Even with lower gas prices I spent $50 refilling an SUV tank the other day.
And it went something like...230 miles since the last fillup.
Ouch!
And it went something like...230 miles since the last fillup.
Ouch!
Does not compute.
^ Flat, level ground
EDIT: Don't mind that I didn't have my seatbelt on ^^
You should like it for what it is - a phenomenal commuter car that you literally can't beat even ~15 years later. I'm actually a HUGE fan of first gen insights; you get a ton of technology, unbeatable milage and manual transmission (yay!) for under $5K. Especially with the civic batt pack swaps now, the car is freaking awesome.
If I'm ever in a situation where I have to commute long distance, I will for sure get one*. It's no sports car though, even the tires are designed to minimize grip
*http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/4726826690.html this one I've had my eyes on for a while
Honestly those sorta pics don't really convince anyone ("I get 100mpg if I drive 45mph on the highway, push the car to get it rolling to "hypermile" and amputated both my legs to save on weight"). If you're getting passed by semis, you're on the loony side that discussion and the your data point is about as relevant as someone saying he got 500mpg making that trip on a self propelled gas lawnmower.
I just drove 350 miles yesterday and my speed rarely dropped under 85mph and got 21.5 miles to gallon in 4600lb/450hp awd car. What would I be looking at in a Prius/ insight driving in the same fashion?
I don't think a Prius or Insight could get up to 85mph or at least there isn't a road long enough in the US for them to do so
I don't think a Prius or Insight could get up to 85mph or at least there isn't a road long enough in the US for them to do so
I can beat most normal cars off the line in the volt and we avg. More than 100 mpg. Plus, it drives much better than most of the econo boxes and hybrids out there.I posted in jest more than anything else I like the Prius
I don't think a Prius or Insight could get up to 85mph or at least there isn't a road long enough in the US for them to do so
I just drove 350 miles yesterday and my speed rarely dropped under 85mph and got 21.5 miles to gallon in 4600lb/450hp awd car. What would I be looking at in a Prius/ insight driving in the same fashion?
There are going to be better deals on electrics and hybrids, because carmakers need to meet CAFE standards. So I am still inclined to get one for next car.
Honestly those sorta pics don't really convince anyone ("I get 100mpg if I drive 45mph on the highway, push the car to get it rolling to "hypermile" and amputated both my legs to save on weight"). If you're getting passed by semis, you're on the loony side that discussion and the your data point is about as relevant as someone saying he got 500mpg making that trip on a self propelled gas lawnmower.
I just drove 350 miles yesterday and my speed rarely dropped under 85mph and got 21.5 miles to gallon in 4600lb/450hp awd car. What would I be looking at in a Prius/ insight driving in the same fashion?
So true. I love driving a big, heavy safe and powerful 4-door sedan without any thoughts of being miserly, passing semis uphill, enjoying having power under my foot and still get 32 mpg on the highway, 26 city. And if there's a huge blast of wind, I'm not hanging onto the wheel for dear life. My tank is 19 gallons, too, so it's not like I have to put gas in my car more than a couple times a month, if that. I had no problem with gas prices before they started falling. Right now is just bonus time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90FFuLUWT7g
Prius' being slow and gay is way WAYY exaggerated. Neither gay nor slow. It's basically a fuel efficient mini minivan. 110HP is way WAY more than enough and don't forget that before the 1990s, half the cars were less than 100hp.
Any vehicle that goes 0-60 in the 10 second ballpark is slow by most standards. It's not like people who buy a Prius are buying it for it's performance. If they are - lol.
That video is painful to watch. It takes 26 seconds for them to accelerate from 50 mph (after they are on the interstate and flooring it at 18 sec through the video) to hit 100 mph (44 sec through the video).
Here is a video of a base v6 2015 mustang doing a 0-100 mph run in ~16 seconds (15 to 31 seconds video time): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlwviwoxUNI
For shits and giggles a 2013 camry with an intake doing it in ~16 sec too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrEc-K42f1c
Seriously... how do you merge into 85mph traffic in the prius? Totally awesome MPG and reasonable acceleration for stop and go traffic if it fits your driving style though.
Just think of the prius performance like that of a 10-20 year old vehicle... Just because the performance is there in new vehicles, doesn't mean it's required. The technology improvements of the last 40 years have been put towards improving performance while maintaining piss poor fuel economy instead of improving performance and improving fuel economy. Prius basically sets a performance floor then improves the fuel economy on it.
0-60 in 10s is acceptable acceleration by most standards. A Hummer H2 is 0-60 in 11s. Most cars on the road have more performance than they know what to do with which is why they waste so much fuel. A car that does 0-60 in 8s was FAST by 90s standards but now it's "slow"... It's a stupid arms race of performance for no other reason than the occasional shits and giggles.
Comparing a 90s corvette to a Prius just goes to show that you don't seem to understand how to compare vehicles. Why not compare an 80s corvette to a Prius? Or really compare an I4 90s Accord/Camry with a Prius as that's much closer with its actual performance. Also your justification for a 0-60 better than 8s is the fact that modern V6 camry and Accords are faster that? So when those cars get down to 0-60 of less than 4 seconds, will your new minimum be 4 seconds? 0-60 in 10 seconds is plenty of speed to get any asshole wrapped around a tree in a hurry. Nobody saying it's a dragster but it's plenty fast and this whole "slow" thing is so relative that it's frustrating to see that people can't see how the goal posts of performance have continually moved forward for decades. I mean how old are you to even make a declaration that a vehicle needs a 0-60 time of 8 seconds or less? Sounds like someone who never owned a midrange vehicle made in the 90s or earlier."Fast" compared to what? Late 80s early 90s corvettes were well under 6 seconds. Mustangs / Camaro's / Firebirds from the same era were between 6 and 7. The Prius was "average" at best compared to standards from 25 years ago. Fast? A 1992 gen 1 viper was "fast" at 4.5 seconds to 60. It is fast compared to that era of Geo Metro... but then again... it really doesn't improve on the fuel economy of that era Metro...
I certainly don't think that a car needs to have a sub 4 second 0-60 time for normal driving. Heck as cars get <5 seconds... and especially under <4 seconds... 0-60 times become more and more meaningless as a benchmark because almost all of those cars are traction limited on street tires and 50-150 times, quarter mile, standing mile, etc... are probably more relevant. That being said, that is not what we are talking about here. I do think 0-60 is relevant for a daily driver passenger car (especially towards the slower side of things). There is a huge difference between 0-60 in 6 seconds, 8 seconds, and 10 seconds.
8 seconds 0-60 is probably the minimum that i would personally be willing to accept regardless of the type of vehicle (truck/car/etc...) that I was driving. Considering that cars like the v6 camry and accord do sub 6 second 0-60 runs, and that even economical vehicles like the camry or accord hybrid can hit 60 in under 8 seconds... I don't know how you don't think the prius is slow. That doesn't mean it's not a good car... it's just slow.
I'm sorry for taking this thread VERY far off topic. The Prius is a good, economical car. It just makes me laugh when people (usually owners) deny that it's slow. You bought a (or are a fan of the) Prius, you don't have to defend it and pretend that it's a fast car. No one expects it to be a fast car. It's a car with great fuel mileage - and that's cool in it's own right. It's slower than a mid 90s minivan.... and would have a hard time outrunning a Vespa.
Maybe the guy is putting himself into situations where if his car isn't faster than a 0-60 of 8s, he would be in trouble which means he's a terrible driver.I have an 01 insight and it's plenty quick enough. 0-30 is as good as most cars around and i took it 105 on a freeway once. It had more to go.
I can't imagine the driving environment that requires everyone to do 0-60 in 6 seconds etc. Sounds stressful.
"Fast" compared to what? Late 80s early 90s corvettes were well under 6 seconds. Mustangs / Camaro's / Firebirds from the same era were between 6 and 7. The Prius was "average" at best compared to standards from 25 years ago. Fast? A 1992 gen 1 viper was "fast" at 4.5 seconds to 60. It is fast compared to that era of Geo Metro... but then again... it really doesn't improve on the fuel economy of that era Metro...
I certainly don't think that a car needs to have a sub 4 second 0-60 time for normal driving. Heck as cars get <5 seconds... and especially under <4 seconds... 0-60 times become more and more meaningless as a benchmark because almost all of those cars are traction limited on street tires and 50-150 times, quarter mile, standing mile, etc... are probably more relevant. That being said, that is not what we are talking about here. I do think 0-60 is relevant for a daily driver passenger car (especially towards the slower side of things). There is a huge difference between 0-60 in 6 seconds, 8 seconds, and 10 seconds.
8 seconds 0-60 is probably the minimum that i would personally be willing to accept regardless of the type of vehicle (truck/car/etc...) that I was driving. Considering that cars like the v6 camry and accord do sub 6 second 0-60 runs, and that even economical vehicles like the camry or accord hybrid can hit 60 in under 8 seconds... I don't know how you don't think the prius is slow. That doesn't mean it's not a good car... it's just slow.
I'm sorry for taking this thread VERY far off topic. The Prius is a good, economical car. It just makes me laugh when people (usually owners) deny that it's slow. You bought a (or are a fan of the) Prius, you don't have to defend it and pretend that it's a fast car. No one expects it to be a fast car. It's a car with great fuel mileage - and that's cool in it's own right. It's slower than a mid 90s minivan.... and would have a hard time outrunning a Vespa.