Hurricane Wilma Thread

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KLin

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Oh well this blows, they never expected Wilma to weaken quite this much, so the next recon flight isn't scheduled until 2pm tomorrow(or it would be today I guess).

Did you mean strengthen?
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Oh well this blows, they never expected Wilma to weaken quite this much, so the next recon flight isn't scheduled until 2pm tomorrow(or it would be today I guess).

Did you mean strengthen?
Isn't that what I said?
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: DumbGuy
Ahhhhh crap.
Here goes my road trip to Gainesville.
More like "here goes Gainesville".
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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WTF CAT 5 ALREADY???

Well, there might be some good in this. If past experience from this season proves useful, early strengthening like this usually means the storm will weaken before it hits land. We saw it with Katrina and with Rita. A storm can only get so big before eyewall replacement cycles begin and start eating away at the strongest part of the storm.

HOWEVER...Jeff Masters' blog at wunderground.com shows that the path of Wilma takes it over VERY WARM water that does not cool down until the Keys. Katrina and Rita both passed over cooler water for a full 24 hours--which helped weaken those storms. This may not happen with Wilma, so it may not weaken significantly before landfall. Mr. Masters hasn't updated his blog yet with the Cat 5 info...I s'pose he'll awaken tomorrow and sh*t his pants if its broken a record by then.
 

diddyb

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cat 5 now with 175 mph winds and pressure of 892 mb... second lowest in atlantic ever...
 

ViRGE

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1 last recon fix tonight to come. 887 or bust!
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: UNCjigga
WTF CAT 5 ALREADY???

Well, there might be some good in this. If past experience from this season proves useful, early strengthening like this usually means the storm will weaken before it hits land. We saw it with Katrina and with Rita. A storm can only get so big before eyewall replacement cycles begin and start eating away at the strongest part of the storm.

HOWEVER...Jeff Masters' blog at wunderground.com shows that the path of Wilma takes it over VERY WARM water that does not cool down until the Keys. Katrina and Rita both passed over cooler water for a full 24 hours--which helped weaken those storms. This may not happen with Wilma, so it may not weaken significantly before landfall. Mr. Masters hasn't updated his blog yet with the Cat 5 info...I s'pose he'll awaken tomorrow and sh*t his pants if its broken a record by then.
As of now, she's forecast to encounter some shear once she gets into the Gulf, so there is a forecast weakening.

As always though, we'll see..
 

DAGTA

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Oct 9, 1999
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70mb drop in under 8 hours, increadible! Here's to hoping it weakens just as fast!
 

latino666

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I think this year tied the record for most hurricanes in a season. I think the record is 21.
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: ViRGE
887! New record!
Where is that being reported? Weather.com is still showing 892mb with their latest update.
This is from a feed from the current recon plane. It won't be reported to the media until the entire pass is over with.
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: ViRGE
887! New record!
Where is that being reported? Weather.com is still showing 892mb with their latest update.
This is from a feed from the current recon plane. It won't be reported to the media until the entire pass is over with.

Where did you get this? Just wondering, as this is rather interesting.
 

Eli

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: tasburrfoot78362
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: ViRGE
887! New record!
Where is that being reported? Weather.com is still showing 892mb with their latest update.
This is from a feed from the current recon plane. It won't be reported to the media until the entire pass is over with.

Where did you get this? Just wondering, as this is rather interesting.
I'd like to know also!
 

ViRGE

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Oct 9, 1999
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884!

693
URNT12 KNHC 190835
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 19/08:00:30Z
B. 17 deg 03 min N
082 deg 20 min W
C. 700 mb 2082 m
D. NA kt
E. NA deg nm
F. 320 deg 166 kt
G. 221 deg 003 nm
H. 884 mb
I. 10 C/ 3073 m
J. 24 C/ 3043 m
K. 10 C/ NA
L. CLOSED
M. C4
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF308 0724A WILMA OB 16
MAX FL WIND 168 KT SE QUAD 06:10:20 Z
 

ViRGE

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: tasburrfoot78362
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: ViRGE
887! New record!
Where is that being reported? Weather.com is still showing 892mb with their latest update.
This is from a feed from the current recon plane. It won't be reported to the media until the entire pass is over with.

Where did you get this? Just wondering, as this is rather interesting.
I'd like to know also!
http://twister.sbs.ohio-state.edu/text/tropical/atlantic/
URNT12
 

ViRGE

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Oct 9, 1999
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5am Update:

IN ADDITION TO THE SPECTACULAR CLOUD PATTERN OBSERVED ON SATELLITE
...AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE MEASURED 168 KNOTS AT 700 MB
AND ESTIMATED A MINIMUM PRESSURE OF 884 MB EXTRAPOLATED FROM 700MB.
UNOFFICIALLY...THE METEOROLOGIST ON BOARD THE PLANE RELIED AN
EXTRAPOLATED 881 MB PRESSURE AND MEASURED 884 MB WITH A DROPSONDE.
THIS IS ALL IN ASSOCIATION WITH A VERY SMALL EYE THAT HAS BEEN
OSCILLATING BETWEEN 2 AND 4 N MI DURING EYE PENETRATIONS. THIS IS
PROBABLY THE LOWEST MINIMUM PRESSURE EVER OBSERVED IN THE ATLANTIC
BASIN AND IS FOLLOWED BY THE 888 MB MINIMUM PRESSURE ASSOCIATED
WITH HURRICANE GILBERT IN 1988. HOWEVER...ONE MUST BE VERY CAREFUL
BEFORE IT IS DECLARED A RECORD MINIMUM PRESSURE UNTIL A FULL AND
DETAILED CALIBRATION OF THE INSTRUMENTS AND CALCULATIONS IS
PERFORMED. SO PLEASE DO NOT JUMP INTO CONCLUSIONS YET...BE PATIENT.

WILMA IS A CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE THAT IS MOVING OVER
VERY WARM WATERS...TYPICAL OF THE NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA...AND
WITHIN AN ENVIRONMENT OF LIGHT SHEAR. HOWEVER...DESPITE THE
FAVORABLE LARGE SCALE ENVIRONMENT...WILMA IS NEAR ITS MAXIMUM
POTENTIAL INTENSITY AND FURTHER STRENGTHENING IS NOT ANTICIPATED.
MOST LIKELY...THE SMALL EYE WILL COLLAPSE FOLLOWED BY SLIGHT
WEAKENING OR SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN INTENSITY. EYEWALL REPLACEMENT
CYCLES WILL LIKELY CONTROL THE INTENSITY FOR THE NEXT 2 TO 3 DAYS
WHILE THE HURRICANE IS OVER THE NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA.
THEREAFTER...ONCE WILMA REACHES THE SOUTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO AND
ENCOUNTERS THE WESTERLIES AND HIGH SHEAR...WEAKENING SHOULD BEGIN.

THE HURRICANE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST OR 295 DEGREES AT
7 KNOTS. IT SEEMS THAT DATA FROM THE HIGH ALTITUDE NOAA JET
INGESTED BY MODELS CAUSED THE TRACK GUIDANCE ENVELOPE TO SHIFT
SLIGHTLY WESTWARD FOR THE 2 TO 3 DAY PERIOD. HOWEVER...NO CHANGE IN
TRACK IS INDICATED OVER THE GULF OF MEXICO AND GUIDANCE CONTINUES
TO TURN WILMA SHARPLY TO THE NORTHEAST OVER FLORIDA. BASED ON THE
LATEST GUIDANCE...THE OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST HAS BEEN SHIFTED
SLIGHTLY WESTWARD BUT IS KEPT ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE ENVELOPE.
THIS IN CASE THE TRACK GUIDANCE SHIFTS BACK TO THE EAST IN THE NEXT
RUN.

IN SUMMARY...THE OFFICIAL FORECAST BRINGS THE CORE OF THIS
CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE NORTHWARD THROUGH THE YUCATAN CHANNEL AND
THEN SHARPLY TURNS A WEAKER HURRICANE TO THE NORTHEAST TOWARD
FLORIDA WITH AN INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED. NO CHANGE IN WARNINGS
OR WATCHES IS REQUIRED AT THIS TIME.

FORECASTER AVILA
 

ViRGE

Elite Member, Moderator Emeritus
Oct 9, 1999
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Interesting, tiny wind field. It may not strengthen any more, but the windfield is going to likely grow by leaps and bounds over the next couple of eyewall cycles.
 

Eli

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Interesting, tiny wind field. It may not strengthen any more, but the windfield is going to likely grow by leaps and bounds over the next couple of eyewall cycles.
Yeah, really tiny.. pretty interesting.

 

ViRGE

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Interesting, tiny wind field. It may not strengthen any more, but the windfield is going to likely grow by leaps and bounds over the next couple of eyewall cycles.
Yeah, really tiny.. pretty interesting.
Frankly, it's more like madness. It's late Ocotober, this ****** shouldn't be happening.
 

Eli

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Interesting, tiny wind field. It may not strengthen any more, but the windfield is going to likely grow by leaps and bounds over the next couple of eyewall cycles.
Yeah, really tiny.. pretty interesting.
Frankly, it's more like madness. It's late Ocotober, this ****** shouldn't be happening.
Really? Doesen't hurricane season last well into November?
 
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