]

Found a gif of the before/after damage to the neighborhood surrounding my house (my house is clearly visible top middle). The damage is even worse than I thought.


https://twitter.com/weatherdak/status/908322693937864704

 

[Ajay]

Thanks, yea, although it's serious damage, the dwelling is still safe to live in and can be repaired, thank God for that. Many have a tree destroy their entire roof and they must then seek housing while awaiting $$ form the insurance Co. Some have their entire house destroyed of the roof fly into the street, hurricane's are scary as all hell, specially one's like Irma that last for 8-12 hours. Gust after gust whips up and shi* starts slamming into your roof, windows left+right, the whole time you wonder if the next one will have your # on it. If your foolish, (like I was), and venture outside, you get a nice light-show of the power grid imploding+sideways pummeling rain. Putting up shutters is a PITA but it paid off as another tree lost it's entire crown and part of it impacted the shutter at the rear, had it not been there the window would have been toast and now you've got hours of hurricane-force wind+rain coming directly into the house.

Thank God you were prepared!

 

[Ajay]

Found a gif of the before/after damage to the neighborhood surrounding my house (my house is clearly visible top middle). The damage is even worse than I thought.


https://twitter.com/weatherdak/status/908322693937864704

Holy smokes - your entire neighborhood is gone

 

[highland145]

Holy smokes - your entire neighborhood is gone

boomerang was looking at moving here until he found out his house survived.

whew, that was a close one.

 

[zinfamous]

Found a gif of the before/after damage to the neighborhood surrounding my house (my house is clearly visible top middle). The damage is even worse than I thought.


https://twitter.com/weatherdak/status/908322693937864704

yeah but the media is lying.

 

[Thebobo]

MT

 

[highland145]

yeah but the media is lying.

Well no shit....the crap you watch. Sheesh.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

You're hosting your family, eh? so," evacuees" as you can now call them. You're such a noble soul! You think any of them are evacuating up here to Maryland? Or am I supposed to run down there and buy up some property to host them? What is it that you require of me to be as noble as you are, letting your family stay with you?

LoL, keep threatening "to call me out!" through PM, bro. You started a petty little poo-flinging contest on here in a thread that doesn't need it, and for no reason. The evil media will survive despite your phantom windmills, and real people will continue to work through their actual real life troubles despite your assessment of their phantom troubles.

I'm hosting my family from the Keys, their friends (who are also here), and anyone else they can vouche for.

iow, you're standing aside with absolutely no game in this, didn't go through the storm yourself, and you are trying to dis me?

Fuck off, moron. You don't know squat about this and have ZERO experience with it.

 

[Thebobo]

No idea how they were caught.

So they were caught trying to steal some sort of traffic sign/light pole?

 

[highland145]

I'm hosting my family from the Keys, their friends (who are also here), and anyone else they can vouche for.

iow, you're standing aside with absolutely no game in this, didn't go through the storm yourself, and you are trying to dis me?

Fuck off, moron. You don't know squat about this and have ZERO experience with it.

skin.

So they were caught trying to steal some sort of traffic sign/light pole?

Pretty much.

 

[purbeast0]

Wow @ those before/after pics. In the 2nd one down, the house furthest to the right is like 50 yards back in the woods. Then you have houses in other spots that are just completely gone. There is like 40 feet more beach too.

Wow just insane.

 

[Darwin333]

How the heck those guys expect to sell that metal pole? I know a few people that run recycling/scrap plant and you have to show valid ID for any transaction. Unless you only have a few aluminum cans in a grocery plastic bag.

Like I said earlier, the only way for them to even maybe sell it would be to cut it up into a fuckton of pieces so that it's basically unrecognizable as a utility pole which is a TON of work. They'd probably have to pay more for blades or torch gas than they'd get from the scrap yard but as we have already deduced, they aren't exactly criminal masterminds.

 

[Darwin333]

OK, cool, yea, I'd noted from you're previous post's that you run a roofing Co so I value your input. Might shoot you a PM or 2 with some more pics when the time comes for the roof repair, (if that's OK with you). The house was re-done in 2002-2003, I'll have to dig out the paperwork, I'd say there's a few years life left on the shingles but that's just an amateur guesstimate of course. We had a storm-related fatality yesterday, one person dead, 2 hospitalized due to carbon monoxide ingestion, they were running a genny inside an apartment!.

By all means, feel free to PM me any questions you have. I have well over a decades experience estimating so if you have any questions about your insurance appraisal or roofing companies quote I can help with that too. IF you can, it would be a good idea to put a piece of plywood over the hole so that if it rains the water doesn't pool and break/tear your tarp. Your insurance company MIGHT pay to replace the entire roof depending on a lot of factors. Make sure you ask your adjuster what happens if they can't match the color of the shingles do to your existing ones being weathered and aged.

And yeah, it's a shame but there always seem to be a few fatalities following a big outage from people running gennies inside. I can't believe that people are still that dumb but there are always at least a few.

 

[Darwin333]

Found a gif of the before/after damage to the neighborhood surrounding my house (my house is clearly visible top middle). The damage is even worse than I thought.


https://twitter.com/weatherdak/status/908322693937864704

WOW! That is crazy.

Btw, did you see the reply about your house?

"That dude in the white house, top center, is going to be getting a lot of knocks on his door to find out the builder." LOL

It's not really the builder though, it's the fact that you were willing to pay a high premium to build your house the way you did which sadly most people aren't. How has the ICF effected your electric bill/ac use?

 

[Darwin333]

Wow @ those before/after pics. In the 2nd one down, the house furthest to the right is like 50 yards back in the woods. Then you have houses in other spots that are just completely gone. There is like 40 feet more beach too.

Wow just insane.

Yeah, it's scary stuff. After Katrina I went to two towns, one in the southern little tip of Louisiana and another in Mississippi where most of the town was just gone, like seriously gone, nothing but concrete slabs left behind. I have a picture somewhere of one slab that had nothing, not even debris, but a toilet on it, how the hell that toilet survived I have no idea but I got a chuckle out of it. A lot of people in lower Plaquemines parish had to go spray paint their names and addresses on their houses so the insurance company could find them because their houses, most of which were on stilts, was 100 yards or more from where they used to be. There was even this HUGE barge that got washed over one of the levees and was in the middle of one side of the highway, no clue how they managed to remove that thing.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Yeah, it's scary stuff. After Katrina I went to two towns, one in the southern little tip of Louisiana and another in Mississippi where most of the town was just gone, like seriously gone, nothing but concrete slabs left behind. I have a picture somewhere of one slab that had nothing, not even debris, but a toilet on it, how the hell that toilet survived I have no idea but I got a chuckle out of it. A lot of people in lower Plaquemines parish had to go spray paint their names and addresses on their houses so the insurance company could find them because their houses, most of which were on stilts, was 100 yards or more from where they used to be. There was even this HUGE barge that got washed over one of the levees and was in the middle of one side of the highway, no clue how they managed to remove that thing.

I was in Biloxi about a year after Katrina, still looked like a warzone in a lot of places. A lot of the people I worked with were there when it hit, had some fun stories. The beach in Biloxi was (is?) well known for having a ton of these casinos out of the water, something about them legally being able to be there rather than on land. Anyhow, all destroyed, cept one, was a big novelty pirate ship thing. Apparently more seaworthy than most thought, as Katrina hit, washed it out to sea. Floated back in a few days later intact. Yarr.

 

[BUTCH1]

By all means, feel free to PM me any questions you have. I have well over a decades experience estimating so if you have any questions about your insurance appraisal or roofing companies quote I can help with that too. IF you can, it would be a good idea to put a piece of plywood over the hole so that if it rains the water doesn't pool and break/tear your tarp. Your insurance company MIGHT pay to replace the entire roof depending on a lot of factors. Make sure you ask your adjuster what happens if they can't match the color of the shingles do to your existing ones being weathered and aged.

And yeah, it's a shame but there always seem to be a few fatalities following a big outage from people running gennies inside. I can't believe that people are still that dumb but there are always at least a few.

OK, thanks again,I have some spare plywood and a saw, should I place the plywood over the tarp or just remove the tarp completely and use a large bead of caulk on the edge of the plywood?. Oh, and what would be the best means of attachment. wood screws or just regular nails?.

 

[zinfamous]

I'm hosting my family from the Keys, their friends (who are also here), and anyone else they can vouche for.

iow, you're standing aside with absolutely no game in this, didn't go through the storm yourself, and you are trying to dis me?

Fuck off, moron. You don't know squat about this and have ZERO experience with it.

But the media lied to you!

lol--in this post you are both trying to defend your claims that this wasn't so bad, but also that you are so noble to be hosting this caravan of "vouched-for refugees" from some disaster that really wasn't so bad...but was, because it has to be otherwise you aren't noble enough.

You've taken a big shit on this thread, and until you stop ruining it, I won't stop reminding you and others of what you are posting. Your choice: noble hero of the not-so-bad fake media weather. I mean, I've lived through hurricanes and still have family in that part of the world. Don't tell me "I don't know it" you little shitburger.



Say, are you hosting anyone from Barbuda (90% destruction), St Maarten (likewise), Anguilla (hell, I still haven't heard from them)? Or they weren't deserving of fake media. Why aren't you sheltering them? Same reason Florida people aren't coming up to MD so that I can host them? Or maybe not? Oh, the weather was fake there. Not real damage. Not real people.

never mind.

Give it a rest. Go back to some thread in P&N.
admin allisolm

 

[Darwin333]

OK, thanks again,I have some spare plywood and a saw, should I place the plywood over the tarp or just remove the tarp completely and use a large bead of caulk on the edge of the plywood?. Oh, and what would be the best means of attachment. wood screws or just regular nails?.

You want the plywood under the tarp but you still want the tarp. No need to go overboard securing the plywood, a few nails would be fine but if using a cordless and screws is easier then go for it, just tack it down with one each on all 4 sides. Then place the tarp over it. The plywood is simply adding some structural support by for the waterproofing that the tarp is providing. You want the piece of plywood to be a good bit larger than the actual hole on at least two sides, preferably up and down but at least wide as the hole east and west, if you can overlap east and west too that is optimal.

BTW, what kind of nails are you using for your tarp? Are the normal nails or "simplex" roofing nails with the big ass heads? You want to use the latter if you can possibly find any.

The idea is to give the tarp a solid structure so the water keeps shedding off of it instead of being able to pool in that big depression. Water weighs quite a lot and can easily over stress your tarp so that it fails either were the water is pooling or at the fasteners, I've seen both but they both have the same consequence. Even if the tarp is pulled really tight it can happen, not trying to scare you bud just some friendly advice. I have seen people jerry-rig a mop handle from inside the house to slightly raise the tarp in the middle of the hole so that a depression can't form but I don't jerry-rig roofs so I honestly wouldn't know where to even begin.

Edit: If you have any 1Xs you can nail them down the north and south sides of the tarp for added protection against the wind. If you require this depends entirely on how long you think it will take the roofers to get out there.

 

[BUTCH1]

You want the plywood under the tarp but you still want the tarp. No need to go overboard securing the plywood, a few nails would be fine but if using a cordless and screws is easier then go for it, just tack it down with one each on all 4 sides. Then place the tarp over it. The plywood is simply adding some structural support by for the waterproofing that the tarp is providing. You want the piece of plywood to be a good bit larger than the actual hole on at least two sides, preferably up and down but at least wide as the hole east and west, if you can overlap east and west too that is optimal.

BTW, what kind of nails are you using for your tarp? Are the normal nails or "simplex" roofing nails with the big ass heads? You want to use the latter if you can possibly find any.

The idea is to give the tarp a solid structure so the water keeps shedding off of it instead of being able to pool in that big depression. Water weighs quite a lot and can easily over stress your tarp so that it fails either were the water is pooling or at the fasteners, I've seen both but they both have the same consequence. Even if the tarp is pulled really tight it can happen, not trying to scare you bud just some friendly advice. I have seen people jerry-rig a mop handle from inside the house to slightly raise the tarp in the middle of the hole so that a depression can't form but I don't jerry-rig roofs so I honestly wouldn't know where to even begin.

Edit: If you have any 1Xs you can nail them down the north and south sides of the tarp for added protection against the wind. If you require this depends entirely on how long you think it will take the roofers to get out there.

I used roofing nails for the tarp, but now I get it that the plywood will prevent a mini 'pond" from forming over the hole. pardon this ridiculous font, I'm stuck in it and any attempt to change it back to normal won't work LOL! .No, i won't be using a mop-handle method, I'm planning on covering the hole, I plan on using a thin sheet of material that Ace carries to cover the hole in the drywall in the garage where the limb poked through,

 

[Darwin333]

I used roofing nails for the tarp, but now I get it that the plywood will prevent a mini 'pond" from forming over the hole. pardon this ridiculous font, I'm stuck in it and any attempt to change it back to normal won't work LOL! .No, i won't be using a mop-handle method, I'm planning on covering the hole, I plan on using a thin sheet of material that Ace carries to cover the hole in the drywall in the garage where the limb poked through,

No worries about the font bud, just glad you understand, wasn't sure if I was properly explaining it or not. A lot of things get lost in a long drawn out text convo on a forum and it's rather time consuming to go back and see what I said earlier.

Stay dry my friend! If you have any other questions please don't hesitate to ask, I am truly more than happy to help.