Hurricane Wilma Thread

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dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: imtim83
Wilma looks like she could be stalled now right off the shore

She hasn't made landfall on Mexico yet totally. A good 60 to 70% of her is in the warm water still and will easily keep her at least a Cat. 3 and maybe let her even hold her own at a steady Cat. 4.

Not good.
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it is weaking. even if the entire eye is not over land, part of it is, and the entire area of circulation is interacting with land. on the latest visisble infrared you can see it is weaking, the areas of deep red and oranges is shrinking on the western area if circulation. the water temps off of florida are about 80-83f right now. if it moves fast enough with the trough that is expected to pick it up, it simply may not have the time to regenerate

OK, the core has now reached the Gulf.

It lost a lot of forward momemtum and is now just starting lose the battle with the westerlies.

The Jet stream appaers to be finally starting to clean house over the continental U.S.

Now a line in the sand has been drawn.

If the core manages to re-spin down, Florida will be facing another Charlie or even an Andrew from the west.

If the core gets stretched it will just be a very big rain event.

The next 12 hrs will determine it's fate.

In the meantime, FEMA folks here in Louisiana have been told to start driving to staging areas set up for Florida as a FEMA friend of mine just told me.


 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
If the core manages to re-spin down, Florida will be facing another Charlie or even an Andrew from the west.
They're not going to be facing an Andrew, Wilma's been over land too long, she's not going to make it to Florida as a major hurricane, let alone a Super Saiyan 5.

On related news, stick around for the 5pm update in an hour where we'll be celebrating the formation of TS Alpha.
 

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HURRICANE WILMA ADVISORY NUMBER 30
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
4 PM CDT SAT OCT 22 2005

...WILMA ABOUT TO EMERGE OFF THE NORTHEASTERN COAST OF YUCATAN...
...NEW WATCHES ISSUED FOR THE FLORIDA PENINSULA...

AT 5 PM EDT...2100Z...A HURRICANE WATCH HAS BEEN ISSUED ALONG THE
WEST COAST OF FLORIDA FROM LONGBOAT KEY SOUTHWARD...AND ALONG THE
EAST COAST OF FLORIDA FROM TITUSVILLE SOUTHWARD.

A HURRICANE WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR ALL OF THE FLORIDA KEYS...
INCLUDING THE DRY TORTUGAS AND FLORIDA BAY.

AT 5 PM EDT...A TROPICAL STORM WATCH HAS BEEN ISSUED ALONG THE WEST
COAST OF FLORIDA FROM NORTH OF LONGBOAT KEY NORTHWARD TO
STEINHATCHEE RIVER... AND ALONG THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA FROM
NORTH OF TITUSVILLE NORTHWARD TO FERNANDINA BEACH.

A HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM SAN FELIPE TO CHETUMAL ON
THE YUCATAN PENINSULA...INCLUDING COZUMEL AND THE NEARBY ISLANDS.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH REMAIN IN EFFECT FROM
WEST OF SAN FELIPE TO CELESTUN.

AT 5 PM EDT...THE GOVERNMENT OF CUBA HAS ISSUED A HURRICANE WARNING
FOR THE PROVINCES OF CIUDAD DE LA HABANA...LA HABANA...AND PINAR
DEL RIO. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE ISLE OF
YOUTH. A HURRICANE WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE PROVINCE OF
MATANZAS.

A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED
WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. PREPARATIONS TO
PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION. A
HURRICANE WATCH MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN
THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE
EXPECTED WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. A
TROPICAL STORM WATCH MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE
POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 4 PM CDT...2100Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE WILMA WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 21.4 NORTH... LONGITUDE 87.1 WEST... ABOUT 25 MILES... 40
KM NORTHWEST OF CANCUN MEXICO... OR ABOUT 405 MILES... 650 KM...
WEST-SOUTHWEST OF KEY WEST FLORIDA.

WILMA IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH NEAR 2 MPH... 4 KM/HR. A GRADUAL
TURN TOWARD THE NORTHEAST OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO IS
EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 100 MPH...160 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. WILMA IS A CATEGORY TWO HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON
SCALE. SOME STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24
HOURS...AND WILMA COULD REGAIN CATEGORY THREE STATUS DURING THE
NEXT 24 HOURS.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 85 MILES...140 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 200 MILES...325 KM.

THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE REPORTED BY A NOAA HURRICANE
HUNTER AIRCRAFT WAS 957 MB...28.26 INCHES.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 7 TO 11 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS... ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS BATTERING WAVES... WILL
CONTINUE NEAR AND TO THE NORTH OF THE EYE ALONG ON THE NORTHEASTERN
YUCATAN PENINSULA.

WILMA IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE ADDITIONAL RAINFALL ACCUMULATIONS OF 10
TO 20 INCHES THROUGH SUNDAY ACROSS PORTIONS OF WESTERN CUBA AND THE
YUCATAN PENINSULA... WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM STORM TOTAL AMOUNTS
APPROACHING 50 INCHES. RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN FLORIDA INCLUDING
THE KEYS THROUGH TUESDAY IS EXPECTED TO BE 4 TO 8 INCHES... WITH
ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 12 INCHES POSSIBLE.

LARGE SWELLS GENERATED BY WILMA HAVE PROPAGATED WELL INTO THE
EASTERN GULF OF MEXICO. THESE SWELLS WILL LIKELY AFFECT PORTIONS
OF THE NORTHERN GULF COAST TONIGHT AND SUNDAY.

ISOLATED TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE OVER THE FLORIDA PENINSULA AND THE
FLORIDA KEYS DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

REPEATING THE 4 PM CDT POSITION...21.4 N... 87.1 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH NEAR 2 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS...100 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 957 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER AT 7 PM CDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 10 PM
CDT.

FORECASTER KNABB


$$WWWW


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ViRGE

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And we now officially have Tropical Storm Alpha, the 22nd storm of the season and the first time we have ever blown through the entire list of names. Coencidentally, it's now the most active season on record.
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
And we now officially have Tropical Storm Alpha, the 22nd storm of the season and the first time we have ever blown through the entire list of names. Coencidentally, it's now the most active season on record.

this year hasn't been as crazy for us in central florida as last year was. but if this his how the tropical season is going to be every year for the forseeable future, I'm gonna commission that my next house to be built underground
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: ViRGE
And we now officially have Tropical Storm Alpha, the 22nd storm of the season and the first time we have ever blown through the entire list of names. Coencidentally, it's now the most active season on record.

this year hasn't been as crazy for us in central florida as last year was. but if this his how the tropical season is going to be every year for the forseeable future, I'm gonna commission that my next house to be built underground
That'll work wonders when it floods.
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: ViRGE
And we now officially have Tropical Storm Alpha, the 22nd storm of the season and the first time we have ever blown through the entire list of names. Coencidentally, it's now the most active season on record.

this year hasn't been as crazy for us in central florida as last year was. but if this his how the tropical season is going to be every year for the forseeable future, I'm gonna commission that my next house to be built underground
That'll work wonders when it floods.

nah, they'd have to build something to prevent that. I was thinking about that too, or maybe build a big dome around my house. My house is all cinder block, but I have tons ot trees around my house. no chance it will blow away, but darn trees can sure fall onto it
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: ricknnah, they'd have to build something to prevent that. I was thinking about that too, or maybe build a big dome around my house. My house is all cinder block, but I have tons ot trees around my house. no chance it will blow away, but darn trees can sure fall onto it

Parents live in Windermere.
Last year, a large tree uprooted and took out a corner of their house.
The trunk was a good 5 meters away from the foundation.
Had the tree fallen the other way, it would have taken out the fromt half easily.

2 meter radius trees carry an allful lot of wallop when they decide to move along.

 

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Below are some after math images from the link in Cancun I previously provided.

Structurals surround the poster condo seems to be standing, but the landscape and facade of buildings are torn off and strew all over, and there are some signs of erosion.

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iamwiz82

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From what I have read on a couple of Cancun message boards:

Cozumel 2, one of 2 car ferries, ran aground
The Hyatt in Cancun suffered "extensive structural damage"
4-5 Feet of water in the streets of Cozumel, but it's receeding, someone said that their street went down by 5 inches already.
 

ViRGE

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She's reached Super Saiyan 3 again. Flordia's going to be in for some hurt.
 

EagleKeeper

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In at Naples - Out at Ft Pierce.

Everglades are going to get belted again.

At least it looks like it will be staying south of the I4 corridor and north of S Florida.
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: AbsolutZero
She's reached Super Saiyan 3 again. Flordia's going to be in for some hurt.

Yep. 115MPH, 957MB. So much for the shear and my prediction.

11PM Advisory (34th advisory on Wilma so far)

The areas east of Marco Island (south of Naples) could be heavily damaged. Luckily most of it is marshland.

Google map
It's a large storm with a large eye, I fear the damage may not be limited to just marshland.
 

Eli

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At least she's moving at some 22mph... will make the pain quick, at least.
 

ViRGE

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Another post from Mill, though it's a bit old at this point(3:30am):
Unfortunately it looks like the worst case scenario is about to occur.
Instead of being a weakening Cat 3 storm heading into Florida, Wilma has
become a strengthening Cat 4 storm very similar to Charley, yet with a
much larger wind field. I don't know the veracity of this, but I heard
that only about 20% of Key West residents evacuated, and that
evacuations in most places weren't taken seriously. That's hard to
believe after what happened with Katrina, but I've seen some reports of
this floating around the net.

Winds are 135 knots at Flight Level which equates to about 140mph at the
surface. This is the WORST thing that could have happened, because
landfall is imminent in the next 6 hours. Katrina, Rita, and other
storms didn't cause as much *extreme* wind damage because the core was
becoming unwound and the energy was dissipating over a more broad area.
This is similar to what Charley did, and we all know what happened to
Port Charlotte and Punta Gorda.

The satellite shows extreme deepening of the eye wall, which leads me to
believe it is in a completely strengthening stage. I don't believe there
is time for an ERC to weaken it, either. Pressure is down to 952mb.
We were wrong, it is apparent it recovered much more than the Mets or
others thought, and it did it at the worst time. It is always better for
there to be a weakening storm at landfall -- regardless of what people
say about it "spreading the winds out." There's no doubt that once a
landfall is made a Hurricane does that ANYWAY. Florida is going to get
it on both coasts, but the amount of damage and people affected depends
on the track. If it tracks more over population centers we could be
dealing with major power outages and damage again.

So far the models aren't recurving it into New England again, but that's
based on data before landfall. Who knows what interaction with land will
do, or what the steering currents and systems over the CONUS will effect
the Storm. Bad situation for those folks, I was really hoping it was
going to make landfall as a minimal 3. My brother lives in Orlando, so
they are hoping it stays to the south when it crosses the State.
 

Mill

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The NHC said the 135 knot wind was due to certain features of the eye wall, and so they said it wasn't accurate for landfalling windspeed. There were later winds measured at 126 knots, but they never mentioned them. It was an extremely strong Cat 3 at landfall, and I doubt they will do a post-upgrade on it due to the 126 knot measurement.

Hey Dave, still think it is going to hit the Central Gulf Coast?
 
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